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For Conservative Muslims, Goal of Isolation a Challenge [Aw Jeez...]
Washington Post ^ | Sept. 5, 2006 | Caryle Murphy

Posted on 09/05/2006 9:20:05 AM PDT by Alouette

Twelve girls sat in rows at the front of the community room in Silver Spring's Muslim Community Center, calming their nerves with giggles and girl talk. In their sweaty hands, they held prepared speeches. On their heads, they wore scarves in a rainbow of colors: pink, brown, gold, white and lavender.

The seventh- and eighth-graders were competing in a debate on this question: Is a segregated, all-Islamic upbringing key to protecting your Muslim identity?

Eight of the dozen argued yes, using variants of the theme offered by Fatimah Waseem. Young Muslims "join with the non-Muslims, copy them and look up to them. This is hurting our identity. . . . Sometimes, we turn way from Islam," she said. "In conclusion, . . . we cannot sway in the wind and become weak. We need to be protected . . . by segregation."

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Does anyone else remember back in the day, when black-robed women lived in an isolated religious community, they were Roman Catholic nuns?
1 posted on 09/05/2006 9:20:07 AM PDT by Alouette
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2 posted on 09/05/2006 9:20:29 AM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 66-68)
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To: Alouette

I would suggest to them it would be easier to be "muslim" if they went back to whatever stone-age hell hole they came from.

Or perhaps reflect what practices of their culture made said stone age hell holes, stone age hell holes in the first palce.

Still mad at Joshua for not killing all of them.

Abraham, too, for that hand-maiden thing.


3 posted on 09/05/2006 9:26:04 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: Alouette

If the Muslims stayed in their isolated communities, that wouldn't be a problem. But, occasionally, they come out to wage jihad, and that's a problem.


4 posted on 09/05/2006 9:40:12 AM PDT by Excellence (Vote Dhimmocrat; you'll look in a burqa!)
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To: MeanWestTexan; Alouette

Are they hell bent on bringing new flocks to the fold? Is it not a sin to 'force' religious views on someone else?


5 posted on 09/05/2006 9:41:13 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: MeanWestTexan
They screwed up their own countries and now they are here trying to screw up ours. And we have to listen to them whine about it. And the Washington Post has to enable them in their whining. I would gladly offer them a "scholarship" in the form of a one-way ticket home for themselves and their families. If they want to live like that, let them live like that in their own ancestral hell-holes. This story ruined my breakfast. The precise point when I started to gag was the paragraph that starts out, "Their sense of beleagurement..." How about my sense of beleagurement every time I try to fly, or enter a government building, or look at the way the security measures have turned out beautiful Capital into an armed camp. The hell with them.
6 posted on 09/05/2006 9:42:44 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: Froufrou

"Is it not a sin to 'force' religious views on someone else?"

Actually, it is expressly a positive commandment for Islam to force their religion on others, by force or pain of death.

"Free will" is a Judeo-Christian value and concept.


7 posted on 09/05/2006 9:48:43 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: MeanWestTexan
re: Abraham, too, for that hand-maiden thing.))

Sad to say, that was Sarah's fault.

8 posted on 09/05/2006 9:48:50 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle

Well, he could have said, "No."


9 posted on 09/05/2006 9:51:19 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: 3AngelaD

What you said - two times.


10 posted on 09/05/2006 9:53:23 AM PDT by Cecily (`)
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To: MeanWestTexan

~sigh!~ I knew you were going to tell me that. :o(

Yellow hat buddhists are forbidden to solicit for their religion. I like that about them.


11 posted on 09/05/2006 9:55:39 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Alouette
It would be interesting to hear whan goes on behind closed doors in one of those 'centers'.

I'll bet they're not reciting the Pledge of Allegiance.
12 posted on 09/05/2006 9:56:26 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (What Darwin denied he now regrets)
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To: Alouette
Sometimes, we turn way from Islam," she said. "In conclusion, . . . we cannot sway in the wind and become weak. We need to be protected . . . by segregation."

You turn away from the death cult political system that is Islam because you are afforded religious FREEDOM in America. FREEDOM to leave any faith you with (without facing a DEATH PENALTY FOR COMMITTING BLASPHEMY AGAINST ISLAM). Until Islam shows tolerance for other faiths (ahem, the muslim only city of Mecca is certainly representative of Islam as all muslims must make a pilgrimage there) it should be looked at as the supremacist ideology that it has shown the potential to be.

13 posted on 09/05/2006 9:58:43 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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If they need to be protected by segregation, what's to stop them from moving away where they can live apart from everyone else?


14 posted on 09/05/2006 10:00:22 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Excellence
If the Muslims stayed in their isolated communities, that wouldn't be a problem.

Just the opposite. The reason we have so few acts of terrorism by homegrown Muslims is because so many have assimilated.

15 posted on 09/05/2006 10:02:00 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: 3AngelaD

"And the Washington Post has to enable them in their whining. I would gladly offer them a "scholarship" in the form of a one-way ticket home for themselves and their families. If they want to live like that, let them live like that in their own ancestral hell-holes."

I started thinking, what's the difference between segregationist Muslims and nuns in a convent or the Amish? Well, most of the isolationist groups still think of themselves as Americans for one and secondly they wouldn't strap a vest of bombs on themselves and kill a bunch of children for kicks.


16 posted on 09/05/2006 10:11:11 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: Froufrou
The question is "protected" from what?

It isn't protection from harassment. It is protection from "temptation to be like those in America".

It is separatist mindset of a group who don't want to associate with sub-human pig-monkeys.

They aren't the only religious enclaves in America. There are Amish, Shakers, Orthodox Jews, Mennonites but they do have less tolerance for those not of the group and those who leave the group.

The Amish permit their teens to "run wild" and then come to the community by choice as young adults.

When white supremacists claim their superiority and discuss the inferiority of others' "breeding", we are repulsed but somehow communities of muslims are exempted from such scrutiny.
17 posted on 09/05/2006 10:13:20 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: weegee

Yet they smell so bad, makes your eyes water.


18 posted on 09/05/2006 10:15:24 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: FastCoyote

The nuns in a convent make a sacramental bond with God, giving up their worldly possessions and temptations of the flesh. They bear no children (although they may care for orphaned children).

They choose to walk a path away from society, they know that everyone cannot be a nun or priest, people are needed to fill other roles in society (and that it is not a sign of character flaws or weakness to not walk that path).

Now if the nuns ran a purely Catholic community, with no non-Catholic neighbors, and excluded non-Catholics from parochial school, and shunned those who left the Catholic faith for other religions (Christian, non-Christian, or Atheism), and wanted to establish civil courts that would resolve matters by biblical law rather than local, state, and federal law, then they might be comparable.


19 posted on 09/05/2006 10:20:10 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: Alouette

Sounds like these folks might as well be part of The Wahhabi Corridor:
http://www.sperryfiles.com/corridor.shtml


20 posted on 09/05/2006 10:25:25 AM PDT by VOA
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