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Cervical Cancer Shot May Be Standard In 6th Grade
The Indy Channel ^ | September 12, 2006 | AP

Posted on 09/13/2006 4:14:30 AM PDT by Abathar

A bipartisan group of Michigan lawmakers wants all sixth-grade girls to be vaccinated against cervical cancer.

A Republican state senator who is the lead sponsor said it's the first legislation of its kind in the U.S.

The vaccine was approved by federal regulators this summer and hailed as a breakthrough in cancer prevention. The shots prevent infections from strains of a sexually transmitted virus -- human papilloma virus, or HPV -- that can cause cervical cancer and genital warts.

At the time, conservatives expressed concern that schools would require the vaccine for enrollment. They argue that such mandates infringe on parents' rights and send a message that underage sex is OK.

If approved, the measure would go into effect for the next school year.

The vaccine was approved for females between ages 9 and 26. In studies, it was credited with preventing disease from the two types of HPV that are responsible for approximately 70 percent of all cervical cancers, according to Detroit television station WDIV.

The legislator who proposed the requirement noted that, as with all other school-required vaccines, parents may opt out of this requirement for medical, religious or philosophical reasons.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
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To: sandbar

I know that HPV can be transmitted other ways but the other ways isn't why many young girls have it. They have it because of sexual activity, promiscuous or not. I'm used to people calling girls sluts,etc. when they get pregnant, get a disease as if they did it to themselves ;-) I'm not surprised that this thread has had a lot of name calling. Personally, I'm skeptical of ALL vaccines but I think the HPV vaccine should be available.


281 posted on 09/13/2006 12:55:51 PM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: Abathar
The legislator who proposed the requirement noted that, as with all other school-required vaccines, parents may opt out of this requirement for medical, religious or philosophical reasons.

The problem with *opting out* is the pressure to get the vaccine is tremendous. The schools don't want to hear that your child is not vaccinated with a required vaccine.

It seems like the issue people keep forgetting about is not whether the vaccine is effective or needed but the *mandatory* part. Offering the parents the choice to take it is a whole different issue than making it mandatory and having them opt out.

We should not not be required to do something with the option of opting out, and then have to fight every inch of the way to exercise our right not to have it. And that's what ends up happening.

282 posted on 09/13/2006 1:12:37 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: sandbar
It's a shot for a virus that is sexually transmitted. If you want to have it or let your children have it, fine that's your choice. It's not mine and it damn sure doesn't need to be the state's.
283 posted on 09/13/2006 1:14:44 PM PDT by Jaded (does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: sandbar
HAH! Your interests are not so altruistic Ant...

Thanks. You apparently know my motives better than I do.
284 posted on 09/13/2006 1:15:38 PM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party.)
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To: sandbar

You seem to be the one calling it a slut shot. And doing most of the name calling. The original comments, had you stopped to read them were about how feminism/government views girls. Have you watched TV lately? Or looked at what's being marketed to girls from 6-12, Bratz Bralettes and thongs ? I suppose you think all of that's okay?

You need to direct your anger at the person who hurt you and not everyone who disagrees with your "the government knows best" attitude. Good luck with that.


285 posted on 09/13/2006 1:21:59 PM PDT by Jaded (does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Jaded

>>>You seem to be the one calling it a slut shot>>>

Quoting Antoninus, a poster on this thread.


286 posted on 09/13/2006 1:26:20 PM PDT by sandbar
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To: metmom

I don't think it will be a high pressure deal for opting out of this, its not like anyone but the kid and their Dr. will know whether she has had the shot or not. I doubt highly that the teachers would know who gets them and who doesn't, that is if it was done properly. If they line them up and walk them through the gym and do them all at once people will know who gets them and who doesn't, but I doubt that is the way it will be handled.


287 posted on 09/13/2006 1:27:34 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: Antoninus
Again, you assume the worst possible motives.

Not assumption. Observation.

288 posted on 09/13/2006 1:28:05 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: Jaded

>>>You need to direct your anger at the person who hurt you and not everyone who disagrees with your "the government knows best" attitude. Good luck with that.>>>

The person 'who hurt' me? Who do you think you are, Freud?

My anger is with people who get on this thread and claim that THEIR daughter does not need this shot because only sluts need this shot because THEIR daughter wouldn't sleep around and THEIR daughter's husband would be a virgin too, blah blah blah. And it makes me sick because THEIR holier than thou attitude along with THEIR daughters imperfection or THEIR future son-in-laws imperfection of complete abstinence could be a death sentence for THEIR daughter. And it makes me sad for THEIR daughters. Because THEIR daughter could be like my mother, who died from this STD as so many call it. Through no fault of her own, other than marrying an imperfect man.



289 posted on 09/13/2006 1:30:49 PM PDT by sandbar
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To: sandbar; antonius

No, Antonius didn't. He said that the root cause which was sex outside of marriage should be addressed, then there wouldn't be HPV. Imagine that. You called him a fundamentalist who hates women, among other things. Try again.


290 posted on 09/13/2006 1:32:00 PM PDT by Jaded (does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: sandbar

Well said.


291 posted on 09/13/2006 1:32:20 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: Jaded

No, that's not Sandbar. See post #104 for the "slut shot" mention.


292 posted on 09/13/2006 1:32:40 PM PDT by linda_22003
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To: ReignOfError
Not assumption. Observation.

Slanted observation--because it suits your point of view.

Fact: STDs like HPV are almost entirely spread by sexual contact outside of monogamous marriage.

Fact: If everyone in America suddenly waited until marriage before engaging in sex, and remained monogamous for their entire lives, STDs would disappear. There would be no need for vaccines to prevent them.
293 posted on 09/13/2006 1:32:49 PM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party.)
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To: sandbar
My anger is with people who get on this thread and claim that THEIR daughter does not need this shot because only sluts need this shot because THEIR daughter wouldn't sleep around and THEIR daughter's husband would be a virgin too, blah blah blah. And it makes me sick because THEIR holier than thou attitude along with THEIR daughters imperfection or THEIR future son-in-laws imperfection of complete abstinence could be a death sentence for THEIR daughter. And it makes me sad for THEIR daughters. Because THEIR daughter could be like my mother, who died from this STD as so many call it.

How about this--stop worrying about MY daughters.
294 posted on 09/13/2006 1:35:16 PM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party.)
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To: Jaded

Yes, I was the one who made the apparently notorious "slut shot" reference. I guess it hit a little too close to home for some of the sensitive sallys on here.


295 posted on 09/13/2006 1:36:52 PM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party.)
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To: linda_22003
No, that's not Sandbar. See post #104 for the "slut shot" mention.

Well, if y'all are going to get so worked up about the term, I guess I may as well put it in the keywords...
296 posted on 09/13/2006 1:38:19 PM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party.)
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To: mombonn
Rushed to market...The price will make you fall over...And there's no time passed for hindsight.

How many women took the Hormone stuff? I real the "strongest" test results. If you took it for 20 years, you would live 8 additional days.

I'm not convinced this is the solution to cervical cancer.

297 posted on 09/13/2006 1:41:07 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Antoninus; sandbar

My apologies. Sandbar was still way out of line.

It shouldn't be mandatory no matter what excuse the state uses.


298 posted on 09/13/2006 1:42:27 PM PDT by Jaded (does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Antoninus
I think the analogy of vaccines to seat belts and air bags is apt, but maybe not for the most obvious reasons.


It's not quite apt because you're comparing the act of driving normally with the act of abnormal (outside of monogamous marriage) sexual intercourse.

Driving normally does not involve colliding with anything. I have been driving pretty much every day for more than 20 years, and have never once been in an accident where my seat belt saved my life or an airbag deployed.

Injuries and fatalities are measured per hundred million passenger miles, because a smaller sample would have too many digits after the decimal point and the math would be more difficult. So to say that "normal" driving doesn't result in a crash is both proscriptive -- telling people not to die in a crash -- and descriptive -- reflecting the fact that most people don't.

Sexual contact only within a monogamous marriage is not, and has never been, the norm for a majority of people on Earth. So your use of the word "normal" can only be read as a moral distinction. It is proscriptive, not descriptive.

299 posted on 09/13/2006 1:42:29 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: Antoninus
Fact: If everyone in America suddenly waited until marriage before engaging in sex, and remained monogamous for their entire lives, STDs would disappear. There would be no need for vaccines to prevent them.

Fact: If every frog in America suddenly developed wings, they wouldn't bump their asses from hopping.

300 posted on 09/13/2006 1:44:12 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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