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War Turns Southern Women Away From GOP
breitbart.com ^ | 09/07/2006 | SHANNON McCAFFREY

Posted on 09/07/2006 7:33:04 AM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99

MACON, Ga.

President Bush's once-solid relationship with Southern women is on the rocks. "I think history will show him to be the worst president since Ulysses S. Grant," said Barbara Knight, a self-described Republican since birth and the mother of three. "He's been an embarrassment." In the heart of Dixie, comparisons to Grant, a symbol of the Union, is the worst sort of insult, especially from a Macon woman who voted for Bush in 2000 but turned away in 2004.

In recent years, Southern women have been some of Bush's biggest fans, defying the traditional gender gap in which women have preferred Democrats to Republicans. Bush secured a second term due in large part to support from 54 percent of Southern female voters while women nationally favored Democrat John Kerry, 51-48 percent.

"In 2004, you saw an utter collapse of the gender gap in the South," said Karen Kaufmann, a professor of government at the University of Maryland who has studied women's voting patterns. White Southern women liked Bush because "he spoke their religion and he spoke their values."

Now, anger over the Iraq war and frustration with the country's direction have taken a toll on the president's popularity and stirred dissatisfaction with the Republican-held Congress.

Republicans on the ballot this November have reason to worry. A recent Associated Press-Ipsos poll found that three out of five Southern women surveyed said they planned to vote for a Democrat in the midterm elections. With control of the Senate and House in the balance, such a seismic shift could have dire consequences for the GOP.

Democrats need to gain 15 seats in the House and six in the Senate to seize control.

In a sign of how crucial races in the South will be to the GOP national strategy, Bush was traveling to Georgia on Thursday to help former Rep. Max Burns raise money in his bid to unseat Democratic Rep. John Barrow. The president also will give a speech in Atlanta.

Knight lives in another congressional district considered competitive. Republicans hope to oust Democratic Rep. Jim Marshall, whose district was redrawn by the GOP-controlled Georgia Legislature to make it more conservative.

Voters like Knight could prove to be spoilers. The 66-year-old real estate agent doesn't particularly like Marshall, a hawkish Democrat and former Army Ranger, but she said she'll vote for him because she likes his conservative Republican opponent, former Rep. Mac Collins, even less.

"I'm going to go for the moderate, and these days that tends to be Democrats," Knight said.

Sandy Rubin, a high school teacher in Macon, voted for Bush and said she's also likely to vote for Marshall. Rubin said the GOP's focus on issues that appeal to social conservatives, such as gay marriage and abortion, have turned her off.

"I care about job security and education. The things I hear the Republicans emphasizing in their campaigns are not things that affect me or my family," said the 39-year-old mother of two.

The movement of some Southern women away from the Republican Party tracks with national poll results showing that women have become more disillusioned with the war and were more likely than men to list the conflict as the important issue facing the country.

Nationally, the AP-Ipsos poll found that only 28 percent of women approve of Bush's handling of the war. Bush did better in the South, but only slightly _ just 32 percent of women in the region said they approve of his handling of the war.

"I never did understand why we went into Iraq and didn't instead clean up the mess in Afghanistan first," Knight said.

Teresa Cranford, 39, also of Macon, said her support for Bush was lukewarm in 2004, but she ultimately voted for him so he could finish the job in Iraq. As the death toll has risen, so has her discomfort.

"I'm a mother and that makes me think differently about it," Cranford said.

Lynn Hamilton, 44, said she still supports Bush even though her backing for the ongoing war has waned.

"As a mother you worry, 'Am I going to lose my baby boy?'" said the Gray, Ga., resident. "A mother's view about war is often going to be a lot different than dad's is."

Neither Cranford nor Hamilton has decided how they plan to vote in the midterm elections, although neither ruled out voting for a Democrat.

"I'm not a straight party-line Republican anymore," Cranford said.

Still, some Southern women remain stalwart supporters of the president and the Republican Party. At a watermelon festival in Chickamauga, in the mountains of northwest Georgia, substitute teacher Clydeen Tomanio said she remains committed to the party she's called home for 43 years.

"There are some people, and I'm one of them, that believe George Bush was placed where he is by the Lord," Tomanio said. "I don't care how he governs, I will support him. I'm a Republican through and through."


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2006; baaaarffff; democrats; dixie; gop; jebeddyrepublicans; mediawhores; midterms; phoniesonmsmrolodex; propaganda; southernvote; womensvote
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

"What would President Sooner1938 have done differently?"

Numbers 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 and 9 - I would have vetoed ANY piece of legislation that contained ANY earmarked spending.

Number 10 - I would NOT have invaded Iraq which, after all, did not constitute a serious threat to U.S. security interests.


61 posted on 09/07/2006 9:23:30 AM PDT by Sooner1938 (Disgusted)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

Another point, what southern states were used? I am from Alabama, have 2 wonderful Senators and for the most part great representatives. This makes me alot happier with the GOP, helps their image. But I bet most of the southern women polled were from states where their politicians don't have as much backbone. :)


62 posted on 09/07/2006 9:25:21 AM PDT by EmilyGeiger
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To: Scotsman will be Free

"If you are going to vote based on emotion then perhaps you should lose your franchise.
Failing to vote because "all the choices sucked" is just the same as letting go of the car's steering wheel when confronted with the choice of hitting a moose or a dog. I do not want to hit anything, but I'll take the dog over the moose everyday."

I imagine I was voting when you were still in diapers. I'm far better informed about politics than about 98% of Americans.

I'm also a very careful driver and do not hit either dogs OR moose when in a car. So I don't have to make that choice of which to hit.


63 posted on 09/07/2006 9:28:30 AM PDT by Sooner1938 (Disgusted)
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To: neocon1984

"Frankly you irritate me more than the BDS anti-American leftists because you should know enough to take a stand for your country."

I took a stand. While you neo-cons were demonstrating in the streets against our Vietnam involvement, I was spending two tours in that country getting shot at. Quite frankly, I have come to believe I wasted my 25 years of military service defending jerks like you.


64 posted on 09/07/2006 9:33:13 AM PDT by Sooner1938 (Disgusted)
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To: Sooner1938

I'd agree on 1-9.

But number 10 sounds like it comes straight out of the Democrat Playbook as written by Michael Moore.

Tell me why exactly Iraq wasn't a threat.


65 posted on 09/07/2006 9:44:57 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: Sooner1938

That's depressing.....reading your angry posts here, I'll now refer to you as "Gooner". I have a zero-U graduate aunt who is about your age....she's also sickenly liberal.


66 posted on 09/07/2006 9:49:57 AM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: Sooner1938

Oh! Did you know John Kerry was also in Viet Nam? What a coinkydink!


67 posted on 09/07/2006 9:52:08 AM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
"I think history will show him to be the worst president since Ulysses S. Grant," said Barbara Knight, a self-described Republican since birth

Now why don't I believe her? /sarcasm

68 posted on 09/07/2006 10:11:15 AM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
"I never did understand why we went into Iraq and didn't instead clean up the mess in Afghanistan first," Knight said.

Er, we did, Mrs. Knight.

69 posted on 09/07/2006 10:15:00 AM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: Sooner1938
I know, I know, all you blind Bushbots are now gonna accuse me of being a Dummicrat plant but you're wrong as hell.

Now I wouldnt do that.

BTW, whats your name over at DU? :-)

70 posted on 09/07/2006 10:24:32 AM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: Sooner1938
While you neo-cons were demonstrating in the streets against our Vietnam involvement, I was spending two tours in that country getting shot at.

Proof?

my 25 years of military service

Proof?

71 posted on 09/07/2006 10:37:30 AM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: Sooner1938
I'm far better informed about politics than about 98% of Americans.

Spoken like a true liberal. :-)

72 posted on 09/07/2006 10:41:56 AM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: highball
The lesser of two evils is still evil. Why not work for good instead?

Where is the "good"? Third parties aren't any better.

73 posted on 09/07/2006 10:48:44 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: lowbridge

You freakin' people are hopeless and deserve the screwing you're getting. Do any Bushbots do their own thinking or does Karl do all of it for you?

I'm beginning to understand why I decided to become a Libertarian.


74 posted on 09/07/2006 11:16:03 AM PDT by Sooner1938 (Disgusted)
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To: dfwgator

You vote for the man, not the party. Blind loyalty to a party has given us a GOP Congress that spends our money with a frivolity that would shame a Dim.


75 posted on 09/07/2006 11:17:55 AM PDT by highball (Proud to announce the birth of little Highball, Junior - Feb. 7, 2006!)
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To: highball

I wish there was a viable alternative but there just isn't. Look at what the Rats are trying to do to Lieberman, the last "Scoop Jackson" Democrat left.

The problem is as the Rats move further left, they drag the GOP leftward with them as moderates flee the Rat Party for the GOP.

There needs to be a split somewhere in the future in one of the parties.


76 posted on 09/07/2006 11:20:59 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Bitsy

Thank you, now get a few more southern belles to post as to their support of the Pres and we'll all be happy.


77 posted on 09/07/2006 12:31:09 PM PDT by Colt .45 (Navy Veteran - Thermo-Nuclear Landscapers Inc. "Need a change of scenery? We deliver!")
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To: Sooner1938

Something tells me you would have had trouble ever getting elected President.


78 posted on 09/07/2006 12:34:58 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

"Something tells me you would have had trouble ever getting elected President."

You're right. I say what I think, not what I think the doofuses out there want to hear, which is what 99% of politicians do.

If the clowns on this board represent what passes for Republicans nowadays, I can sure understand why the GOP is in deep doo-doo. From what I've read, very few of 'em are able to think for themselves.


79 posted on 09/07/2006 12:59:33 PM PDT by Sooner1938 (Disgusted)
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To: Sooner1938

I appreciate your courage and service to our country. Words cannot express the thanks we owe you. However, it is sad that you seem bitter about an awful lot of things.

Rush often makes the point that what differentiates liberals from conservatives is that liberals are perpetually unhappy and conservatives are perpetually optimistic. By his criteria, you have left the conservative movement. Sorry to see you go.


80 posted on 09/07/2006 12:59:42 PM PDT by neocon1984 (end the idiocy of post-modernism)
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