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Russia's interest in Africa is another step to end USA's global domination (Pravda article)
Pvrada ^ | September 9, 2006 | Vladimir Anokhin

Posted on 09/10/2006 10:58:56 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued

High-tech cooperation will give Russia an opportunity to enter the African market through South Africa. Moscow tries to retrieve its erstwhile influence on the African continent, preparing to face tough competition with world's leading countries. President Vladimir Putin arrived in Cape Town to solve these issues.

The visit to Africa, which Putin started Tuesday, was initiated with the development of the global economic system, from which Russia was gradually falling out during the recent decade. The Russian administration started formulating its geopolitical interests openly only a short time ago.

Slowly but surely the existence of the unipolar world is drawing to an end. The sweeping development of new centers of influence in Southeast Asia, China and India, the activity of the Muslim world and Russia testify to the creation of new political and economic forces in the world. Each of those forces is in need of new markets and resources to be able to develop and strengthen further on.

Moscow lost its influence in Africa for 15 years. The results of the fierce political struggle between the world's strongest superpowers in the 1960s and the 1970s returned no results for Russia. Nowadays Russia is returning to Africa. It goes without saying that the Russian government will have to fight with both traditional competitors and new rivals who have already entered the African market: China, Mideastern countries and Latin American states

(Excerpt) Read more at english.pravda.ru ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: africa; antiamericanaxis; chicoms; china; coldwar2; communism; kgb; putin; russia; soviets; sovietunion; ussr
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1 posted on 09/10/2006 10:58:58 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: SandRat; river rat; wagglebee; Navy Patriot

The sleeping Red Bear is awakening. This could become a problem in the coming years.


2 posted on 09/10/2006 11:00:02 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: Clintonfatigued

one finger points to the US, the remaining point where to the real "imperialists."


3 posted on 09/10/2006 11:00:19 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("Let's Roll!")
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To: Clintonfatigued

HUH? This is utterly bizzar. Like we care? Africa is an irrelevent cesspool. Let them and the French fight over it.

Seems old Russians Commies never die, just get a job at Ne Pravda.


4 posted on 09/10/2006 11:01:22 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? Samurai? Fascists?)
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To: Clintonfatigued

First, let the Russian people has 10% of our standards of living then they may have a 0.0001% chance of competing with the US on the global level.


5 posted on 09/10/2006 11:01:40 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: the invisib1e hand; Cicero; Joe Boucher

"one finger points to the US"

That's nothing new.


6 posted on 09/10/2006 11:02:20 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Mercantilist nonsense.

If the Russians really believe that mercantilism works, then they are even in worse shape than I thought.

7 posted on 09/10/2006 11:06:52 AM PDT by denydenydeny
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To: The Invisible Hand
one finger points to the US, the remaining point where to the real "imperialists."

Yeah, if anyone's imperailistic here, it's the Russkies. THEY were the ones who annexed the Baltic states; Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia, THEY were the ones who took away half of Finland's land through invasion, THEY were the ones who invaded Czechoslovakia and Hungary, THEY were the ones who forced 14 other nations into their Soyuza Sovyetsky only to send half their citizens to the gulag.
8 posted on 09/10/2006 11:07:06 AM PDT by G8 Diplomat
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To: G8 Diplomat; A. Pole

Very well-stated.


9 posted on 09/10/2006 11:11:39 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: Clintonfatigued; Romanov

This is old news.

Russia started beating the "anti- colonial" drum in the 20's - and does anyone remember a Kremlin funded revolution in a little country off the coast of North Africa ---called Spain?


10 posted on 09/10/2006 11:11:58 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: spanalot

I read about some of it, and the backlash against it resulted in a Fascist government ruling the nation for decades.


11 posted on 09/10/2006 11:14:49 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: Clintonfatigued

And Fascism in Europe, too


12 posted on 09/10/2006 11:18:57 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: Clintonfatigued
Anyone who has been in Russia since the collapse of the Soviet Union -- would not fear them as much as before..

The place is a mess.. Incompetence, drunkenness and laziness is the "norm"... Public sector corruption is rampant.. Businessmen can be counted on to over-promise and under-perform, and not meet schedules, costs or quality requirements.. Crime is widespread and the Russian Mafia in places is more powerful than the "Government"...

It appears as though the "best" of Russia has left, to make a life for themselves outside of Russia.

Russia's selection of "friends" in the middle east hasn't encouraged foreign investment...

Russia must now "team" with China, Islamists and the new communists of South America to project any "heat"..

The "Bear" is anemic..

Semper Fi
13 posted on 09/10/2006 11:34:49 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
USA has little dominance in South Africa. Many South Africans migrating to the USA. The way I see it we are sucking out the most productive part of their economy.

Up to a few years ago South Africa seemed to be one the most independent of any nation I could think of. As for their situation today, I can't think of anything the USA has to do with it.

I wonder how the Russian Mafia will fare in the country side.

14 posted on 09/10/2006 12:07:07 PM PDT by oyez (The way to punish a providence is to allow it to be governed by philosophers. --Frederick the Great)
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To: the invisib1e hand
History shows that Russia has always been late getting into the colonialism business. When colonialism be came a bad word they just called it liberation.
15 posted on 09/10/2006 12:13:23 PM PDT by oyez (The way to punish a providence is to allow it to be governed by philosophers. --Frederick the Great)
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To: oyez

Can anyone estimate the amount of $$$ the U.S. has poured into Africa over the centuries to no avail? I say, let the Russians have it. Maybe they can civilize the place, but I doubt it.


16 posted on 09/10/2006 12:43:30 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: oyez
Is there a difference between colonialism and imperialism? We call what we are doing liberation, and everyone else insists it's "imperialism."

Of course, the smaller the world gets, the less room there is for Liberty to coexist with oppression or statism. That is the undercurrent of our times.

I happen to think Russia is putting the hammer down, and using these "islamic" psychopaths to do their guerrilla advance work. I think they are using economic means as the employed so successfully in Russia. I think they have manipulated the price of oil directly and through satellites. I think it's imperative we fight them on every front successfully.

17 posted on 09/10/2006 1:56:57 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("Let's Roll!")
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To: Clintonfatigued
That's nothing new.

No, but it's the remainder pointing back that I wish to highlight.

18 posted on 09/10/2006 1:57:42 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("Let's Roll!")
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To: river rat

I know two people who have been to the old Soviet Union..one of them is my German teacher


19 posted on 09/10/2006 2:14:48 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat
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To: WVNan

Africans the get civilized, i.e. educated and have economic ability relocate to an entirely different continent. What is the point of building a business or an industry so the thugs can either destroy it or take it away.


20 posted on 09/10/2006 3:11:39 PM PDT by oyez (The way to punish a providence is to allow it to be governed by philosophers. --Frederick the Great)
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