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About that best that can be said for Rudy is that he has a "R" next ot his name.

His stance on gun control, borders, scope of government power, and social programs disqualifies him in my not so humble opinion.

At some point the Rudy-ophiles are going to have to ask themselves whether they really want some 20%-30% of Republicans working their asses off to see to a GOP defeat in a Presidential election.

This for a guy who - if he simply changed parties and held the same beliefs - would be publicly lynched by those same Rudy-ophiles.

Seriously, this is like the Katherine Harris nutsos. How much are you willing to sacrifice, and for how long, in favor of someone who doesn't even NEED to be the nominee?

Rudy on the ticket: no GOP time, efforts, money, or votes from me. Not for quite a while. No scare tactics about Democrats being worse will change that - none.

There is a good chance I'd vote for the damn Democrat just to cut our losses and try again in four years instead of dealing with what would then be perpetual GOP liberals from them on.

Once they prove they can nominate a liberal and win, we have seen the last Conservative candidate.