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Remembering Wernher von Braun
The Space Review ^ | July 10, 2006 | Anthony Young

Posted on 09/02/2006 3:07:31 PM PDT by Paul Ross

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A little tardy, but I didn't see this previously posted yet.
1 posted on 09/02/2006 3:07:32 PM PDT by Paul Ross
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To: Paul Ross

Von Braun designed rocket programs.


2 posted on 09/02/2006 3:09:32 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: PatrickHenry
Von Braun, a life-long Lutheran, was a believer in intelligent design in the Universe long before it became a catch phrase and a lightning rod of debate.

Paging Mike Godwin. Paging Mike Godwin.

= )

3 posted on 09/02/2006 3:11:25 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Paul Ross

The Rockets go up,
But where they come down;
That's not my department,
Said Werhner von Braun.


4 posted on 09/02/2006 3:12:22 PM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy!" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: Paul Ross

I remember film clips of him just after his capture, and he was sneering at the camera like a typical arrogant Nazi. I guess he had a change of heart soon after, or maybe was told he might be traded to the Russians. Anyway, his attitude sure improved. :o)


5 posted on 09/02/2006 3:14:12 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: Paul Ross

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6 posted on 09/02/2006 3:14:51 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Don't mix alcopops and ufo's)
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To: Dumpster Baby

Interesting statement. Completely accurate as far as I can tell.


7 posted on 09/02/2006 3:22:44 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: donmeaker

He aimed for the sky - unfortunately many times he hit London.


8 posted on 09/02/2006 3:24:56 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: Paul Ross

My favorite Von Braun quote, "We can lick gravity, but sometimes the paperwork is overwhelming."


9 posted on 09/02/2006 3:25:24 PM PDT by appleharvey
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To: Paul Ross
Wernher von Braun and Walt Disney



Disney just recently released the DVDs featuring von Braun pitching the idea of space travel back in the 50s. Fascinating stuff.
10 posted on 09/02/2006 3:25:35 PM PDT by UncleDick
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To: Dumpster Baby

I guess the good news is that there is hope for human redemption.


11 posted on 09/02/2006 3:31:41 PM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy!" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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I remember film clips of him just after his capture, and he was sneering at the camera like a typical arrogant Nazi. I guess he had a change of heart soon after, or maybe was told he might be traded to the Russians. Anyway, his attitude sure improved. :o)

For what it's worth ... Back in the mid-70s my mother was working as a stewardess for some fancy private East coast airline (the name of which escapes me at the moment), during which time she frequently served von Braun. They became friendly aquantainces. She remembers him as being one of the kindest men she's ever met. She was especially impressed by the lack of arrogance and pretention in the man.

That's her view of von Braun, anyway. I never met the man and know nothing else of his personality or character. Perhaps he was just a charming smoothee making the moves on a good looking stewardess.

12 posted on 09/02/2006 3:36:38 PM PDT by AHerald ("Do not fear, only believe." Mk 5:36)
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To: Dumpster Baby

I understand the scientists went to the West while the technicians went to Russia. Therefore Russia had hardware first, but we had the brains.

Asked what he expected to find on the moon when America landed, Werner told Congress, "The Russians." He got the funding he wanted.

He was a great man, a real hero in space exploration. It says a lot about America that he worked for the other side and was considered our own scientist later, even with his accent and name.

I heard a story that he became a Presbyterian because it was not right for the leader of the team to go to the same church as the underlings. That may not be correct. It was just a story from a Lutheran church leader.


13 posted on 09/02/2006 3:36:50 PM PDT by sine_nomine (American is a great country: 20 million illegals can't be wrong. So build that wall, Mr. Bush.)
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To: donmeaker

Don't say that he's hypocritical
Rather just say that he's apolitical...


14 posted on 09/02/2006 3:48:03 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: Dumpster Baby
I remember film clips of him just after his capture, and he was sneering at the camera like a typical arrogant Nazi. I guess he had a change of heart soon after, or maybe was told he might be traded to the Russians. Anyway, his attitude sure improved. :o)

While I haven't seen the video you mention, and I don't know the context of it; He could very well have been sneering at the Russians that didn't get him. I don't believe Von Braun was really a Nazi, and he WANTED to go with the Americans, and brought his brain trust with him.

He just wanted to build rockets and explore space, that's all he ever wanted to do, and the Nazi's knew he was the best they had. While I don't think he really had a choice - to walk away from them - his desire to build rockets probably overwhelemed the moral compass a bit. Of course, considering his expertise, I wonder if the V1, V2 programs weren't hindered in some areas.

15 posted on 09/02/2006 3:55:33 PM PDT by AFreeBird (If American "cowboy diplomacy" did not exist, it would be necessary to invent it.)
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Von Braun was a true pioneer. Like many other scientists he was forced to join the Nazi Party; had he spoken out he probably would have been killed or sent to a concentration camp.

In 1944 he was arrested for allegedly being a defeatist for statements he had made to some friends regarding his view that the war was going badly and being disappointed that they were not workinng on a real spaceship, and for being an alleged Communist sympathizer. This was really part of a larger plot by Himmler to gain complete control of the V2 rocket program and von Braun was his scapegoat. Braun was later released after intevention by Albert Speer.

Von Braun's stated goal was always to help humanity get into space. Von Braun and some of his team surrendered to the Allies after he found an American private and identified himself to him.

In 1976 von Braun learned he had cancer. Von Braun died in Alexandria, Virginia 1977 from internal bleeding as the result of injuries sustained from a crash.

16 posted on 09/02/2006 3:57:08 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Tall_Texan

Von Braun deserves rememberance for his amazing accomplishments and vision. That does not excuse his Nazi associations, nor does it imply we should forget them or forgive them either. It takes maturity and wisdom to do both.


17 posted on 09/02/2006 4:01:06 PM PDT by PC99
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To: AHerald
Perhaps he was just a charming smoothee making the moves on a good looking stewardess.

Who isn't?

18 posted on 09/02/2006 4:02:41 PM PDT by EricT. (SpecOps needs to paint the NYT building with a targeting laser.)
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To: Paul Ross; Peanut Gallery
From my office.


19 posted on 09/02/2006 4:06:46 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (DNR In case of tagline failure.)
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To: AFreeBird
Of course, considering his expertise, I wonder if the V1, V2 programs weren't hindered in some areas.

IIRC, there was a program on the History Channel that made this claim. According to them, he would delay production and incorporate as many design flaws as he could without getting shot.

20 posted on 09/02/2006 4:11:49 PM PDT by EricT. (SpecOps needs to paint the NYT building with a targeting laser.)
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