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Check from a scammer bounces victim into jail
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | Wednesday, August 30, 2006 | David Lazarus

Posted on 09/08/2006 12:00:05 PM PDT by Shimmer128

San Francisco resident Matthew Shinnick tried to sell a pair of mountain bikes on Craigslist late last year. He attracted a buyer, received a check in the mail -- and ended up handcuffed by police in a downtown Bank of America branch and jailed for almost 12 hours.

BofA calls the bizarre episode "an unfortunate series of events" and says that "clearly and without equivocation, Bank of America regrets what occurred." But the bank says it was only doing its duty by notifying the cops when a bad check surfaced.

It also says Shinnick has no grounds to sue for thousands of dollars in legal costs because of a 2004 state Supreme Court decision that shields institutions and people from liability when reporting suspected crimes to the police.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banking; bofa; falsearrest; scams
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To: monday
So California has become a police state where false accusations against people are allowed? Whats to stop this guy from calling the police and accusing the bank manager of being a child molester? He could say he thought he looked like a sketch he saw of a perpetrator on Americas Most Wanted.

Apparently that sort of thing is allowed in California although it wouldn't fly anywhere else in the country. It's everywhere. Allegation, standing alone, is probable cause. The natural malignant outgrowth of a concept introduced to police work intended to combat domestic violence.

41 posted on 09/08/2006 1:07:46 PM PDT by dasboot
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To: Shimmer128

No matter the California Supreme Court rulings, this guy is still entitled, under federal law, to due process, civil rights, and false imprisonment relief. Just take it to federal court and sue the pants off BofA, the cops who jailed him, (someone had to press charges, probably the bank's manager), and also file claims for loss of reputation, public humiliation, etc,. etc., etc. They will pay you to go away if you handle these assclowns in a manner they will come to understand!


42 posted on 09/08/2006 1:09:47 PM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: steveo
I think someone will soon post who is to blame...

Do tell ...

From the story, it's either the bank or the police. Either the bank made a false police report, for which they should be liable civilly to Mr. Shinnick (and criminally if they did it deliberately), or the police overreacted grossly, in which case the city should have to fork over. I'd love to see the latter happen! Order Gavin Newsom to apologize publicly while handing over the damages check!

And if the California Supremes disagree, they should all be recalled!

43 posted on 09/08/2006 1:13:03 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: wolfcreek

What mistake did the bank make? They called polce when they received a fraudulent check.


44 posted on 09/08/2006 1:15:55 PM PDT by BJClinton (What happens on Free Republic, stays on Google.)
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To: Shimmer128

BOA sucks. Anyone doing business with BOA is crazy. How do I know? Personal experience. Stay the heck away from BOA if you want good customer service and someone to talk to when you call the bank. You will get neither from the BOA.
They are as/more bureaucratic maniacal as the fed.gov.


45 posted on 09/08/2006 1:32:43 PM PDT by takenoprisoner
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To: stinkerpot65
I'm with Washington Mutual now. Much better than BOA. Me, too. My BofA horror story was when they credited me with someone else's deposit and then accused me of fraud for their mistake!!!! When they told me that I had to pay a bunch of fees or face prosecution I took the matter to a friend at the US Attorney's office and he made a phone call and asked them if they were serious. They said they were. He then asked the person at theother end of the phone how they'd like to spend the next twenty years as a guest of the Federal Government for extortion and a number of other charges. The matter was miraculously resolved before my friend got off the phone. I also received a wrtten apology about how even though they have "double custody" for deposits that an "honest mistake" was made. Yeah, right. WAMU has been my bank ever since and their customer service is unbelievably amazing - not at all what I expect from a bank. I just can't say enough about them.
46 posted on 09/08/2006 1:37:52 PM PDT by PeterFinn (Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for.)
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To: Fury
Over the years banks look for ways to increase NSF charges. It give the appearance they are loan sharks in disguise waiting for you to overdraw.
47 posted on 09/08/2006 1:47:10 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: BJClinton

What mistake did the bank make?


The bank should have known immediantly if the check was bad and refused deposit. Sounds like a lazy teller to me. Having one of their customers, who was basically an innocent party, arrested was their second mistake. Let me guess who got these no-liability laws passed?


48 posted on 09/08/2006 1:48:00 PM PDT by wolfcreek (You can spit in our tacos and you can rape our dogs but, you can't take away our freedom!)
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"The court wants to protect people when reporting criminal activity," said Paul Glusman, a Berkeley attorney who has written about the Hagberg case. "But this can be abused. At this point, there's nothing that will protect ordinary citizens from a false police report."

hehehe Welcome to the PSofA...Police State of America.


49 posted on 09/08/2006 1:56:57 PM PDT by takenoprisoner
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To: Shimmer128

This illustrates the wonderful thing about a free market. B of A has no legal liability, by they will lose lots of customers for their failure to handle this better.


50 posted on 09/08/2006 2:09:23 PM PDT by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: 1rudeboy
What I don't understand is how the victim spent $14K to clear his own name.

You've never been wrongfully attacked through the legal system, have you?

51 posted on 09/08/2006 2:10:26 PM PDT by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: Larry Lucido
They did nothing wrong.

Actually they did quite a bit wrong from a customer service point of view. They failed to make a good faith effort to determine the facts of the situation, before overreacting.

52 posted on 09/08/2006 2:12:38 PM PDT by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: 3niner

No, I've never been detained for 12 hours and had the charges dropped within 24.


53 posted on 09/08/2006 2:14:13 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: PeterFinn

My Bank of America peeve is that when you deposit a large check, even a cashier's check, their policy is to make you wait a long time, perhaps 10 days, for funds availability, even if the deposit clears in a day. It is a scam pure and simple. I won't make the mistake of depositing a large check there anymore - Wachovia is much more customer-friendly...


54 posted on 09/08/2006 2:15:06 PM PDT by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: PeterFinn

Bank of America will ruin your life. Amen on Washington Mutual. They are the best I've ever had.


55 posted on 09/08/2006 2:15:21 PM PDT by stinkerpot65
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To: 3niner

I think the cops and prosecutors over-reacted. Have to respectfully disagree with you on BoA, though. If someone is at the counter trying to cash a stolen check, ya gotta make the call. I'd say the same thing if someone tried to pass a counterfeit $100.00.


56 posted on 09/08/2006 2:21:07 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: willyd

Below is a link to congressional testimony by a BofA Senior VP in Houston, regarding the "matricula consular" identification card, which is accepted at BofA for illegal aliens.

Amazing........

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:gbU4cx-Lr00J:143.231.169.144/pdf/ACF13F.pdf+%22bank+of+america%22+houston+%22sylvia+castillo%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=3


57 posted on 09/08/2006 2:23:48 PM PDT by Husker8877
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To: Larry Lucido

Shinnick, it appears, was a victim of the classic "Nigerian 419" scam...

Moron!


58 posted on 09/08/2006 2:23:59 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Shimmer128

even with immunity, negligence does become culpable.

12 hours in a jail is still a strict scrutiny test.


59 posted on 09/08/2006 2:24:36 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

Yep, Mohammed Abacha, the son of the late Nigerian Energy Minister, warned me about that when I wired him my bank account information to get my share of his $10 million inheritance.


60 posted on 09/08/2006 2:31:50 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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