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1 posted on 09/04/2006 8:42:38 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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2 posted on 09/04/2006 8:44:03 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Where are the anachronistic fossils?)
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Your state religion is safe from Vatican meddling for another season.


4 posted on 09/04/2006 8:45:06 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: PatrickHenry

Sure.

This is a 'non-story' since there wasn't any discussion about it to begin with.

It's like the MSM reporting 'Bush doesn't speak about Iraq at meeting today'.

If there's nothing to say or nothing planned, then the MSM gets in a snit because they were just 'sure' SOMETHING ABOUT IT would be addressed.

Like I said. NON-STORY.


6 posted on 09/04/2006 8:47:39 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: PatrickHenry

They might be Thomist. They are not interested in that Reformed stuff, which includes Paley.


8 posted on 09/04/2006 8:49:10 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: PatrickHenry

Just a press opportunity to assign the word "fail" to the Vatican.
Nevermind that the basis is simply the media's FAILURE to predict the agenda.


9 posted on 09/04/2006 8:54:33 AM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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Pope fails to address 'intelligent design'

and that is the appropriate response.....he knows that the lord works in mysterious ways...why not through evolution.

11 posted on 09/04/2006 9:15:44 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: PatrickHenry

I commend the Pope for not wasting any time on frivolous ID nonsense.


12 posted on 09/04/2006 9:26:22 AM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: PatrickHenry
"We did not really speak much about intelligent design," said Fessio...

After you've said: "Intelligent design is just the Logos theology of John's Gospel restated in the idiom of information theory," you've said it all.

15 posted on 09/04/2006 10:26:14 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: PatrickHenry

Not surprising, that as a former teacher the Pope would recognize ID for what it is.


20 posted on 09/04/2006 10:58:00 AM PDT by highball (Proud to announce the birth of little Highball, Junior - Feb. 7, 2006!)
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To: PatrickHenry
Pope "failed"?

Does he owe you anything?

21 posted on 09/04/2006 11:02:30 AM PDT by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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To: PatrickHenry
Surprise, surprise. The Vatican doesn't change its stance. Yawn. Amazing how the MSM loves to hype non-stories.
23 posted on 09/04/2006 11:27:28 AM PDT by curiosity
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Pope fails to address 'intelligent design' theory of evolution

Pope fails to address 'intelligent falling' theory of gravity

Pope fails to address 'intelligent eye rays' theory of vision

Pope fails to address 'intelligent softening' theory of pasta cooking

Pope fails to address 'intelligent decomposition' theory of death

28 posted on 09/04/2006 12:05:05 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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The Pope may be pondering how to fashion some homily or whatever the term is, that is more in tune with both science and the existence of a creator, as understood by Catholic theology, than ID is, as currently postured.
30 posted on 09/04/2006 12:28:18 PM PDT by Torie
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Imagine that: the media was wrong AGAIN.

No matter one's stance on the debate, we can all be happy the LameStream Media BLEW IT AGAIN!! BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

49 posted on 09/04/2006 1:29:32 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of "dependence on government"!)
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To: PatrickHenry
Pope Benedict and his former doctoral students spent a weekend pondering evolution without discussing controversies over intelligent design and creationism raging in the United States.
 

Ya think they ever opened up the BOOK during their 'pondering'???
 
 
Most Christians 'believe' Evolution because they do NOT know what their Bible says. 
If, as they say, they 'believe' the words of Jesus and the New Testament writers,
they have to decide what the following verses mean:
 
Acts 17:26-27
 26.  From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he determined the times set for them and the exact places where they should live.
 27.  God did this so that men would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from each one of us.
 
 
Romans 5:12-21
 12.  Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned--
 13.  for before the law was given, sin was in the world. But sin is not taken into account when there is no law.
 14.  Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who was a pattern of the one to come.
 15.  But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God's grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!
 16.  Again, the gift of God is not like the result of the one man's sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification.
 17.  For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God's abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ.
 18.  Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men.
 19.  For just as through the disobedience of the one man, the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
 20.  The law was added so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more,
 21.  so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
 
 
 
If there were  no one man, that means SIN did NOT enter the World thru him.
 
If Adam was NOT the one man, that means SPIRITUAL DEATH did not come thru him.
 
If SIN did NOT enter the World thru the one man, that means Jesus does not save from SIN.
 
 
Are we to believe that the one man is symbolic?  Does that mean Jesus is symbolic as well?
 
 
The Theory of Evolution states that there WAS no one man, but a wide population that managed to inherit that last mutated gene that makes MEN different from APES.
 
 
 Acts 17:24-26

 24.  "The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands.
 25.  And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything, because he himself gives all men life and breath and everything else.
 26.  From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he determined the times set for them and the exact places where they should live.

Was LUKE wrong about this?


 
 
1 Corinthians 11:8-9
 8.  For man did not come from woman, but woman from man;
 9.  neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.
 
1 Timothy 2:13
  For Adam was formed first, then Eve.  
 

 
 
Was Paul WRONG about these???
 

 
If so, is GOD so puny that He allows this 'inaccuracy' in His Word??
 
 
NIV Genesis 2:18
   The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I sure hope EVOLUTION will make a helper suitable for him!"
 
(Modern translation paraphrase.)


81 posted on 09/05/2006 1:51:11 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: PatrickHenry

Author in search of agenda!!!!!!

The Pope also failed to address;
- the U.S. National debt,
- Bird Flu,
- Sugar cane rust,
- Steve Irwin's death...(not important that it hadn't happened yet...)


108 posted on 09/06/2006 8:56:56 PM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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