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GOP Tries Blocking Libertarian Candidates
http://www.ny.lp.org/news/2006.gopblocks.htm ^ | 8 31 06 | lp.org

Posted on 09/02/2006 9:01:49 PM PDT by freepatriot32

LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF NEW YORK (516) 767-4688 http://www.ny.lp.org/ Contact: Richard Cooper, State Chair nylibertarian@hotmail.com John Clifton www.electclifton.org; Michael Sylvia mike@mikesylvia.org www.mikesylvia.org; Eric Sundwall info@sundwall4congress.org www. sundwall4congress.org; Steve Finger 917-623-0652 Finger4Congress@aol.com, www.fingerforcongress.org FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE GOP Tries Blocking Libertarian Candidates

Albany, NY 8/31/06 Libertarian Party of New York State Chair Richard Cooper reports that general objections have been filed against both the statewide Libertarian petition and that for Eric Sundwall in the 20th Congressional District. Cooper asks “Are the Republicans and lobbyist John Faso desperate to keep the Libertarians out of the race? They know we won’t hesitate to expose Republicans as deceiving the public with less government rhetoric and big government practice.” The 20th District seat held by Republican John Sweeney is thought to be one of the more competitive this year.

A GOP Town leader from north of NYC approached Libertarian Party gubernatorial candidate John Clifton with a proposition: Clifton should publicly praise Faso for his conservative stands on gun control and other issues. In other words, the GOP leader sought an endorsement in all but name from the competition. Undisclosed future benefits would result. Clifton was not interested. He declines to name this political activist he has known for some time. Cooper says the same person tried to have the Libertarians nominate Faso when Weld dropped out of the race. The approach took place at a recent gathering of the Foundation for Economic Education in Irvington-on-Hudson. Cooper declares that “This refusal by Libertarian gubernatorial candidate John Clifton to play political games shows that the Libertarian Party is the Party of Principle.”

Cooper notes that Comptroller candidate John Cain from Congers in Rockland County wore a microphone for investigators when offered a bribe, resulting in convictions. Besides Cain and Clifton, the Libertarians are running Jeffrey Russell for US Senate, Donald Silberger for Lt. Governor, and Christopher Garvey for Attorney-General. On the Congressional line, the Libertarians are running Michael Sylvia in the 24tth District and Dr. Steve Finger in the 11th. –30-

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To: MarkL
"Actually, they favor "open borders," which would end the entire concept of "illegal immigration." Interestingly enough, both dems and pubbies seem to agree with this..."

Another point on which I disagree with the party. OK that's two.
41 posted on 09/02/2006 10:15:10 PM PDT by Calvin Coollidge (The last really great president.)
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To: Owen

Don't forget the reason for the "two party system" is that it's designed by the "two parties" to stay a "two party system."

Most people don't seem to realize that there's nothing in the founding documents of this country that gives the "two parties" any sort of a monopoly on political power. Some people I've spoken with actually remember learning something about a dual "something" in the legislature, which they believe refers to the "two party system."

And don't forget the MSM and their role in keeping outsiders out.

Mark


42 posted on 09/02/2006 10:15:42 PM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: Rex Anderson

"Sorry, I got you Calvinists mixed up."

LOL! Actually I am neither Protestant nor Roman Catholic.


43 posted on 09/02/2006 10:16:43 PM PDT by Calvin Coollidge (The last really great president.)
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To: Owen
Prove the party's appeal. Then they are something other than a spoiler.

That argument just won't fly anymore.
There are more libertarians in the Republican Party than in the Libertarian Party, but that is changing. The Republican Party is the minority party. When libertarians sit out elections, Republicans can't win.

Libertarians allied with Republicans to fight socialism and win the cold war. The Republican Party has now moved to the big government left and the cold war is over.

Republicans want the libertarian vote but ridicule libertarian philosophy. The honeymoon is over. Divorce is in the future.
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44 posted on 09/02/2006 10:24:48 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: ghostmonkey
In fact, liberaltarians quite often openly cheer for marxists. As long as they get their hedonism they are happy.

hi do you know any marxists or libertarians big L or small l how many marxist want no taxes and no gun laws how about no laws that effect people that dont do harm to others ? thelibertarians are the furthest thing from marxist(who want total big xcentral government control over every man woman and childon earthbtw) that you can get

45 posted on 09/02/2006 10:29:56 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: MarkL
Good job shooting down that Statist whacko, Mark!

"Y'all got on this boat for different reasons, but y'all come to the same place. So now I'm asking more of you than I have before. Maybe all. Sure as I know anything, I know this - they will try again. Maybe on another world, maybe on this very ground swept clean. A year from now, ten? They'll swing back to the belief that they can make people... better. And I do not hold to that. So no more runnin'. I aim to misbehave."

Somewhat appropriate comment, given the context of this thread. ;-D

46 posted on 09/02/2006 10:38:38 PM PDT by FierceDraka (When every special interest gets their way, there will be no more Liberty.)
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To: supercat
, if you separate out the issues where libertarians disagree among themselves,

.... you would have nothing left

47 posted on 09/02/2006 10:49:33 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: mugs99
Libertarians allied with Republicans to fight socialism and win the cold war. The Republican Party has now moved to the big government left and the cold war is over.

And there's no war on now?

I'm sure the libertarian cower-under-our-beds position on national defense would work wonders.

48 posted on 09/02/2006 10:51:56 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: mugs99
Libertarians allied with Republicans to fight socialism and win the cold war. The Republican Party has now moved to the big government left and the cold war is over.

Republicans want the libertarian vote but ridicule libertarian philosophy. The honeymoon is over. Divorce is in the future.

That's the same thing I keep trying to tell the nanny-statists around here.

But, in their hubris, they seem to delude themselves into believing that the entirety of the conservative movement consists of social authoritarians like themselves, and they can simply laugh off those of us who believe in true individual liberty (economic as well as social) come Election Day.

49 posted on 09/02/2006 10:53:25 PM PDT by FierceDraka (When every special interest gets their way, there will be no more Liberty.)
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To: freepatriot32

The LP once again having delusions of grandeur.


50 posted on 09/02/2006 10:55:21 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
Let's see. Liberaltarians support smoking dope, murdering unborn children, the homosexual agenda, destroying the moral foundations of the country

http://www.l4l.org/

Sorry to disrupt your rant but you might wantot click the link to the LIBERTARIANS FOR LIFE that i provided for you and as far as the smoking dope and homosexual agenda if you can point me to the spacific constitutional amendment or article in the us constitution that give the fed gov and not the states the rightto prohibit people from smoking weed and pole smoking no matter how distasteful you might find it i will gladly read it and agree with yu if you cant find it then its up to the states to legalise it or not and not washington dc

51 posted on 09/02/2006 10:59:39 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
Whatever problems I may have with the Republicans, delusional conspiracy theorists aren't the alternative

name one delusional conspiracy theory that the Libertarians believe in ? the clock is ticking

52 posted on 09/02/2006 11:01:32 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: FierceDraka

Social authoritarians always believe they run the show.
They're in for a rude awakening!


53 posted on 09/02/2006 11:19:05 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: JohnnyZ
And there's no war on now?

Won't work. The Republicans are running this war like Democrats would. Bridges to nowhere are more important than armor.
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54 posted on 09/02/2006 11:28:43 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: msnimje

"I notice a lot of Libertarians do not like to use capital letters, comas, complete sentences, etc."

Are these people the nitwits that use "i" instead of "I"?


55 posted on 09/02/2006 11:37:10 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (I can't beat em but I ain't joining them either.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

"The party itself is a complete joke but the message is there. It's the national party that is destroying Libertarians in general. Too much emphasis on open borders and drugs and not enough on low taxes and limited government."

Not to mention their esteemed former (late) leader Harry Browne, who blamed America for 9/11/2001.

These people are all over the place, on most all issues. BIG L's and little l's agree on little.

No wonder they make little headway. They don't deserve to.


56 posted on 09/02/2006 11:54:00 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: All
Many libertarian-leaning people would be perfectly happy with the Republicans

Yeah right...

1. Stop supporting policies that undermine the Fourth and Fifth Amendment in "support" of Prohibition II.

Why don't you give some concrete examples instead of blanket generalizations?

2. Make clear that "morality laws" are only applicable to public behavior.

All laws legislate some kind of morality, and perversion that breeds in Private seeps into and destroys the Public. As one of our FOUNDING FATHERS opined from the Bench of the Pennsylvania Supreme Court:

Although every immoral act, such as lying, etc., is not indict able, yet where the offense charged is destructive of morality in general it is punishable at common law. The destruction of morality renders the power of the government invalid. The corruption of the public mind, in general, and debauching the manners of youth, in particular, by lewd and obscene pictures exhibited to view, must necessarily be attended with the most injurious consequences. No man is permitted to corrupt the morals of the people; secret poison cannot be thus disseminated.

3. Acknowledge and honor the clear meaning of the Second Amendment.

So please tell us, what is the clear meaning of the Second Amendment? (FYI: I already know the answer to this, but I want to see if the libertarian answer squares with reality.)

4. Articulate a sound and coherent economic policy rationale, bearing in mind that "Democrat Lite" is not logically sound.

What party gave us the tax cuts?

57 posted on 09/03/2006 12:18:41 AM PDT by ghostmonkey
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To: All
I don't think Marxist Democrats are exactly opposed to the rampant Fourth- and Fifth-Amendment violations which have become a routine part of Prohibition II.

Have you ever read the rants on DU and the Kos Kids in favor of their dope?

Further, many Libertarians are opposed to the use of public schools to indoctrinate students into sexual immorality and Marxism.

So are many Republicans. Including myself.

Further, if you separate out the issues where libertarians disagree among themselves, I think you'd find that while a fair number of libertarians take the liberal side in disagreements with Republicans, nearly all of them would take the conservative side in their disagreements with Democrats.

Interesting, at the online political simulations, and the various discussion boards that I have visited, the libertarians inexorably ally with the Democrats against Republicans. I wonder why that is?

58 posted on 09/03/2006 12:19:05 AM PDT by ghostmonkey
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To: All
Proof please. In light of the fact that three out of the last four Lbertarian Presidential candidates were Pro Life, it appears that you don't know what you're talking about.

Read your own platform. Listen to Neil Boortz sometime.

Seeing as how both the Democrats and Republicans have carried on the failed strategy of prohibition, It again appears that you don't know what you're talking about. Educate Yourself

Your own platform contains endorsement of the homosexual agenda, endorsement of obscenity, endorsement of the marxist principle of "separation of church and state", endorsement of abortion, and endorsement of adultery, fornication and other sexual immorality.

59 posted on 09/03/2006 12:19:19 AM PDT by ghostmonkey
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To: All
I read your links. No libertarians supporting Marxists at those links. I'll repeat...Have you got any names or are you just spanking your monkey?

You must not be able to read very well.

60 posted on 09/03/2006 12:19:29 AM PDT by ghostmonkey
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