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Expert: No peace with Muslims, ever
Ynetnews.com ^ | Published: 09.14.06, 16:38 | Yaakov Lappin

Posted on 09/14/2006 10:47:57 AM PDT by x_plus_one

Professor Moshe Sharon tells counter-terrorism conference Iran's regime is seeking Armageddon, says no peace ever possible with Muslim world

The Iranian government is seeking nuclear weapons in order to bring about an apocalypse, Professor Moshe Sharon, a professor of Islamic studies from the Hebrew University, told the annual conference at the Counter-Terrorism Institute in Herzliya Thursday.

Iranian president says nuclear standoff with West can be resolved peacefully; adds: ‘there is no need for UN sanctions against his country; US should moderate its language’

Sharon said there was "no possibility of peace between Israel and the Palestinians whatsoever, for ever," since the Arab and Islamic world viewed the establishment of Israel as a "reversal of history," and would never accept Israel .

He described peace agreements with Arab Muslim states as "pieces of paper, parts of tactics, strategies," adding that they have "no meaning."

"The root of the problem between us and the Arab world is Islam. Islam is not only a religion. It is a culture, politics… a state, Islam is everything. It has been like this, and it will be like this for the foreseeable future," Sharon said.

"Islam is a messianic religion… from the very beginning, it talked about the end of the world," Sharon said. In Islam, "Allah is the king of the end of days," Sharon explained, before addressing the Shiite Islam guiding Iran .

According to Sharon, the Iranian regime genuinely believes that the Shiite messiah, the twelfth Imam (also known as the Mahdi), "is here. And he will come. And first, he will establish the Shiite house of Ali. This is a time of messianic expectation."

"What moves today the Iranian government, prime minister, is first and foremost the wish to bring about the twelfth Imam." The power of the ayatollahs in Iran came from the grassroots and popular belief that they can "contact the Mahdi. Everybody believes," Sharon said.

'Nuclear weapons for apocalypse'

"How will they bring him? By an apocalypse. He (the Mahdi) needs a war. He cannot come into this world without an Armageddon. He wants an Armageddon. The earlier we understand, the better. Ahmadinejad wants nuclear weapons for this," Sharon declared.

Israel was a side issue for Iran, the professor said, adding that Iran was using Israel as a means "to enter the Islamic world" and dominate it. "But they cannot bluff the Saudis, the Wahabbis… the Shiite are hated by the Sunnis. The Saudis are far more apprehensive of nuclear weapons in the hands of Iran than Israel," he said.

Speaking to Ynetnews about the possibility of a military conflict with Iran, Sharon said: "The only way to avoid military confrontation with Iran is to leave this military confrontation to powers bigger than Israel."

"I'm not so sure that the business with Iran will be finished without confrontation, but it's not an Israeli business," he added.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: bombs; islam; israel; knowislamnopeace; muslims; nuclear; peace; religionofpeace; trop; war; wot
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The longer they wait the more likely that Israel is doomed.
1 posted on 09/14/2006 10:47:58 AM PDT by x_plus_one
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"The root of the problem between us and the Arab world is Islam. Islam is not only, a religion.

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There. Fixed it.

2 posted on 09/14/2006 10:51:40 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: x_plus_one

Finally a realistic assessment of what we face. I wish that
everyone in our government understood this.


3 posted on 09/14/2006 10:55:37 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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Much better. Yes. I believe that Armageddon was what this Islamaterroristevilwhack said he wanted. How you gonna resolve that with 'diplomacy' KOFI?


4 posted on 09/14/2006 10:57:28 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: x_plus_one
"The root of the problem between us and the Arab world is Islam. Islam is not only a religion. It is a culture, politics… a state, Islam is everything. It has been like this, and it will be like this for the foreseeable future," Sharon said.

"Islam is a messianic religion… from the very beginning, it talked about the end of the world," Sharon said. In Islam, "Allah is the king of the end of days," Sharon explained, before addressing the Shiite Islam guiding Iran.

Yep. And it's a cult.

And not just Israel though they may be 1st on the list.

5 posted on 09/14/2006 10:57:52 AM PDT by b4its2late (I'm not insensitive, I just don't care.)
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To: x_plus_one
The longer they wait the more likely that Israel is doomed.

Israel is likely to wait until just before Iran gets its nukes before acting...largely because the US and Europe will pressure her.But she will act,and act *forcefully* when they think that Iran's close to its goal.

They will tell us...and Europe..."either you act,or we will".

6 posted on 09/14/2006 11:01:17 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("An empty limousine pulled up and Hillary Clinton got out")
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no peace ever possible with Muslim world

History would seem to bear this out.

7 posted on 09/14/2006 11:02:33 AM PDT by IronJack (ALL)
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To: beethovenfan

I saw on another thread a picture of a nuke going off with the caption:

"If Iran wants Nuclear Weapons so bad, why don't we give them some?"

Won't take too much more for it to work for me...


8 posted on 09/14/2006 11:03:43 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat [This is some nasty...])
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To: GOP Poet
Kofi...Kofi...Kofi...Anyone?


9 posted on 09/14/2006 11:05:22 AM PDT by NonLinear (He's dead, Jim)
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To: b4its2late

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

1 John 2:22


10 posted on 09/14/2006 11:06:37 AM PDT by EBH (All great truths begin as blasphemies. GB Shaw)
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This article is absolutely dead on right. There is no possibility of peace with the Muslim World and if you removed all of Israel to Arizona and got all the US troops out of the Middle East, they will come after you with increased fervour.

Islam controls everything about a true believer's life and their instructions are clear: convert everyone on earth or kill the ones that don't. It is that cut and dry with no nuances.
11 posted on 09/14/2006 11:30:59 AM PDT by Maneesh (A non-hyphenated American.)
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Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

This should be plastered on billboards across the north and south american continent. Someone with deep pockets should put it next door to every mosque and fight the ACLU until the end of time....

12 posted on 09/14/2006 11:32:35 AM PDT by x_plus_one (Muslim immigration breaks democracy into a self-defeating system .)
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To: EBH

Yep.


13 posted on 09/14/2006 11:36:49 AM PDT by b4its2late (I'm not insensitive, I just don't care.)
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If the arabs laid down their weapons tomorrow, there would be peace in the middle east. If the Israelis laid down their weapons tomorrow, Israel would cease to exist.
15 posted on 09/14/2006 11:40:57 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Maneesh

I got reported by the bigot police yesterday for saying that Muslim's wanted to take over the world and kill all of us who did not convert.

Scary to me that there are those on FR that would stand up for Islam.

I repeat there are no good Muslim's.


16 posted on 09/14/2006 11:44:10 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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"Sharon said there was "no possibility of peace between Israel and the Palestinians whatsoever, for ever," since the Arab and Islamic world viewed the establishment of Israel as a "reversal of history," and would never accept Israel ."


Articles and postings like this are such an important part of getting out a message that a lot of people seem unwilling or unable to accept. The first priorty of Islam today is the destruction of Israel. When and if that is accomplished, they'll turn their main focus to the rest of the non-Islamic world. Of course, efforts are being made in this area already. Don't know how many Mosques the Saudis have built in America, but it's more than a few.


17 posted on 09/14/2006 11:45:08 AM PDT by clearlight
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I was unaware that there was a bigot police on FR. How does it work ? Is speaking the truth about Islam forbidden even here at FR ?

All of history supports the claim that Muslims have never lived in peaceful co-existence with other religions, how much more proof do we need : 1400 years and over 50 million killed and we still want to be politically correct ?


18 posted on 09/14/2006 11:48:09 AM PDT by Maneesh (A non-hyphenated American.)
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Expert: No peace with Muslims, ever

I don't think it takes an expert to figure this out.

19 posted on 09/14/2006 11:54:46 AM PDT by Mark17
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To: mariabush

Say it again, and again. Paint a sign, wear a t-shirt.
It's in their book.
Submit to Islam or die.

If they no longer believe that- they can revise the Koran.
Until then- who are we to say their 'holy book' isn't the real Islam?


20 posted on 09/14/2006 11:55:07 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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