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A Michigan professor sent an e-mail telling Muslim students to leave the country
email | Indrek Wichman

Posted on 09/05/2006 5:41:09 AM PDT by concretebob

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Professor Wichman E-mail
Claim: A Michigan professor sent an e-mail telling Muslim students to leave the country
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Professor Wichman E-mail
Hooray for Michigan State University (The Spartans) and Professor Wichman!

Well, what do we have here. Looks like a small case of some people being able to dish it out, but not take it. Let's start at the top. The story begins at Michigan State University with a mechanical engineering professor named Indrek Wichman.

Wichman sent an e-mail to the Muslim Student's Association. The e-mail was in response to the students' protest of the Danish cartoons that portrayed the Prophet Muhammad as a terrorist. The group had complained the cartoons were "hate speech."

Enter Professor Wichman. In his e-mail, he said the following:

Dear Moslem Association:

As a professor of Mechanical Engineering here at MSU I intend to protest your protest.

I am offended not by cartoons, but by more mundane things like beheadings of civilians, cowardly attacks on public buildings, suicide murders, murders of Catholic priests (the latest in Turkey!), burnings of Christian churches, the continued persecution of Coptic Christians in Egypt, the imposition of Sharia law on non-Muslims, the rapes of Scandinavian girls and women (called "whores" in your culture), the murder of film directors in Holland, and the rioting and looting in Paris, France.

This is what offends me, a soft-spoken person and academic, and many, many, many of my colleagues. I counsel you dissatisfied, aggressive, brutal, and uncivilized slave-trading Moslems to be very aware of this as you proceed with your infantile "protests." If you do not like the values of the West -- see the 1st Amendment -- you are free to leave. I hope for God's sake that most of you choose that option.

Please return to your ancestral homelands and build them up yourselves instead of troubling Americans.

Cordially, I. S. Wichman Professor of Mechanical Engineering

As you can imagine, the Muslim group at the university didn't like this too well. They're demanding that Wichman be reprimanded and mandatory diversity training for faculty and a seminar on hate and discrimination for freshman. Now the Michigan chapter of CAIR has jumped into the fray. CAIR, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, apparently doesn't believe that the good professor had the right to express his opinion.

For its part, the university is standing its ground. They say the e-mail was private, and they don't intend to publicly condemn his remarks. That will probably change. Wichman says he never intended the e-mail to be made public and wouldn't have used the same strong language if he'd known it was going to get out.

How's the left going to handle this one? If you're in favor of the freedom of speech, as in the case of Ward Churchill, will the same protections be demanded for Indrek Wichman? I doubt it.

Send this to your friends, and ask them to do the same. Tell them to keep passing it around until the whole country gets it. We are in a war. This political correctness crap is getting old.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan; War on Terror
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To: concretebob; All
"I just did the same thing.
Lets all tell this man how much we appreciate his courage and intelligence."

That's you and I, and IIRC, someone else on this thread has done so...

ALL: OK, FRiends, get to typing! All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men (and women) to do nothing...

(OK, I'll add a "please" to that!)
81 posted on 09/05/2006 10:30:36 AM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: ItsForTheChildren
And Hezbollah didn't expect Israel to go to war. Not a very perceptive bunch, are they?

Unfortunately, they know the United States all too well.
They expect everyone to be like "Cut and run" Murtha and pelosi.
They know our own system will ultimately be our destruction, if we allow it.
PC will be the downfall of Western Civilization, unless people like Prof Wichman, and all the good people here at FR, and PW, speak out and take a stand.

82 posted on 09/05/2006 10:33:13 AM PDT by concretebob (We should give anarchists what they want. There'd be no jail-time for anything we do.)
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To: MHGinTN
Naw, but you can kiss Nagin's smarmy butt all you like in LA.

moron

83 posted on 09/05/2006 10:40:31 AM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: Ex-Dem

Well, free food works, especially for college students. Give me pizza, and I will go to a Commie meeting.


84 posted on 09/05/2006 10:41:29 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: grellis

MSU is not MU.


85 posted on 09/05/2006 10:44:33 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: RobbyS
MSU is not MU.

I think he was referring back to MSU being called "Moo U" when it was Michigan Agricultural College. I don't believe it became Michigan State University until shortly before I attended back in the 60's.

86 posted on 09/05/2006 11:07:42 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: Plutarch
All things considered it did not turn out so badly for King Leonidas and his 300 Spartans. Twenty-five hundred years later we still honor and praise them for their courage, loyalty, sense of duty and honor, convictions and for knowing that some things are worth fighting for and dying for.

These are lessons that many of our fellow citizens (dems) and Europeans allies have long forgotten.
88 posted on 09/05/2006 11:14:23 AM PDT by daviscupper
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To: Dave S

What I meant is that Michigan State is not the University of Michigan, the "Harvard" of the Midwest.


89 posted on 09/05/2006 11:19:04 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: daviscupper
Molon Laube..."Come and get them" I believe is the operative phrase for the honor and courage displayed by Leonidas.
I hope I remembered that correctly.
If I didn't, I'm sure I'll be corrected shortly.
90 posted on 09/05/2006 12:10:47 PM PDT by concretebob (We should give anarchists what they want. There'd be no jail-time for anything we do.)
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To: sandyeggo; sit-rep; reelfoot; Velveeta

Thanks to all of you for the BUMPS.


91 posted on 09/05/2006 12:15:20 PM PDT by concretebob (We should give anarchists what they want. There'd be no jail-time for anything we do.)
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To: RobbyS
What I meant is that Michigan State is not the University of Michigan

For one moment, when I first read the headline (A Michigan Professor...), I thought my alma mater might have a patriot on the staff. No such luck...leaving me in the uncomfortable position of having to salute E. Lansing, if even briefly :)

92 posted on 09/05/2006 12:25:59 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: concretebob; All

You forgot to add that we should contact the Presidednt of Michigan State University and let him/her know that we support and applaud Professor Wichman.


93 posted on 09/05/2006 12:30:58 PM PDT by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are intimate bedfellows)
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To: demkicker
Good Catch and great idea.
Doing so right now
94 posted on 09/05/2006 1:12:33 PM PDT by concretebob (We should give anarchists what they want. There'd be no jail-time for anything we do.)
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To: demkicker
You forgot to add that we should contact the Presidednt of Michigan State University and let him/her know that we support and applaud Professor Wichman.

Unless you are a resident of Michigan and preferably an alum, I don't think spamming the president with email is going to help the professor.

95 posted on 09/05/2006 1:50:59 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: Dolphy

Michigan has, unfortunately, become a clone of the IVY League. Effete is the word, I think.


96 posted on 09/05/2006 2:28:09 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Dave S
Unless you are a resident of Michigan and preferably an alum, I don't think spamming the president with email is going to help the professor.

It's called freedom of speech, bub, not spamming. One doesn't have to be a resident of Michigan to be concerned about possible and cumulative undue attacks on Prof Wichman. MYOB.

97 posted on 09/05/2006 3:44:22 PM PDT by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are intimate bedfellows)
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To: RobbyS; Dave S
MooU, referring to Michigan State University being, historically, an agricultural college. I take my kids to their farms a few times a year.

BTW, Dave--I'm a girl, but don't sweat it. Most freepers just think of me as one of the guys.

98 posted on 09/05/2006 4:22:32 PM PDT by grellis (I don't know, let me ask my I Ching)
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To: demkicker
?It's called freedom of speech, bub, not spamming. One doesn't have to be a resident of Michigan to be concerned about possible and cumulative undue attacks on Prof Wichman. MYOB.

I'm not denying you your freedom of speech. I just said the President of MSU will be more impressed by a few well written letters by MSU alumns (potential contributors. I thought the objective here was to protect the professor but if you just want to flout your clout, dont let me get in our way. If it makes you feel good, have at it.

99 posted on 09/05/2006 8:11:18 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: concretebob
I wonder how Pelosi would feel if she was forced to wear a burka?

Would she submit to Sharia?

100 posted on 09/05/2006 9:23:21 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (Rudy Giuliani is pro partial birth abortion...just ask Sean Hannity.)
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