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Pope fails to address 'intelligent design' theory of evolution
thisislondon.co.uk ^ | 04 September 2006 | Staff

Posted on 09/04/2006 8:42:37 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

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1 posted on 09/04/2006 8:42:38 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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2 posted on 09/04/2006 8:44:03 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Where are the anachronistic fossils?)
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To: StJacques

Ping.


3 posted on 09/04/2006 8:44:40 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Where are the anachronistic fossils?)
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To: PatrickHenry

Your state religion is safe from Vatican meddling for another season.


4 posted on 09/04/2006 8:45:06 AM PDT by JCEccles
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but the group plans to publish its discussion papers, said participant Father Joseph Fessio S.J.

...where are these types of proceedings usually published?

Cheers!

5 posted on 09/04/2006 8:47:13 AM PDT by grey_whiskers
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To: PatrickHenry

Sure.

This is a 'non-story' since there wasn't any discussion about it to begin with.

It's like the MSM reporting 'Bush doesn't speak about Iraq at meeting today'.

If there's nothing to say or nothing planned, then the MSM gets in a snit because they were just 'sure' SOMETHING ABOUT IT would be addressed.

Like I said. NON-STORY.


6 posted on 09/04/2006 8:47:39 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: PatrickHenry
Pope fails to address 'intelligent design' theory of evolution

If it's good enough for the Pope, it's good enough for me.

7 posted on 09/04/2006 8:48:49 AM PDT by phantomworker (A camel is a horse designed by committee. Sofa king crazy.)
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To: PatrickHenry

They might be Thomist. They are not interested in that Reformed stuff, which includes Paley.


8 posted on 09/04/2006 8:49:10 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: PatrickHenry

Just a press opportunity to assign the word "fail" to the Vatican.
Nevermind that the basis is simply the media's FAILURE to predict the agenda.


9 posted on 09/04/2006 8:54:33 AM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: PatrickHenry
Basically, their position is that TToE != atheism.
10 posted on 09/04/2006 9:11:13 AM PDT by ml1954 (ID = Case closed....no further inquiry allowed...now move along.)
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Pope fails to address 'intelligent design'

and that is the appropriate response.....he knows that the lord works in mysterious ways...why not through evolution.

11 posted on 09/04/2006 9:15:44 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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I commend the Pope for not wasting any time on frivolous ID nonsense.


12 posted on 09/04/2006 9:26:22 AM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: ml1954
True. Some religious denominations reject evolution, and others are okay with it. It's not a science issue at all.
The "Clergy Letter Project". 10,000 clergymen endorse evolution.
Statements from Religious Organizations. In favor of evolution.

There is also the recent statement opposing creationism by the Archbishop of Canterbury, leader of the 70-million-member Anglican Communion.

13 posted on 09/04/2006 9:26:55 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Where are the anachronistic fossils?)
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>> Pope fails to address 'intelligent design'

> and that is the appropriate response.....he knows that the lord works in mysterious ways...why not through evolution.

Yes, we were taught evolution in my Catholic school science class.

I learned from my 12 years of Catholic school that science is the way we understand the genius workings of God, and that the incurious acceptance of the non-explanation of "just because..." is a sin... of rejecting God's glorious gift of intellect.


14 posted on 09/04/2006 10:18:30 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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"We did not really speak much about intelligent design," said Fessio...

After you've said: "Intelligent design is just the Logos theology of John's Gospel restated in the idiom of information theory," you've said it all.

15 posted on 09/04/2006 10:26:14 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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After you've said: "Intelligent design is just the Logos theology of John's Gospel restated in the idiom of information theory," you've said it all.

Sounds like something Alamo-Girl might have said... :-)

Cheers!

16 posted on 09/04/2006 10:28:45 AM PDT by grey_whiskers
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To: grey_whiskers

It's a quote from Dembski. It does belie the idea that Intelligent Design isn't based on religion.


17 posted on 09/04/2006 10:34:39 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: VictoryGal
Very well said. Evolution and Christianity are not exclusive and you are right - deliberately refusing to use one's God given intellect really is a sin. By refusing to think, you have decided to reject one of God's gifts and you've made the decision to reject the special status God has given man amongst His creation.

I'm not an IDer or a Creationist, but I do know where science begins and religion ends. Evolution is quite likely manifestation of God's Creation. But that is a philosophical position. Not a scientific one. I really like the deep position your Catholic school took on the approach of science.

18 posted on 09/04/2006 10:47:11 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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I learned from my 12 years of Catholic school that science is the way we understand the genius workings of God,

exactly...and you have 2 years on me....

.........I went through the 10th grade then we moved to the burbs where the schools were better and I went 11-12 in regular public HS, but the parochial education was very good...

19 posted on 09/04/2006 10:50:19 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: PatrickHenry

Not surprising, that as a former teacher the Pope would recognize ID for what it is.


20 posted on 09/04/2006 10:58:00 AM PDT by highball (Proud to announce the birth of little Highball, Junior - Feb. 7, 2006!)
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