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Reborn [Pill reverses "vegetative state"]
The Guardian (UK) ^ | September 12, 2006 | by Steve Boggan

Posted on 09/11/2006 8:17:41 PM PDT by aculeus

We have always been told there is no recovery from persistent vegetative state - doctors can only make a sufferer's last days as painless as possible. But is that really the truth? Across three continents, severely brain-damaged patients are awake and talking after taking ... a sleeping pill. And no one is more baffled than the GP who made the breakthrough. Steve Boggan witnesses these 'strange and wonderful' rebirths

For three years, Riaan Bolton has lain motionless, his eyes open but unseeing. After a devastating car crash doctors said he would never again see or speak or hear. Now his mother, Johanna, dissolves a pill in a little water on a teaspoon and forces it gently into his mouth. Within half an hour, as if a switch has been flicked in his brain, Riaan looks around his home in the South African town of Kimberley and says, "Hello." Shortly after his accident, Johanna had turned down the option of letting him die.

Three hundred miles away, Louis Viljoen, a young man who had once been cruelly described by a doctor as "a cabbage", greets me with a mischievous smile and a streetwise four-move handshake. Until he took the pill, he too was supposed to be in what doctors call a persistent vegetative state.

Across the Atlantic in the United States, George Melendez, who is also brain-damaged, has lain twitching and moaning as if in agony for years, causing his parents unbearable grief. He, too, is given this little tablet and again, it's as if a light comes on. His father asks him if he is, indeed, in pain. "No," George smiles, and his family burst into tears.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ambien; brain; braindead; deathcult; dontkillthem; health; hildypottymouth; humanbean; medicine; moralabsolutes; post7; pvs; sarahscantlin; scantlin; schiavo; terrischiavo; threadhijacking; veggietales; wonderdrugs; zolpidem
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To: Axenolith; onyx; Howlin; All
You wouldn't have to worry about that if you weren't a nanny government hugging loon

And it sinks to this....

161 posted on 09/11/2006 10:48:41 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: onyx

How silly of you.


162 posted on 09/11/2006 10:49:11 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Orange1998

Anybody who wishes for another posters death most certainly should be suspended at the very least.

These people take this WAY too intense.


163 posted on 09/11/2006 10:50:12 PM PDT by Howlin (Who in the press will stick up for ABC's right to air this miniseries? ~~NRO)
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To: denydenydeny

Yea, Alzeroth, Belial, Balthazaar, et. al. will be disturbed that sacrifices aren't being made...


164 posted on 09/11/2006 10:51:10 PM PDT by Axenolith (Got Au? Ag?)
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To: Hildy

I'm really confused about that one; aren't these the people who want the goverment to make everybody do everything the way THEY want it to be done?


165 posted on 09/11/2006 10:51:45 PM PDT by Howlin (Who in the press will stick up for ABC's right to air this miniseries? ~~NRO)
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To: Howlin; Hildy

Behaviour.
Show me where I have behaved badly on this thread Howlin?
I was having a DISCUSSION with Hildy and then noticed you just sort of jumped in and started swingin at everyone. I also noticed that Hildy was holding her own just fine. So then again I guess perhaps it's you being judgmental and pious. If you don't want me to post to Hildy then say so.


166 posted on 09/11/2006 10:51:52 PM PDT by antceecee (Western countries really aren't up to winning this war on terror... it might offend the terrorists.)
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To: MHGinTN
How silly of you.

For calling you down for the vicious and fallacious poster you are?

167 posted on 09/11/2006 10:53:24 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: Hildy

I didn't post that to you. I posted that to your friend Howlin.
Don't confuse the issue Hildy. I was having a calm discussion with you.


168 posted on 09/11/2006 10:53:46 PM PDT by antceecee (Western countries really aren't up to winning this war on terror... it might offend the terrorists.)
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To: RS

I wouldn't be too sure about that. With exciting results like these in what were considered hopeless cases, zolpidem is going to be studied. And if it proves successful, it's going to become standard of care, whether or not the FDA approves it.

I'm curious about several things, but a few right off the bat:
1. Are the patients involved PVS or MCS (minimally conscious state)?
2. Does the patient's brain have to be basically anatomically intact? (If the theory involving GABA is correct, I'd guess "yes.")
3. How long is "transient"? One description I found seemed to say that the patient involved had only a brief lucid time each morning. (It would be truly hard to have a loved one back for only 10 minutes each day!) More hopefully, another report for a different patient mentioned 3 to 4 hours.


169 posted on 09/11/2006 10:56:07 PM PDT by retMD
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To: Howlin

My response was to the use of the word TeriBots... and you know it.
Don't try to paint me with your nasty attitude brush Howlin.
You know your use of Terri's name in this way is disgusting, admit it.


170 posted on 09/11/2006 10:56:27 PM PDT by antceecee (Western countries really aren't up to winning this war on terror... it might offend the terrorists.)
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To: Howlin

As soon as I read it I said....ZOT. Gone in seconds!


171 posted on 09/11/2006 10:56:58 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: antceecee; Hildy; Howlin
Allow me to show you why Howlin and I are here:

To: Triggerhippie; onyx; Peach; Howlin; RS

Here's to your ill health and untimely demise...

And there you have it..a compassionate Freeper who preaches the sanctity of life. IT'S SO PERFECT...and predictable.

127 posted on 09/12/2006 12:20:09 AM CDT by Hildy (5r)

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172 posted on 09/11/2006 10:57:11 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: onyx

Quit trying to attribute that to me. Read my posts to Howlin. I responded to her untasteful disgusting abuse of Terri's name.


173 posted on 09/11/2006 10:59:29 PM PDT by antceecee (Western countries really aren't up to winning this war on terror... it might offend the terrorists.)
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To: unspun

It's a standard medical term. There are other medical terms that don't necessarily describe things well either, but continue to be used because everyone knows them. If zolpidem proves effective in what is clearly PVS, the term will change, believe me.


174 posted on 09/11/2006 10:59:41 PM PDT by retMD
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To: antceecee

It's BEHAVIOR.

Do you have a retention problem or do you just comprehend some of the words?


I was pinged to a DEATH THREAT on this thread.


175 posted on 09/11/2006 11:00:08 PM PDT by Howlin (Who in the press will stick up for ABC's right to air this miniseries? ~~NRO)
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To: Hildy

Rich, but the truth...


176 posted on 09/11/2006 11:00:26 PM PDT by Axenolith (Got Au? Ag?)
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To: Triggerhippie
...your rabid and tenacious defense of euthanasia makes me wonder if you made the call to pull your loved ones plugs and are now trying to rationalize it.

And I'm sure you wonder why people like you get a "vacation" from FR.

177 posted on 09/11/2006 11:00:33 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: Orange1998

Just makes me shake my head.


178 posted on 09/11/2006 11:00:51 PM PDT by Howlin (Who in the press will stick up for ABC's right to air this miniseries? ~~NRO)
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To: antceecee

Is it more disgusting that being called a murderer?

I think not.


179 posted on 09/11/2006 11:01:50 PM PDT by Howlin (Who in the press will stick up for ABC's right to air this miniseries? ~~NRO)
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To: retMD

This struck me as interesting -

2. Does the patient's brain have to be basically anatomically intact?

what does "basically anatomically intact" require ?


180 posted on 09/11/2006 11:02:06 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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