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Senate panel defies Bush on terror
Associated Press ^ | ANNE PLUMMER FLAHERTY

Posted on 09/14/2006 12:57:54 PM PDT by 300magnum

WASHINGTON - A rebellious Senate committee defied President Bush on Thursday and approved terror-detainee legislation he has vowed to block, deepening Republican conflict over a key issue in the middle of congressional campaigns.

Sen. John Warner (news, bio, voting record), R-Va., chairman of the Armed Services Committee, pushed the measure through his panel by a 15-9 vote, with Warner and two other GOP lawmakers joining Democrats. The tally set the stage for a showdown on the Senate floor as early as next week.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: egobeforecountry; goobergraham; mccain; mclaim; osamahasrights; waronterror; weasel; wot
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To: Mo1
"I am so angry about this I can't stop shaking"

Me Too. I'm calling the RNC now. It's time they heard from us.

101 posted on 09/14/2006 1:46:08 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: MNJohnnie
The problem with that is that with a close majority, McCain and Graham are quite likely to switch parties, giving the Rats the majority.

I despise them. Absolutely despise them.

102 posted on 09/14/2006 1:46:51 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look over Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: onyx

"Susan is stupid, but the other three KNOW better."

You and "Susan" in the same PTA? What makes this traitorous bitch any different than the others? She's been RINOing her way through congress for years.


103 posted on 09/14/2006 1:47:36 PM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: Steel Wolf

I very much appreciate that information. Thanks.


104 posted on 09/14/2006 1:48:04 PM PDT by Bahbah (Shalit, Goldwasser and Regev, we are praying for you)
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To: new yorker 77

"I do not want other GOP members punished for Graham's actions."

Good point. Perhaps a smart mail campaign (action we could take) would be to address all of the other Republican Senators and point out they will go down due to Graham's actions.


105 posted on 09/14/2006 1:48:09 PM PDT by debg
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To: AmeriBrit

In his reality --- he truly thinks he's doing the right thing. He is in total denial. He was tortured and he broke. Thus, torture is effective, but POTUS is not asking for North Vietnam circa '60-'70's styles of torture.




106 posted on 09/14/2006 1:48:17 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: A Citizen Reporter
Boy am I angry!! What's the RNC phone number? Who else can I call?

I am calling the White House tomorrow and will tell them to hang tough. Where's the number for that weasel Colin Powell? I want to make sure his speaking engagements dry up!!

107 posted on 09/14/2006 1:48:44 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look over Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: 300magnum

WHAT IF.....these bozos are merely playing to the anti-Bush wing of the Republican base? (Irregardless of the fact that they are going in the wrong philosophical direction) It's just a thought.


108 posted on 09/14/2006 1:48:55 PM PDT by Niteranger68 (I gigged your peace frog.)
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To: hipaatwo

I saw quite a bit of Tony's press conf today..and some of the Senate coverage..and am unable to adequately express my rage.


109 posted on 09/14/2006 1:49:08 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-prayers for the kidnapped Israeli Soldiers)
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To: new yorker 77
All this is fine and dandy until an attack on D.C. or Seattle or some other US city happens and kills thousands of Americans and these men will have hell to pay. They are all misguided fools or guilty of criminal conspiracy.
110 posted on 09/14/2006 1:49:54 PM PDT by Bombard
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To: toddlintown
You and "Susan" in the same PTA? What makes this traitorous bitch any different than the others?

The three men all have military experience. Susan does not, smart ass.

111 posted on 09/14/2006 1:50:05 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: Dog

THAT is a perfect letter.


112 posted on 09/14/2006 1:50:24 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-prayers for the kidnapped Israeli Soldiers)
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To: Dog

What has happened to him the last few years? He was not like this a decade or so ago.


113 posted on 09/14/2006 1:50:49 PM PDT by biff
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To: MNJohnnie

What the enemy does isn't the point. What makes the enemy the enemy is his total disregard for law, order and humanity. What makes us better than the enemy is our respect for all three of those things. I'm not a great admirer of McCain, but I see where he's coming from. The aim of these swine is to make us abandon our values and fight in the sewers with them. They are prepared to die in order to do so.

They despise the fact that people can exist in a world without fear, because a world without fear is difficult for maniacs like the islamists to control. So they want to make us fear them. And judging by posts in this thread ('They are going to kill us all!!!!!') it sounds like we're handing them victory on a silver platter. They are using fear to make us abandon the only principles that make us greater than they.

Besides, we aren't dealing with Nazi Germany. We aren't dealing with Imperial Japan. We're dealing with, at most, a country with a GDP that's barely a 'third of Rumsfeld's defence budget' (George Will on Iran) and at least a few hormonal, sex-starved jihadists with a God complex. These people are not going to 'kill us all'. We have nothing to fear from these shiesters, because they cannot defeat our faith and decency with no amount of bombs uless we sacrifice it willingly.

The worry that the likes of McCain and myself have with the use of torture has nothing to do with being nice to the wee terrorist. It's about being sure that the federal government (you know, that establishment that Republicans used to be justifiably wary of) can't abuse it. That ten years down the line we don't have to worry about a Demcorat president rounding up anti-gay marriage protesters because they pose a threat to national security.

We don't need torture to beat these dick-heads. We just need patience, tenacity, and a realisation that these people don't amount to a hill of ants compared to what the US has conquered in the past. Fear? I fear nothing from these swine.


114 posted on 09/14/2006 1:51:02 PM PDT by Incitatus
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To: Miss Marple

Call Senator Grahams office..


115 posted on 09/14/2006 1:51:21 PM PDT by Dog (just doing the job that Mexico couldn't/wouldn't do.)
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To: MNJohnnie
My understanding of "the Powell constituency" of the Republican Party is that they truly mean well but unfortunately we are dealing with heavily armed lunatics, not an enemy prone to diplomatic wine and cheese talks.

Our biggest weakness is desiring and wishing for peace. What works is actually using the heaviest force (Within reason) available and establishing peace.

The Powell crowd thinks a little force, a lot of talk and just being nice will ensure peace. Recorded history has always proved the Powells of the world wrong.
116 posted on 09/14/2006 1:51:41 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: A Citizen Reporter
Me Too. I'm calling the RNC now. It's time they heard from us.

What is their phone number???

I have tried to be patient with them .. but this is it .. I've had it

117 posted on 09/14/2006 1:51:53 PM PDT by Mo1 (Think about it .. A Speaker Nancy Pelosi could be 2 seats away from being President)
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To: Miss Marple

I just called and had to leave a message, the number is 202 863-8500 for the RNC. I think the telephone line was smokin' I was so angry.


118 posted on 09/14/2006 1:52:41 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: RacerF150

That anti-Bush wing of the Republican base isn't as large as you might think. Bush has been polling at an 87% approval rating with Republicans. So if they are shooting for 13% of Republicans, good luck to them.


119 posted on 09/14/2006 1:53:44 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look over Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Mo1

Republican National Committee

310 First Street, SE | Washington, D.C. 20003

p: 202.863.8500 | f: 202.863.8820 | e: info@gop.com


120 posted on 09/14/2006 1:53:52 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-prayers for the kidnapped Israeli Soldiers)
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