Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 3 September 2006

Various big media television networks ^ | 3 September 2006 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Alas Babylon!]

The Talk Shows

Sunday, September 3rd, 2006

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Sens. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., Elizabeth Dole, R-N.C., and Arlen Specter, R-Pa.; Washington Redskins coach Joe Gibbs.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., and his Democratic challenger, state treasurer Robert Casey.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean; Sen. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del.; Sen. Lincoln Chafee, R-R.I., and his primary challenger, Cranston Mayor Stephen Laffey; actress and animal rights activist Bo Derek.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Rep. Christopher Shays, R-Conn.; Iraqi deputy prime minister Barham Salih; Ali Asghar Soltanieh, Iranian representative to the International Atomic Energy Agency; Teamsters president James Hoffa and Labor Secretary Elaine Chao; former Clinton adviser Lanny Davis and former Bush campaign strategist Matthew Dowd.

[MNJohnnie]

Little editing and it makes a neat tagline

[Phsstpok]

Here in a nutshell, is the strategic military reason for Iraq...

Excellent analysis!  You nailed it. Let me add my voice to the others who have already praised this post (I'm still being good and reading slowly, so I'm a little behind today).

[Txsleuth]

Another good point...sheesh, you may end up with the World's Record of "good points per thread".

[rodguy911]

Thanks, came from an ali link of course,LGF.

[rodguy911]

It works!

[samantha]

#642, I think you just explained it. You and Rodguy and Phsstpok do double duty,and even though we appreciate it, we like you 100 percent. Even if it is for a good paycheck we wish you all could take some time off to refresh. There is no telling how much more awesome(if that is possible) the thread would be then.

[Bahbah]

From the RedState site:

a potentially dangerous Democratic strategy: Nominate Evan Bayh to the top of the ticket and put Junior Casey in the no. 2 slot. This would lull the American people to sleep in such a way that no targeted get-out-the-vote strategy the GOP could muster would save them.

LOL.

[rodguy911]

Thanks samantha you are the best!

[Txsleuth]

Agree, agree, agree, agree....you hit a home run with that post..


I wish your posts could be automatically e-mailed to Fox News...they MIGHT get the message.

[saveliberty]

Wow, great post! I will start by saying that I should not have been so severe in my first post about the topic and I apologize to you.

Okay here goes -My underlying assumption - a smaller organization -- whether business and government-- is easier to manage well. A larger organization is harder -- it is easier for issues not to be seen-- not necessarily because someone is hiding them, but because the scope of work is too large to monitor well. It's true in business and it's true in government.

I agree completely with your comment about structural/institutional differences between DOD and State. They each manage a different aspect of security and have differing assumptions.

Now for the comment about dissenters. I used to vote left and had to change my way of thinking as the authority I questioned was that of those who had at one point questioned authority on the right. Dissent is healthy and necessary for corrective actions and quality enhancements. But that's not endorsing someone to be contrarian for its own sake. That serves to undermine that person's voice. I disagree with the application of Kant in the 21st century, but I absolutely do not want dissenters cleared out. What I would like to see is someone who is in State who has a non traditional view from a State Department perspective. I am only on the outside--yes I read a lot, but I would like to see more balance. Maybe you can tell me it's there and that would be wonderful.

If the case was that as staffers, all you could do is follow orders from political appointees, that's a real waste of talent that the organization did to you and your colleagues.

I want effective administration. It's important to be able to escalate concerns and issues. I don't say that lightly. No administration, whether in business or government, operates well by suppressing dissent. The difference is whether different view points can be listened to or responded to. There is a huge range of what you can say-- the challenge is to say it in a way that is effective. In business, the suppression of dissent eventually leads to the failure of the endeavor.

Someone who takes and passes the foreign service exam has an empirically verifiable and strong foundation to work within the organization. If someone went through heck on wheels to get in, works hard and does not get any reinforcement that he/she has been heard, is making progress, etc., that's frustrating, and that makes the job much harder to enjoy. It disincents those people from doing their best. And that's what I'd thought I'd understood from your comment about being Lilliputian.

And that's the risk to State, Treasury, Transportation, etc. Each department carries different risks with disincenting people who work there.

I think that it's also worth considering to what extent assumptions about research or an initiative, where in business, academia or government, should be written explicitly in the documentation provided. Assumptions are important intellectual tools, but the single biggest reason for a failure is that different people working together had different assumptions and did not state them clearly at the outset.

I think it's a healthy thing to include the premises of the writer in the body of work.

[Txsleuth]

Thank you very much for posting the list, Johnnie!

South...thanks for compiling and writing it...great job.

[federal]

I have no doubt that the USA would have defeated Germany with or without the Eastern Front, I'm also very aware of the fact that it was America that supplied most of the weapons and or industrial technology that stopped the German invasion. Pre WWII Russia's military was completely antique.

The context of my statement was meant to show that the Rats claim of how quickly Germany was defeated had many extenuating circumstances, the biggest IMO was the Eastern Front. I don't think there is any question that the Germans were fighting and losing on two major fronts which shortened the war in Europe considerably.

I'm not sure how I failed to make myself clear but obviouly I have. There is no short selling the American contribution to the defeat of Nazi Germany on my part.

[samantha]

#664,we had pretty much of a semi drought here and I have Citrus that needed to be watered daily,the grass got enough water to be green but the Citrus are different. Well that stupido Ernesto dumped about 6 plus inches in about 12 hours,and since he left we have had about 4 more inches including another inch today. I am really sorry I did that rain dance two weeks ago.LOL! Most of the places that got rain needed it, this is natures way,and I almost always trust nature. That being said, enough already a little bit every other day will suffice. It is already in the 50's in Central NY, almost time for Snow for you Huh?

[Phsstpok]

Tony hasn't commented on this (Plame/Wilson) because he has been on vacation. I believe he will be back on Tuesday, and expect to hear him comment on this next week.

Thanks.  It makes sense that he would be on vacation during the Congressional recess.  Of course, that leaves the field open for the opposition slime machine, so he may have to rethink that logic.

I am still going to go back and try to find things that he has been saying since he's taken the job that have been buried by the DBM.  I have bumped into a couple of things that he's said that I thought were slam dunks and would get lots of coverage and there was absolutely no mention of them by the likes of the NY Slimes and the alphabet networks. 

There's a phrase for the technique, similar to "shunning," that I can't remember right now, where everyone simply ignores reality, particularly what their opponent is doing and saying, as a political technique.  Something like "clintonizing."

[maica]

One of my close relatives is/was a career employee at State.

[samantha]

#676, great rant,what a great thread today. Fantastic participation. Great minds,feeding on and off of other great minds.

[rockrr]

Your comments on the economy are spot on and bear repeating.

Whenever I hear this fanciful "worst economy ever" bullcrap I laugh and ask them, "Where do you get that stuff?" "Do you believe them or your own lying eyes?!"

Tell them to take a look around them and witness the full parking lots in the malls, with paying customers running shopping carts full of impulse purchases. Have him take a look around at all of the expensive automobiles folks are driving.

Right now I'm vacationing with my folks on a little lake in Washington state where the boat launch area is stacked with patrons anxious to take their spendy powerboats out for a spin.
My point is that the economy is doing great and barring interference by nihilistic Dhimicrats, it will continue to do so.

The only ones who can truthfully claim that they see only misery and failure are the Dhimmicrats holed up in their parent's basements ;'}

[samantha]

#685, that almost sounds like what Nikita Krushchev said back in the early 60's. We will bury you,from within. It looks like they have had a good start since so many Dems belong to the Socialist/Communist Party,and look at their agenda.

[Dave S]

In fact, the reason that Armitage knew about Plame sending her husband to Niger was because he was copied on memo to Libby answering this question. &&&&& Source??

Same book that said it was Armitage that did the leak.

[Phsstpok]

Casey seems like he doesn't have a clue at all.

You noticed that too?  Lil' Timmah didn't.  Or, actually, to be precise, he probably did and chose to gloss it over.  After all, he had a job to do to shore up the dim candidate.