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Chairman Hyde Whacks the Dems!
Hyde Press ^ | 09/13/06 | Henry Hyde

Posted on 09/13/2006 3:51:27 PM PDT by HastertFan

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To: beyond the sea

BITE YOUR TONGUE!!


61 posted on 09/13/2006 5:58:12 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kabooms"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: seasoned traditionalist

"They were only released after the Carter Administration negotiated a considerable ransom, when Ronald Reagan was about to be inaugurated."

You ask about this. I have never heard it before either, and I'm old enough to have remembered and lived through the whole thing. The only thing I can think of, remotely, is the Oliver North thing about trading arms for hostages w/Iran to help the Contras. I've never heard of a ransom paid to Iran for the hostages. I hope someone on this thread can answer your question, or ping someone who would know more about it.


62 posted on 09/13/2006 5:59:39 PM PDT by rightazrain (Past is prologue.)
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To: seasoned traditionalist; Mo1; Txsleuth; BigSkyFreeper; onyx; Howlin; Peach; ohioWfan; DrDeb; ...
Judge Taylor's Ruling Is Carter's Mind -- It's Weakness Is Terror's Strength - Excerpt

We have to reassess our foreign policy in dealing with Iran.

We must (correction) change it from passivity or reactive to a preemptive course of action. We must move out from where we are now about Iran, and preempt Iran’s every move that poses an imminent danger to our national security.

What price shall we take for the lesson of history is not for me to decide, yet there is no question for me that we must move out of the spot where we know that a ton of rock from the sky will fall on that spot.

When that rock falls where we are, it would be too late to prove our procrastination that we don’t have to move away until the rock falls on us. The dead can’t talk nor can they admit mistakes.

The terror in Iran only communicates with and understands force, nuclear or otherwise.

Carter was indecisive, trying to reason out with the terror of Iran to release the American diplomats that were taken hostage, for Iran to name its price for their freedom. It was one of the darkest hours in the history of this country in dealing with terror.

Only when Republican President Ronald Reagan succeeded Carter that Khomeini’s belligerence on hostage-taking and vile insults heaped on the United States started to simmer down, and finally freed our incarcerated diplomats following Reagan’s ultimatum to release them or face the consequences. The release was made through the mediation of Algeria to save Khomeini’s face.

In rejecting Iran’s demand for $24 billion for ransom and the orderly release of the kidnapped diplomats, Reagan said, “I don’t think you pay ransom for people that have been kidnapped by barbarians .” [Refer to Note (3)]

I don’t think either that the world will have sleepless night mulling over a guilty conscience when the nukes were dropped on barbarians that have no conscience to kill wantonly as they please, to begin with.

Americans and the people around the world [include this writer among those who wept in private for justice when American diplomats were subjected to such unspeakable indignities not fit to print here] were just waiting for Reagan to push the button and wipe primeval Iran off the map – maybe primitive Iran might not be really erased completely from the map when we drop the nukes like we did in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and that would be when mushroom dusts settled down and a sleek of oil might still be found where Iran used to be.

When the liberals and the anti-war movement started to compare the Bush administration as the cause of international disrespect of America in dealing with terrorists which to them the invasion of Iraq is deemed to be the pinnacle of such denigration, I know for a fact being right there in my UN days, that it is not even a droplet in the bucket of Carter’s indecisive terror capitulation and diplomatic pandering which did not only cost the unnecessary loss of American lives but also of this nation’s dignity and prestige we built in the crucible of war and peace for democracy to thrive unchallenged over more than two hundred years, that eventually went down the drain.

The American public of this generation must know that it was during the presidency of Jimmy Carter – a liberal Democrat President – that this greatest and most powerful nation on the planet had suffered the worst humiliation and loss of prestige and respect in the eyes of the world ever recorded.

Carter’s international mindset is not to fight terror but to negotiate with terror. It’s like pleading that terror will have mercy on us if we should not hurt terrorists when they hurt us.

We should not hurt terrorists when they hurt us because according to Carter, “We deny personal responsibility when we plant landmines and, days or years later, a stranger to us — often a child – is crippled or killed.” [4]

In simple language, Carter would only allow terrorists to plant landmines to maim, kill or cripple our children, but would not allow us to do the same to terrorists’ children because when we do, we deny responsibility.

This is self-immolation. This is only heard on stage from the last comic standing.

The problem is, terrorists do not listen to nor learn their lesson from clowns.

When this country is led by a President of this kind in times of war, it’s time to pray.

Obviously, Carter’s weakness is terror’s strength. So is the ruling of Judge Taylor.

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Edwin Sumcad - has written published, unpublished academic papers; has long years of newspaper experience, writing daily and magazine editorials, essays, feature articles, columns, novelettes, short stories. Academic, other works -- has degrees in literature and jornalism, masters in development economics, and in civil law; journalist, practicing lawyer, Finance Attache, ASEAN specialist, retired diplomat, and former deputy permanent representative to the United Nations.

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Anyone really know if a ransom was paid?

63 posted on 09/13/2006 6:04:31 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: Suzy Quzy
lol

We'll all have to get a copy of "Rules For Radicals".

;-)

64 posted on 09/13/2006 6:08:43 PM PDT by beyond the sea ( A tree fell in woods, a conservative wasn't around, would it still kill the liberal chained to it?)
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To: beyond the sea

Sean Hannity will play the SCREECHING speech of Hillary every day and she will NOT win!!!


65 posted on 09/13/2006 6:10:11 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kabooms"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: Suzy Quzy
LOL

"I am sick and tired ......"

She is one angry woman.

****

I really think the roots of Hillary's paranoia and anger go back to her childhood when her father gave her a toaster and a radio as bath toys.

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66 posted on 09/13/2006 6:13:30 PM PDT by beyond the sea ( A tree fell in woods, a conservative wasn't around, would it still kill the liberal chained to it?)
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To: seasoned traditionalist; Mo1; Txsleuth; BigSkyFreeper; onyx; Howlin; Peach; ohioWfan; DrDeb; ...
Found this .. from FrontPage Magazine:

As tensions mounted, Carter withdrew U.S. support from the Shah, turning Iran into a beacon of hope for jihadists around the world.

Before admitting the exiled Shah to America, he accepted Iranian guarantees they could secure our embassy, one of the costliest miscalculations in the history of American foreign policy.

If al-Qaeda was emboldened by American reversals in Beirut and Somalia, one can only imagine their glee at the 14-month-long hostage crisis.

Carter ultimately agreed to pay a ransom of $8 billion (of which, Iran netted $3 billion), [15] although Ronald Reagan’s toughness and resolution was the decisive factor in ending the crisis.

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Sounds like we did pay those monsters.

67 posted on 09/13/2006 6:16:13 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: BigSkyFreeper; cardinal4

Mao Zedong has gone on to his reward, and the Paper Tiger is still roaring. His "Long March" in 1936, and the "Great Cultural Revolution" in the mid 1960s led to the quasi-capitalist China we have today. Hope Ol' Mao doesn't get too sick from spinning in his grave.


68 posted on 09/13/2006 6:30:50 PM PDT by Ax (Cheer, cheer, for Old Notre Dame. Sorry 'bout that, Nittany Lions. No, I'm not.)
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To: Suzy Quzy
"Hillary said that when she first set eyes on Bill Clinton back in college he had a beard and he reminded her of a Viking, which was perfect ............... because she reminded him of Iceland.

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69 posted on 09/13/2006 6:34:53 PM PDT by beyond the sea ( A tree fell in woods, a conservative wasn't around, would it still kill the liberal chained to it?)
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To: Ax

Hey, are you back home from the Keys?


70 posted on 09/13/2006 6:35:22 PM PDT by cardinal4 (America, despite the usual suspects, stands firmly with Israel..)
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To: STARWISE

Thanks ...I did NOT know that...I wonder if this is big news to a LOT of people.

I just saw Jimmah for a second on Larry King..and he said that if Congress went to the dems...with Bush as POTUS for the next 2 years...it would create a sense of "bipartisanship"....LOL


71 posted on 09/13/2006 6:35:57 PM PDT by Txsleuth (,((((((((ISRAEL)))))) Pray for the release of the Israelis.)
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To: Txsleuth

He, too, makes my blood boil (and my list is growing a lot). He should've been removed for incompetency .. absolutely THE worst.


72 posted on 09/13/2006 6:37:49 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: Mo1

It's nice to see a few (not many but a couple) of Republicans taking a public stand against the outrageous RAT behavior that has been leaving the nation infuriated for the past 6 years.


73 posted on 09/13/2006 6:40:01 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (We officially have a new American political party. The American Democrat-Stalinist party.)
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To: cardinal4

Yes. Didn't you get my email?


74 posted on 09/13/2006 6:42:18 PM PDT by Ax (Cheer, cheer, for Old Notre Dame. Sorry 'bout that, Nittany Lions. No, I'm not.)
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To: Ax

No, Im at the airport..


75 posted on 09/13/2006 6:51:15 PM PDT by cardinal4 (America, despite the usual suspects, stands firmly with Israel..)
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To: Soul Seeker

You let the opponent exhaust themselves as they run their big yap. Then you saw off the limb they put themselves out on.


76 posted on 09/13/2006 6:52:29 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Show them no mercy, for you shall receive none!)
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To: HastertFan; STARWISE
KaPOW!!!!

KEEP THIS UP, GUYS!! Don't be afraid to tell the TRUTH about the 'legacy' of the RATS!

77 posted on 09/13/2006 7:28:24 PM PDT by ohioWfan (George W. Bush - "Take his character all together, and we shall not look upon his like again.")
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To: STARWISE


Wow --- sounds like it to me too.


78 posted on 09/13/2006 7:35:11 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: STARWISE


I despise Carter bump.


79 posted on 09/13/2006 7:38:01 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: Mo1


Better late then never bump.


80 posted on 09/13/2006 7:39:04 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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