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Evidence: Saddam did have al-Qaida ties Documents contradict Senate conclusion to the contrary
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Posted: September 13, 2006

Posted on 09/13/2006 8:40:01 AM PDT by april15Bendovr

Evidence: Saddam did have al-Qaida ties Documents contradict Senate conclusion to the contrary Posted: September 13, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

Saddam Hussein on Iraqi TV prior to the war

A new Senate report that concludes there was no connection between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida apparently relegates to insignificant documentation that the federal government released earlier this year drawing that very conclusion.

The Senate Intelligence Committee has disclosed an October 2005 CIA conclusion that the Iraqi dictator did not have a "relationship, harbor or turn a blind eye toward" Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, an al-Qaida operative, or any of his associates.

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In fact, Saddam rejected approaches from al-Qaida and feared Islamic extremists as a danger to his regime, the committee determined.

But as WND reported earlier this year, pre-war documents posted online by the Pentagon included a letter from a member of Saddam's intelligence apparatus indicating al-Qaida and the Taliban had a relationship with the regime prior to the 9/11 attacks.

A letter by the member of Saddam's Al Mukabarat to a superior, dated Sept. 15, 2001, reported a pre-9/11 conversation between an Iraqi intelligence source and a Taliban Afghani consul.

That information had been released on the orders of National Intelligence Director John Negroponte, and the letter was reviewed by an independent Middle East analyst whose conclusion was that it appeared genuine.

The letter indicated Osama bin Laden and the Taliban in Afghanistan were in contact with Iraq – noting a specific visit to Baghdad – and said the U.S. had proof Saddam's regime and al-Qaida were cooperating to hit a target in the U.S.

The documents also suggested the possibility that the U.S. could strike Iraq and Afghanistan if an attack on the U.S. proved to be tied to bin Laden and the Taliban.

Democrats on the Senate committee told the Associated Press that the administration's belief there was a connection was based partly on intelligence the White House knew was flawed.

President Bush numerous times, and as lately as last month, noted the possibilities of "a world in which you had Saddam Hussein" with access to weapons of mass destruction and a connection with al-Qaida.

A committee member, Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., told reporters that CIA chief George Tenet admitted that policymakers wanted him to be consistent with the president's message, despite doubts expressed by his own agents.

However, the earlier documents, including one dated Aug. 17, 2002, identified the al-Qaida member as Ahmed Fadil Nizal Al Khalaylah, the real name of Zarqawi, and includes a series of photos. Zarqawi was killed in a U.S. airstrike last summer.

Laura Mansfield, the independent Middle East analyst, said the document provided "startling" evidence at the very least Saddam Hussein's government knew al-Qaida was active in Iraq.

The government, in releasing the documents, did caution that it had not determined the accuracy of what it was releasing.

Both Republicans and Democrats charged the other side was trying using the release of more information for its political purposes.

The Gateway Pundit Blog republished much of the documentation, noting that Saddam Hussein's government was aware not just of the presence of al-Qaida terrorists in Iraq, but also that the Anbar province was being used as a launch point for those headed to Afghanistan to fight the U.S.


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1 posted on 09/13/2006 8:40:03 AM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: april15Bendovr

The blind choose not to see.

Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew.


2 posted on 09/13/2006 8:43:59 AM PDT by shankbear
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To: april15Bendovr
A letter by the member of Saddam's Al Mukabarat to a superior, dated Sept. 15, 2001, reported a pre-9/11 conversation between an Iraqi intelligence source and a Taliban Afghani consul.

Here is the letter, first translated and posted right here on FR.

Document: Afghani Taliban Consul Spoke of a Relationship Between Iraq and Bin Laden See Translation

3 posted on 09/13/2006 8:44:02 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: april15Bendovr
However, the earlier documents, including one dated Aug. 17, 2002, identified the al-Qaida member as Ahmed Fadil Nizal Al Khalaylah, the real name of Zarqawi, and includes a series of photos. Zarqawi was killed in a U.S. airstrike last summer.

Here is the translation of Zarqawi in Iraqi document.

Document: Zarqawi in Iraq Long Before the War Started (See translation and interesting finds)

4 posted on 09/13/2006 8:46:26 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: april15Bendovr

bump


5 posted on 09/13/2006 8:47:52 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: april15Bendovr
And here the translation of the document that talks about Saddam Intelliengce meeting with Bin Laden in 1995 in Sudan.

Saddam Regime Document: Iraqi Intelligence met with Bin Laden in 1995 (Translation)

6 posted on 09/13/2006 8:48:46 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: april15Bendovr

The pisser is that many main stream "conservatives" spew, in unison with the left, the shiboleth that there were no WMD and no tie between Saddam and AQ. I can understand the left spewing it, but anyone on our team spewing it should be shaken manually and their sanity questioned!


7 posted on 09/13/2006 8:51:58 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: jveritas

Yep. The Senate report touted by the democrats is as bogus as the 9-11 committee's whitewash of the Clinton administrations ineptitude.


8 posted on 09/13/2006 8:54:21 AM PDT by pissant
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To: jveritas
Thank you Jveritas.

Here is an article I posted on Newsbusters including links of your hard work. The article also talks about the obstruction and conflict of interest Jamie Gorelick created.

Will the Left Ever Support the War on Terrorism?

http://newsbusters.org/node/6872
9 posted on 09/13/2006 8:56:12 AM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: jveritas

How do the Democrats and drive by media get away with ignoring this when the evidence is clear?


10 posted on 09/13/2006 9:00:21 AM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: april15Bendovr

ABC news found a link during the Clinton administration

http://www.mediaresearch.org/rm/cyber/2004/binladen061704/segment1.ram

see the video


11 posted on 09/13/2006 9:01:30 AM PDT by edzo4
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To: april15Bendovr
No kidding... it infuriates me that they are trying to ignore the translated documents.

I mean I know they ignored them when they were released, they ignored them when they were translated (for them, since they weren't interested)... only ABC reported on it at the the time, and even then only once in one article (Weekly Standard and Stephen Hays did some), but besides those two sources the others just ignored it all.

ABC even ignored their earlier reporting in this latest round, not 'remembering' to mention or reference evidence DIRECTLY contradicting this latest 'report' that they, themselves, talked about.

What REALLY bothers me though, is that even the guys on our side are CLOWNS with the translated docs. Haven't heard ANY of the talking heads talk about them. Even as they were coming out, not Rush, not Hannity, not Levin, not Medved, not Ingraham, not ANYBODY.

Friggin' Rush even reported on this 'report' as 'old news' and spent time on it just this week but didn't even think of brining up the translated documents from Saddam himself that contradict it all.

SHAME ON ALL OF THEM!!!
12 posted on 09/13/2006 9:06:44 AM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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-The pisser is that many main stream "conservatives" spew, in unison with the left...-

Yes, that angers me more. Not just that, but few if any Pubs chime in with evidence to the contrary, to battle the constant whine of the media. The evidence is there!


13 posted on 09/13/2006 9:08:37 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: april15Bendovr; All
PICTURE PROOF: The Saddam-Al Qaeda Connections
14 posted on 09/13/2006 9:08:58 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: FreedomNeocon

Despite the Keno monitor, betting slips and Scratch Ticket machine, I found no evidence of the Lottery at the Highland Cafe last night.


15 posted on 09/13/2006 9:09:06 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: GOP_1900AD
The pisser is that many main stream "conservatives" spew, in unison with the left, the shiboleth that there were no WMD and no tie between Saddam and AQ. I can understand the left spewing it, but anyone on our team spewing it should be shaken manually and their sanity questioned!

The problem starts with Bush and goes down. For some reason, he just rolls over and plays dead on this. I've about had it with him over this. He knows they were involved together. I have a suspicion that the real reason is that Bush the First had something to do with letting ex-Republican Guard settle in Oklahoma, they were involved with McVeigh in blowing up the Murrah Federal Bldg, and Bush II doesn't want that whole house of cards to fall on his father. Who knows, it's as good of a conspiracy theory as any I guess.

16 posted on 09/13/2006 9:11:17 AM PDT by badbass
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To: GOP_1900AD
Yeah, I hate that too.

Waaaaaaaaaaaay too many 'conservatives' try to pay this false deference to the argument because they are exhausted fighting the absolutely lunatic fringe and their 'so easy to criticize' Bush ordered 9/11 things.

Since they are out fighting those crazies (which I think is a deliberate attempt to 'lower the bar'), for some reason they think they need to 'give a little' to seem like 'reasonable people' and 'not just partisan'... so they pick something like Saddam never had WMD or has nothing to do with Terrorism, and fake some kind of 'well I understand your point' deference out of some lame misguided attempt to make their larger PoV more palatable.
17 posted on 09/13/2006 9:11:55 AM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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To: jveritas
The media was reporting back in 1999 that Iraq's Intelligence Service had met with bin Laden in Sudan. So, they can't say Bush made that up.
18 posted on 09/13/2006 9:12:52 AM PDT by faq
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To: april15Bendovr
PBS had a show on terror training and WMD training camps in Iraq when Clinton was in office. Now all of that has disappeared?
19 posted on 09/13/2006 9:13:25 AM PDT by mountainlyons (Hard core conservative)
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20 posted on 09/13/2006 9:27:13 AM PDT by bitt ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.")
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