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I hope the DVD has some kick-a$$ extras that detail point by point the facts backing up the UNEDITED version.
1 posted on 09/11/2006 6:22:09 AM PDT by Grig
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If the Toons can do this when Bubba is no longer POTUS, it makes one wonder what they could get away with if Hillie is elected to the WH.


2 posted on 09/11/2006 6:23:20 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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This Associated Press report itself is filled with mistakes.


4 posted on 09/11/2006 6:25:34 AM PDT by sandra_789 (.)
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"If people blame Bill Clinton after seeing this, then the miniseries has failed," said Kean, the former Republican New Jersey governor.

What a dumbass. But what do you expect from someone who was willing to be on the same commission with Jamie Gorelick?

5 posted on 09/11/2006 6:25:53 AM PDT by dirtboy (This tagline has been photoshopped)
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The scene between Clarke and O'Neill may have been fictional, but the content of the scene was authentic.

Clinton was disengaged due to Monicagate. No one can deny that.


6 posted on 09/11/2006 6:28:24 AM PDT by Brilliant
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Twice, the network de-emphasized the role of the commission that investigated the terrorist attacks in its film.

As one of the few people that have actually read the 9/11 Commission Report I must say that the mini-series has thus far done a pretty good job of sticking to it, in a compressed sort of way.
7 posted on 09/11/2006 6:28:38 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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"And if you don't like the hits to the Clinton administration, well, welcome to the club," Lehman said. "The Republicans have lived with Michael Moore and Oliver Stone and most of Hollywood as a fact of life."

Good retort.

10 posted on 09/11/2006 6:32:00 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (I would never belong to any club that would have someone like me as a member.)
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It is showing over here, in the UK, also.

I am trying to work out from the comments which version we are seeing. Whether it is the edited version or not.

I thought the first instalment was well put together and did not appear to pull too many punches. I am looking forward to the second.

We definitely got the 'I did not have sexual relations with that woman' at one point in the background from Billy boy.


11 posted on 09/11/2006 6:32:09 AM PDT by 5050 no line
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http://www.grasstopsusa.com/clips.html

Here they are! The video clips from the ABC mini-series The Path to 9-11 that Bill Clinton and the Democrats did not want you to see!


12 posted on 09/11/2006 6:32:17 AM PDT by Beth528
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"If people blame Bill Clinton after seeing this, then the miniseries has failed," said Kean, the former Republican New Jersey governor. "That's wrong and it shouldn't happen."

IF PEOPLE WATCH THIS MOVIE AND COME AWAY NOT BLAMING klintoon for everything leading up to 9/11, they would be delusional or dim/al qaeda operatives!

LLS


13 posted on 09/11/2006 6:32:57 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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I was wondering if the editing necessitated the network filling in the extra time with the NIGHTLINE segment that aired in the last 20 minutes to take up the slack.
15 posted on 09/11/2006 6:35:27 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (A wall first. A wall now.)
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bumparoo


17 posted on 09/11/2006 6:37:09 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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I watched last night and here is the overwhelming message I took away from it. The terrorists declared war on us a long time ago and have been waging that war for over a decade (it actually probably started in 1979 in Iran). The movie made it clear that these people are driven and determined to kill as many Americans as possible in what they clearly considered to be a war.

Forget the blame for a second. If any American watching this movie comes away with the realization that the terrorists are at war with us and have been for a long time, I will be satisfied.

19 posted on 09/11/2006 6:38:55 AM PDT by Pete
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The cut regarding the conversation in the car that the Republicans were pushing impeachment, etc. seems to me to be better for Clinton than what they replaced it with! The former could be interpreted as putting a lot of blame on Republicans, but the edited version makes just Clinton look "pathetic".


20 posted on 09/11/2006 6:38:56 AM PDT by fschmieg
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The editing was still very minor.

I don't really give a flip that the Monica stuff was cut out.

They still left in the most offending part of the Monica stuff, cutting to Clinton waving his finger.

And Berger, while not hanging up, still comes off very badly. He still ends up rejecting the call to go after Bin Laden because he thinks he needs Clinton to approve it. So, he ultimately turns down the chance to get him.

Albright's scene where she says she let the govt. know about the attempt was left in as well.


24 posted on 09/11/2006 6:41:07 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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This report is a bit off. It was the head of the Northern Alliance that said, 'Are there any men left in Washington, or are they all cowards?', not the Wahlburg character.


26 posted on 09/11/2006 6:41:53 AM PDT by rintense (Liberals stand for nothing and are against everything- unless it benefits them.)
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"ABC airs edited 9/11 miniseries (edits confirmed)"

Told ya!

29 posted on 09/11/2006 6:42:30 AM PDT by patriot_wes (Infant baptism - the foundation of an unbelieving and unsaved church.....)
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The mini-series fails to show Osama telling the world that Clinton's pullout from Somalia showed we didn't have the courage to oppose him!


32 posted on 09/11/2006 6:44:15 AM PDT by F-117A (They say there is no such thing as an ex-Marine,.Murtha disproves that!!!)
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I think in the long run the version that ran with edits may be more damning to Clinton than the original. It's like a sex scene in a 1950's era movie--there's a hint of what is going on but the down dirty part of it is left to the viewers' imagination (unlike today's movies that let it all hang out). With all the press on how the movie as aired was edited to make Clinton and cohorts look better, the general public will be wondering what was left on the cutting room floor, and their imaginations will be left to wander. Willa Cather called it "the thing not spoken", and opined that the best writers give only a hint and leave the rest to the audience.


35 posted on 09/11/2006 6:47:07 AM PDT by Burkean
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I put this timeline together from different named sources and posted it on FR before but I am posting it again in this thread, because I have gotten good feedback from it.


+ On Jan. 6, 1996, Clinton had a sexual encounter with Lewinsky the White House intern. (Starr Report)

+ Week of Jan. 14 - 21, Clinton had several sessions of phone sex with Lewinsky. (Starr Report)

+ On Jan. 21, Clinton had another sexual encounter with Lewinsky. (Starr Report)

+ On Feb. 4, Clinton activities included a sexual encounter followed by a leisurely chat with Lewinsky, as the two "sat and talked [afterward] for about 45 minutes," (Starr Report)

+ On Feb. 6, U.S. Ambassador to the Sudan Tim Carney met with Sudanese Foreign Minister Ali Osman Mohammed Taha at Taha's home in the capital city of Khartoum. "If you want bin Laden, we will give you bin Laden," Foreign Minister Taha told Ambassador Carney. (Losing bin Laden-Richard Miniter)

+ In late February or March, the president telephoned her (Lewinsky) at home and said he was disappointed that, because she had already left the White House for the evening, they could not get together. (Starr Report)

+ On March 10, Sudan's Minister of State for Defense Elfatih Erwa met with the CIA's Africa bureau chief. On instructions from its president, the government of Sudan agreed to arrest bin Laden and hand him over to U.S law enforcement at a time and place of the Clinton administration's choosing. "Where should we send him?" Erwa asked the CIA representative. (Losing bin Laden-Richard Miniter)

**THAT SAME DAY** (March 10)- Ms. Lewinsky took a visiting friend, Natalie Ungvari, to the White House. They bumped into the president, who said when Ms. Lewinsky introduced them, 'You must be her friend from California.' Ms. Ungvari was 'shocked' that the president knew where she was from. (Starr Report)

President Clinton has acknowledged being fully briefed on the Sudanese efforts to turn over the 9/11 mastermind, admitting that he made the final decision to turn the offer down."The Sudanese wanted America to start dealing with them again," Clinton confirmed during a February 2002 speech to a New York business group. (Losing bin Laden-Richard Miniter)

+ On March 31, Clinton had sex with Lewinsky. (Starr Report)

+ On May 18, bin Laden boarded a chartered plane in Khartoum with his wives, children, some 150 al-Qaida jihadists and a cache of arms - and flew off to Jalalabad, Afghanistan. (Losing bin Laden-Richard Miniter)

+ 1998- There had been numerous earlier reports of bin Laden's interest in using aircraft for terror attacks, including a 1998 plot to fly an explosives-laden plane from a foreign country into the World Trade Center. (Curt Anderson, Associated Press Writer)

+ Sunday, April 4, 2004- The ranking Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee said Sunday that President Clinton's affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky compromised U.S. national security because it left him unable to deal with the threat posed by al-Qaida.

"What really happened here, I think, is President Clinton's greatest mistake was Monica Lewinsky,"Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., told Fox News Sunday. "And that forced him to take his eye off the ball. He lost the ability to lead the nation."


36 posted on 09/11/2006 6:47:15 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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"It ends with actor Donnie Wahlberg, portraying the head of the CIA team in Afghanistan, saying: "Are there no men in Washington, or are they all cowards?
37 posted on 09/11/2006 6:47:37 AM PDT by is_is (VPD of Lcpl Daniel - 2/5 - Sleep Well America.....My Marine has your Back)
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