Posted on 09/11/2006 8:46:31 AM PDT by conservativecorner
House Majority Leader John Boehner (Ohio) last week would not rule out passing a comprehensive immigration bill before Congress recesses for the mid-term elections.
When a reporter asked him if it was realistic to assume Congress would not pass such a bill in the limited time left on the legislative calendar, he replied, That is not fair.
Boehner said that conversations about the overall bill, the larger bill, are going to continue, but suggested alternative methods to secure the border were being planned.
You will see us, I think, again this month, move to include additional money for fencing on the border, more money for agents on the border and more money for surveillance on the border, he said.
Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (Tenn.) echoed Boehners remarks. Frist said, Through the Defense appropriation bill and the Homeland Security appropriation bill, we will put heavy resources on making our borders secure. We need to aggressively, through legislation and through appropriations, secure our borders,
Over the August recess, the Congressional Budget Office quietly released a report that estimated the total cost to taxpayers of the immigration bill that passed the Senate would be $127 billion over the next decade.
When I asked if that was an acceptable cost, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) said, One of the alternative proposals of our colleagues on the Republican side is to put 11 million people in jail.Who wants to pay for that? What does that get? I dont know specifically how they allocated the costs or their priorities of the bill that may or may not be judged as a good investment, but let me say that the alternative is far more costly.
Enforcement Alone
Rep. J.D. Hayworth (R.-Ariz.) said passing a bill could be possible if it focused on enforcement alone. No if, ands or buts he said, and certainly no add-ons from the comprehensive camp.
Rep. Steve King (R.-Iowa) said he would welcome appropriations funding for border security but that hed rather see stand-alone legislation. Mr. Pence is not going to get his Ellis Island kiosks this year, he said, referring to the immigration plan being pushed by Rep. Mike Pence (R.-Ind.) that mandates immigrants visit foreign Ellis Island Centers to apply for citizenship.So why dont we do what we all agree needs to be done and lets be done, said King.That is to shut off the four million people a year pouring across our Southern border and then take up the debate in January.
If by November 8 the Southern border is not secured, King advised voters to look at the voting records of the candidates on the ballot. If they support House enforcement then stand with them because they are for controlling our borders. If they voted against it, brand them with the scarlet letter A for amnesty and vote accordingly.
Mr. Pence is not going to get his Ellis Island kiosks this year,....LOL...kiosks
needs repeating, again and again....
If by November 8 the Southern border is not secured, King advised voters to look at the voting records of the candidates on the ballot. If they support House enforcement then stand with them because they are for controlling our borders. If they voted against it, brand them with the scarlet letter A for amnesty and vote accordingly.
The cheap help is only cheap to the people who employ them; not the customer. If anything, prices go up everytime you turn around.
Grandpa on his deathbedsaid never trust a man that values a good suntan (Boehner)
Michigan is a good example of how RINOs can create a blue state.
As I watched the first installment of ABC's 9-11 last night, a question was asked regarding George Tenet and cowardice. I think that question still applies. Is anyone in D.C. not a coward?
Rep. J.D. Hayworth (R.-Ariz.) said passing a bill could be possible if it focused on enforcement alone. No if, ands or buts he said, and certainly no add-ons from the comprehensive camp.
I love J.D.
Rep. Steve King (R.-Iowa) said he would welcome appropriations funding for border security but that hed rather see stand-alone legislation. Mr. Pence is not going to get his Ellis Island kiosks this year, he said, referring to the immigration plan being pushed by Rep. Mike Pence (R.-Ind.) that mandates immigrants visit foreign Ellis Island Centers to apply for citizenship.So why dont we do what we all agree needs to be done and lets be done, said King.
Love the slap to Pence.
That is to shut off the four million people a year pouring across our Southern border and then take up the debate in January.
Debate, maybe, Amnesty? I'd recommend not.
If by November 8 the Southern border is not secured, King advised voters to look at the voting records of the candidates on the ballot. If they support House enforcement then stand with them because they are for controlling our borders. If they voted against it, brand them with the scarlet letter A for amnesty and vote accordingly.
I guess you would say Congressman King has committed a crime, here, huh?
I'm glad he and I are on the same page. Re-elect the majority which are border enforcement Republicans. If you are one of those with someone who is not, unfortunately I'm in that number, it's up to you. I'm not voting for my amnesty lovin' Congressman that's for sure. Though I AM helping elect Republicans that stand for border enforcement ELSEWHERE in the nation.
Oh, and Boehner has never been the deal breaker in this amnesty struggle. Hastert's the key to keeping amnesty off the table. He's the one refusing to allow a vote unless the majority of the majority agrees. His is the back I'm keeping an eye on, as amnesty lovers try to outmanuveur him. So far he's stood firm, I pray he stays that way.
In theory, I suppose you're right. The salamikazes could use the porous border to cross into the US and stage attacks. That's precisely why it's important to control and know who crosses, where they are, and when they leave.
However, there have been no terrorist attacks originating from across the southern border, and the vast majority of the illegals who cross the border are not terrorists in the first place.
So it is incorrect to say that the two issues are "intricately intertwined." Both serious issues, and both need to be dealt with. But they're not the same issue -- they have much different causes.
I firmly believe that the Republican CONTROLLED House will pass an "Enforcement" bill and send it to the next house.
There the Republican _Majority_ will probably try to get it to the floor. The CONTROL in the Senate, though, rests with the "moderates" of both parties, NOT with Republicans --- and the outcome is going to rest on what the Demodogs, in particular, believe is the least damaging position for them to take in each of their elections.
It is possible that the illegal immigration issue has finally reached the point that Americans will cast votes based on representative's positions. It's not clear to me yet whether it has... I know most analysts don't believe that to be true yet, though.
An example of the Hitlerian "Big Lie" in action.
Boehner and Frist have demonstrated that they will not defend this country. Either their are corrupt or mentally ill. They need to be replaced. Amazing how the highest levels of our government have been infiltrated.
The GOP and Dems are using amnesty in ads, and most of them are claiming to be tough on it while their opponent is not. It really is..something to watch occur.
Ex. The RNC is attacking Laffey has being poor on illegal immigration, when Chafee voted for the sell out bill in the Senate.
They are claiming the guy against Graf in a primary is a conservative for tight control of the borders, but he's a Kolbe cloned open borders liberal.
Then we have Dems like Cantwell out here in WA claiming they are get tough border hawks in their ad buys.
And yet the lie keeps being pushed from D.C. that the American people want amnesty. Well, then, why don't the amnesty lovers in both parties act like it in their campaigns?
Here is an alternative proposal:
How about building a real wall right along the border for no cost at all?
I believe that we could get a few million volunteers to work on it, and even get the building materials paid for by private citizens.
I heard a fellow say that he would work for free and provide his own material as long as he could put his own name on his section of the wall. - And he wasn't poor by any means.
Now what would Nancy say to having a real wall for no cost?
I'm quite sure that I know the answer to that.
When I asked if that was an acceptable cost, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) said, One of the alternative proposals of our colleagues on the Republican side is to put 11 million people in jail.Who wants to pay for that? What does that get?
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That's a lie.
AND MY PROPOSAL TO HAVE THE DEMOCRATS STOP LYING GOT NOWHERE.
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