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Tortured screams ring out as Iraqis take over Abu Ghraib ["The Americans were better...]
The Sunday Telegraph (UK) ^ | 9/10/06 | Ali Saber and Gethin Chamberlain

Posted on 09/09/2006 5:33:23 PM PDT by saquin

The notorious Abu Ghraib prison in Baghdad is at the centre of fresh abuse allegations just a week after it was handed over to Iraqi authorities, with claims that inmates are being tortured by their new captors.

Inside the 100-yard long cell block the smell of excrement was overpowering. Four to six prisoners shared each of the 12ft by 15ft cells along either side and the walls were smeared with filth. The cell block was patrolled by guards who carried long batons and shouted angrily at the prisoners to stand up.

Access to the part of the prison containing terrorism suspects was denied, but from that block came the sound of screaming. The screaming continued for a long time.

"I am sure someone was being beaten, they were screaming like they were being hit," the witness reported. "I felt scared, I was asking what was happening in the terrorist section.

"I heard shouting, like someone had a hot iron on their body, screams. The officer said they were just screaming by themselves. I was hearing the screams throughout the visit."

The witness said that even in the thieves' section prisoners were being treated badly. "Someone was shouting 'Please help us, we want the human rights officers, we want the Americans to come back'," he said.

Prisoners interviewed in the presence of their jailers said they were frightened for their safety. They complained that chicken and milk had been cut from their rations, leaving them on rice and water. They also complained about the oppressive heat.

Outside the prison, relatives of some of the inmates said they were being tortured by their captors. One woman, who gave her name as Omsaad, said: "My son Saad [who was arrested in Fallujah as a suspected insurgent] said he is being tortured by the Iraqis to confess the name of his leader. I met my son and he told me they were being treated badly by the Iraqis."

Haleem Aleulami, who was released from the jail last week, three weeks after being arrested in Ramadi for carrying a pistol in his car, said the Americans had treated him better when they ran the jail. He claimed that visits from the International Red Cross staff had dried up and accused local human rights workers of being members of Shia groups who turned a blind eye to problems in the jail.

"The people are Iraqis and they are members of the Sciri and al Dawa parties. They have a good relationship with the leaders of the jail and they keep quiet," he said. The guards swore at the ordinary prisoners, he said, but those in the terrorist section were treated more brutally.

"The guards were swearing at us, but in the terrorist section they were beating them. I heard it all the time. Everyone knows what is happening."

And Khalid Alaani, who was also picked up in Ramadi suspected of involvement in Sunni terrorism, said: "We preferred the Americans. We asked to move with them to Baghdad airport because we knew the treatment would be changed because we know what the Iraqis are. When the Americans left everything changed."

Staff at the jail said that the prisoners were allowed out from their cells for only 15 to 20 minutes a day because of the danger from the regular mortar attacks. They are no longer allowed access to the main hall where the Americans had allowed them to watch television and the room is now reserved for the use of officers and guards. Staff explained that the air conditioning in the cell blocks had broken, although it was working in their quarters.

One officer, Capt Ali Abdelzaher, said: "We have a problem with the financing for the food, not like the Americans, and there is a technical problem with the air conditioning."

Capt Abdelzaher also confirmed that a number of inmates had been transferred from the Jadriyah detention centre, along with their guards and interrogators.

Graphic stories of abuse at that previously secret facility emerged after US soldiers found 169 prisoners showing signs of torture last November.

Most of the prisoners held by the Americans at Abu Ghraib were either released in recent months or transferred to a new £32 million detention centre at Camp Cropper near Baghdad International Airport.

Yesterday, the International Red Cross confirmed that its visits to the prison had been suspended since January 2005 on security grounds.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abughraib; bleedinghearattack; gwot; iraq; nuketheleft; schadenfreude; waronterror; wot
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To: Alouette
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141 posted on 09/10/2006 10:31:25 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: no dems
"I don't see how guards could stand the smell of human excrement. Why not at least make the prisoners keep the place clean? I mean, torture them in a clean cell rather than a stinky cell."

If they've got proper floor drains installed, all they have to do is hose the place down with a firehose, and both clean things up, and prep the perps for the next interrogation.
142 posted on 09/10/2006 10:47:37 AM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: KantianBurke
You're assuming that the Iraqi's have the tax base and the public support to treat their criminals humanely. Most middle eastern countries do not.

Their religion demands harsh treatment (including beheading) for criminals. Have you not read about the death sentences for changing religions from Islam? Or honor killings? Or the 27 executions they just had at that prison?

We did not go to Iraq to make it a middle eastern America. We went to enforce UN mandated sanctions. The Iraqi's will govern how they wish to.
143 posted on 09/10/2006 11:19:11 AM PDT by waud
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP; ntnychik; dixiechick2000; Jeff Head; DoughtyOne; bitt; ...








144 posted on 09/10/2006 11:24:21 AM PDT by devolve (---------------- - and I'm reporting for booty! -)
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To: i_dont_chat
Where are the women's panties now?

I'm going to post this again.

Women's panties have the potential to be the most effective interrogation tool (when questioning men) in human existence.

Examiner: Now, Mohammed, we've talked a little, and recently you have become very uncooperative.

So were're going to change the rules.

We're going to take you into another room for a conversation.

And there, we will put women's panties on your head.

But...

it is *your* responses which will decide how we act.

If you play straight with us, it will be Anna Kournikova's panties.

If not...








ROSIE O'DONNELL!!!

Cheers!

145 posted on 09/10/2006 11:32:59 AM PDT by grey_whiskers
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To: antonia
In his three years at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, Abdul Rahim Muslim Dost invented ways to write poetry. Dost, 44, read from his works recently at his home in Peshawar, Pakistan. (Declan Walsh for the Boston Globe)

I write this for Allah, moon-god:
Though you Westerners think it is odd
If this poetry sells
I can kill infidels
Derka Derka, Mohammed, jihad!

146 posted on 09/10/2006 11:37:36 AM PDT by grey_whiskers
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To: saquin
What's that old saying, "Be careful what you wish for"? LOL! Pliers and blowtorches BUMP.
147 posted on 09/10/2006 11:38:05 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Democrats. French, but more cowardly.)
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To: TN4Liberty
Quite - all the indications are that the terrorists are rioting by purposefully making the place a pigsty and by yelling a lot, and the guards have responded by not giving a damn about maintenance and limiting their diet. A typical tug of war, and guess who eventually wins?
148 posted on 09/10/2006 11:44:25 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: devolve

LOL, you had already been busy and I hadn't got to it yet!!

Fiery too!


149 posted on 09/10/2006 11:45:28 AM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Alouette

Click here for appropriate music.

Cheers!

150 posted on 09/10/2006 11:46:52 AM PDT by grey_whiskers
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To: no dems
The prisoners are having a "throw poop and yell" riot. The guards respond by staying out, reducing the rations, and not fixing the AC. They aren't torturing anybody, they are watching TV in the ACed common rooms with the volume up loud, ignoring the prisoners. A typical non-western prison scene.
151 posted on 09/10/2006 11:48:12 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: saquin

Maybe they should seek out NYT reporters over there and take up their problems with the press.


152 posted on 09/10/2006 11:52:04 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: JasonC

Agreed. I don't think it was the guards who smeared "filth" on the walls.


153 posted on 09/10/2006 12:04:14 PM PDT by TN4Liberty (Sixty percent of all people understand statistics. The other half are clueless.)
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To: potlatch

Wake up!

154 posted on 09/10/2006 12:04:54 PM PDT by devolve (---------------- - and I'm reporting for booty! -)
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To: devolve

I am wide awake devolve, did I miss something?


155 posted on 09/10/2006 12:09:23 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: grey_whiskers
In his three years at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, Abdul Rahim Muslim Dost invented ways to write poetry. Dost, 44, read from his works recently at his home in Peshawar, Pakistan. (Declan Walsh for the Boston Globe)

I write this for Allah, moon-god:
Though you Westerners think it is odd
If this poetry sells
I can kill infidels
Derka Derka, Mohammed, jihad!

Perfect!

156 posted on 09/10/2006 12:34:51 PM PDT by antonia (Build the Wall Now! likelytool.com)
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To: ChessExpert

Khalid Alaani is not an Iraqi."

Church lady voice on --- Oh, just decided to come to Iraq to have a bang of a good time, eh, Alaani the Jihadi? And now you dont like the welcome from Iraqi guards? ... ISN'T THAT SPECIAL.


157 posted on 09/10/2006 1:16:52 PM PDT by WOSG (Broken-glass time, Republicans! Save the Congress!)
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To: potlatch


No!

I did!


158 posted on 09/10/2006 2:51:37 PM PDT by devolve (---------------- - and I'm reporting for booty! -)
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To: saquin

MUCH IMPROVED, I see..! ;)


159 posted on 09/10/2006 2:58:06 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: saquin

But I thought all along by the Democrat talking points it was the Americans who were using unusual punishment.
Oh well, you just can't believe everything you read.


160 posted on 09/10/2006 2:59:54 PM PDT by buck61
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