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Rudy Hits the Campaign Trail - Is Giuliani vicious enough to win the Republican nomination?
www.slate.com ^ | Aug. 31, 2006 | John Dickerson

Posted on 09/04/2006 6:05:15 PM PDT by neverdem

With the fifth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks approaching, I thought it would be a good idea to check up on Rudy Giuliani. He is the last remaining political action figure from that tragedy, having left office at the top of his game, before anything like the Iraq war could tarnish him. After years of private-sector buck-raking, the mayor is back in campaign mode, traveling across the country to help Republican candidates and thinking about running for president.

But is he ready for the brutality of a presidential race? This would be the week for him to practice savaging Democrats. The GOP effort to caricature Iraq war opponents has become both more coordinated and more creative. Would the nation's mayor talk about appeasing terrorists as Defense Secretary Rumsfeld did? Or would he use Vice President Cheney's line about self-defeating pessimism? Would he at least dish out a little "cut and run?"

I drove Wednesday night through rush hour to see Giuliani in Potomac, Md., a wealthy Washington suburb and sanctuary for bad architecture. He was visiting a local restaurant with Maryland Lt. Gov. Michael Steele, who's running for Senate. Steele recently has been on the defensive about critical remarks he made about the Iraq war and Republican Congress. You couldn't tell that from the candidate's raucous supporters. (The event was hosted by the Women of Steele, an organization that sounds dangerously like a USW pinup calendar.) The cell phones and Treos went up like periscopes to photograph the two men as they struggled to wade through the packed room.

(Excerpt) Read more at slate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911fetish; angrypaleos; fifthanniversary; giuliani; hesgotmyvote; michaelsteele; overrated; phony; rino; rudy
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To: A CA Guy

I wonder if George Allen has announced...I don't think so but he is such a superb candidate.


21 posted on 09/04/2006 6:43:32 PM PDT by eleni121 (q; iran; etc.)
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To: Spiff
So I gather you will be pulling the lever for SHRILLARY! or algore in 2008.

Get used to it, he will be the next POTUS and he is a damn sight better than any democrat.

He WAS ON THE BUS IN FLORIDA with W the Sunday before election day in 2000 and has always campaigned for GOP canidates.

Your post is ridiculous and you will look foolish when it turns out you are not correctly staing his positions at all.

22 posted on 09/04/2006 6:44:34 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Uriah_lost

"He and McCain are DOA as presidential candidates. I actually wish that we would just make the conscious decision to ignore them and waste no more time or bytes on them."

Polls also say they are the two strongest against any democrat.

That don't mean anything, tho, huh?


23 posted on 09/04/2006 6:45:38 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: the invisib1e hand; neverdem
Is he vicious enough? He's more: He's smart enough.

I'll stay out of this fight for the time being, but I'll tell y'all one thing......there is NOBODY I'd rather see debate Hillary Rodman than Rudy.

She'd leave the venue with her scrotum shrunken.

24 posted on 09/04/2006 6:45:47 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Meep Meep)
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To: Uriah_lost

He and McCain are DOA as presidential candidates. I actually wish that we would just make the conscious decision to ignore them and waste no more time or bytes on them.



They maybe DOA as presidential candidates but please tell us who of the others has the appeal across party lines to win the nomination?...... Someone better get hoofing and quick if'n they are going to get the apparatus in place to run primary campaigns in the many states, set up the needed state organizations, secure the millions in funds necessary to pull it off, etc. etc. etc. I don't see any of the 'one issue' group as having that capability.

This maybe a strange primary season for the GOP. I do hope someone other than the current front runners can step up but it will be hard to do should either McCain or Giuliani get serious about running.


25 posted on 09/04/2006 6:45:53 PM PDT by deport
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To: eleni121

George Allen gets my vote.

Mine too...but he has got to win his current campaign for Senator.


26 posted on 09/04/2006 6:46:52 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: cayuga
correction

I choose not to a frog in the pot

I choose not to be a frog in the pot.

27 posted on 09/04/2006 6:46:57 PM PDT by cayuga (A 9mm is a .45 set to Stun. NRA-Life)
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To: eleni121

"George Allen gets my vote."

I second that........


28 posted on 09/04/2006 6:47:12 PM PDT by TheRobb7 (Real damage, real harm, to real people, to a real country, in time of war. ..all by the DNC.)
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To: neverdem
It's strange. I probably only agree with 25% of Rudy's positions on issues, but I love the guy. I would vote for him in a heart beat. However, I would feel better about it if Bush could make another SCOTUS appointment or two before he leaves office.
29 posted on 09/04/2006 6:47:19 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: neverdem

For those of you who didn't finish reading the article here is an excerpt from the end which shows that Giuliani thinks Murtha et. al. are good guys too.

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Time out," he said bringing his hands together to make a T. "Time out." The crowd quieted down. "The other thing we have to learn is that we can't get into this partisan bickering. The fact is that Republicans and Democrats have the same objectives. … Democrats are loyal Americans. Republicans are loyal Americans. I think we have better answers, but we have to respect each other."

This guy is never getting the nomination.
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I'm going to have to agree with the last line the author of this article wrote.


30 posted on 09/04/2006 6:47:53 PM PDT by kuma
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To: eleni121

I liked Allen too.
But he makes me nervous.

Does anyone know if Jeff Sessions has any interest in running?

He would be the perfect candidate.


31 posted on 09/04/2006 6:48:18 PM PDT by JRochelle (You can believe what you want, but you can't have your own facts!)
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To: neverdem

He'd have my vote


32 posted on 09/04/2006 6:48:23 PM PDT by RDTF ("We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us two.” Osama Bin laden)
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To: neverdem

Well he was viscious enough to take on the Mob and white collar crime at its highest level.

I think the real question is, can America get viscious enough for RUDY.LOL


33 posted on 09/04/2006 6:49:32 PM PDT by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!)
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To: neverdem

Don't really know..but if he had stayed in the NY Senate race to begin with then Hellary wouldn't be an issue today.


34 posted on 09/04/2006 6:49:59 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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To: oceanview
by who? who cares about that?

Those who value loyalty. Ask the guys who contributed to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth why they couldn't stand John Kerry.

He didn't have to endorse Pataki, but Der Fuhrer, who just became so popular because he happened to be mayor on September 11, 2001, goes and endorses uber liberal Mario Cuomo in 1994 and lifelong liberal Bloomberg to follow him in NYC.

When I think of Rudy, I think of three things: liberal RINO in the Rockefeller and Javits mode, statist and opportunist.

35 posted on 09/04/2006 6:50:01 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: ErnBatavia
Amen. I think Rudy is the only person hillary truly fears. It's psychological warfare with dems. And that fear will show, no matter how she tries to hide it.
36 posted on 09/04/2006 6:50:04 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness
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To: TimesDomain
Screw around in the primary all you want, but in the main election you have to vote for the Republican candidate over the Democrat.

If you throw away your vote to a Democrat or down some third party hole, you might as well tattoo "I got the democrat elected" on your backside IMO.

If there will be a more conservative main party candidate in the election, you better get them elected in the primary on the Republican ticket, at that point either a R or D will win. Split the R voting and you get a D result, which is what most libertarians try to do IMO.

37 posted on 09/04/2006 6:50:36 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: eleni121

I hope we get lots of good candidates going for it.


38 posted on 09/04/2006 6:52:56 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
Split the R voting and you get a D result, which is what most libertarians try to do IMO.

When has that happened? Maybe in some local races but on the Presidential level I don't remember a libertarian splitting the Republican party? Am I forgetting someone? I'd hardly call Ross Perot a libertarian nor would I call Buchannan a libertarian.

39 posted on 09/04/2006 6:55:42 PM PDT by rhombus
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To: small voice in the wilderness; All

You know the saying 'God works in myterious ways'? Rudy was all set to run for the senate seat and got cancer...he had to pull out and then Hillary ran and won. And what do ya know, 9/11 came, and Rudy led NY and most of the country when we needed it the most. Yes, God works in mysterious ways and I always remember this example when something bad happens in my life. I know God has a much better plan for me. I lived in NJ for years and saw every day on the news how Rudy fought organized crime and cleaned up NYC. God bless Rudy and I already know what I neeed to know, and that is that he can lead our country.


40 posted on 09/04/2006 6:55:56 PM PDT by RDTF ("We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us two.” Osama Bin laden)
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