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1 posted on 09/02/2006 11:43:00 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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But NO death penalty for Leftist deserter scum. That's off the table.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

2 posted on 09/02/2006 11:45:05 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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This is nuts.


3 posted on 09/02/2006 11:46:56 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Democrats. French, but more cowardly.)
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If what they did was *truly* murder and not just something that happens in the fog of war,then the death penalty is appropriate,IMO.

But the prosecution would have to present *very* convincing evidence to me before I'd convict them of *murder*.

I'd hate like hell to see some modern day replay of "Breaker Morant" happen to any of our guys.

4 posted on 09/02/2006 11:46:58 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("An empty limousine pulled up and Hillary Clinton got out")
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I am not familiar with this case....is it similar to the Marines?


5 posted on 09/02/2006 11:47:19 AM PDT by killermedic (Time to thaw out "The Duke!")
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Now for the First time in history the Liberal Scum of America will be in Favor of the Death Penalty.


7 posted on 09/02/2006 11:47:56 AM PDT by trumandogz
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Daniel found several aggravating factors that warrant a sentence of death

What were the 'several aggravating factors'?
8 posted on 09/02/2006 11:48:18 AM PDT by kinoxi
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Charging a man with murder in this place was like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500.
9 posted on 09/02/2006 11:50:13 AM PDT by trumandogz
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Were gonna train you and give you the best weapons known to man. Were gonna test your courage and skills we have trained you with and we are going to put you in harms way. You are gonna do America PROUD by defeating the enemies on their own turf and we will support you every step of the way soldier! And god forbid if you make a mistake and kill one innocent person in this war, we will have to try you as a murderer and you may face the death penalty.

/end recruiting video

10 posted on 09/02/2006 11:50:32 AM PDT by Normal4me
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I haven't followed the case, but this recommendation reeks of playing to the arab street.


11 posted on 09/02/2006 11:51:01 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" 10% are fundamentalists, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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If they are guilty of what was originally charged, then execute away.


12 posted on 09/02/2006 11:51:18 AM PDT by ansel12 (Life is exquisite... of great beauty, keenly felt.)
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To: NormsRevenge; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; AirForceBrat23; Ajnin; ..
Officers from their unit initially cleared the soldiers of wrongdoing. Charges were filed when witnesses changed their testimony after repeated interviews with Army investigators, Bergrin said.
14 posted on 09/02/2006 11:52:09 AM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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"PHOENIX - An Army investigator has recommended the death penalty for four soldiers accused of murder during a raid in Iraq. Lt. Col. James P. Daniel Jr. made the recommendation in report obtained Saturday by The Associated Press. Daniel found several aggravating factors that warrant a sentence of death in the case of four soldiers accused of killing three men during the May raid in the Salahuddin province."

I'll readily admit to not being the sharpest knife in the drawer, nor the brightest bulb on the tree .. but ... what possible use is this cluster of words out of AP and into yahoo?

15 posted on 09/02/2006 11:53:23 AM PDT by knarf (Sevices for my lost, now consider deceased, tagline at 2 PM .. all welcome.)
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"Blue cards" for troops that are stressed out during basic, homos in the barracks, females in combat positions getting raped as POWs, navy ships with half of the women on board pregnant....

Oh, if you DO go ahead and do your job?

WE'RE GOING TO KILL YOU.

For God's sake, DON'T SERVE in the "new" military!

20 posted on 09/02/2006 11:56:23 AM PDT by gaijin
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Another PC field grade officer looking to make bird. This is unwarranted.


24 posted on 09/02/2006 11:59:17 AM PDT by stm (Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence)
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Crazy -- remember Hasan Akbar, the one who grenaded his own men, killing 2 and wounding 14? He got the D.P., and supposedly the last military execution in the US was in 1961. Is it any wonder that if this case is dropped, you won't hear THAT from the DBM?


26 posted on 09/02/2006 12:02:54 PM PDT by Disturbin (Welcome to society -- morons with keys)
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From what I have read, this was a pre-meditated murder, with a selected victim and designated look-outs, as well as an elaborate cover-up afterwards.

If the death penalty is to have any meaning, it should apply here, assuming they are found guilty. And I think it should be carried out by firing squad in the town square where it happened.

Certainly if I were part of the same unit as these men, I'd see it as an opportunity to erase the shame they had brought on their comrades.

-ccm

27 posted on 09/02/2006 12:09:09 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order)
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OMG ping


32 posted on 09/02/2006 12:14:20 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-prayers for the kidnapped Israeli Soldiers)
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FR thread


Soldiers Say Ordered to Kill Young Men

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1670251/posts

AP via Yahoo! ^ | July 21, 2006 | ALICIA A. CALDWELL


Posted on 07/21/2006 7:18:37 PM PDT by CrawDaddyCA


33 posted on 09/02/2006 12:15:15 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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article Update

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An Army investigator has recommended that four soldiers accused of murder in a raid in Iraq should face the death penalty, according to a report obtained Saturday by The Associated Press.

Lt. Col. James P. Daniel Jr. concluded that the slayings were premeditated and warranted the death sentence based on evidence he heard at an August hearing. The case will now be forwarded to Army officials, who will decide whether Daniel's recommendation should be followed.

The soldiers, all from the Fort Campbell, Ky.-based 101st Airborne Division's 187th Infantry Regiment, are accused of killing three Iraqi men taken from a house May 9 on a marshy island outside Samarra, about 60 miles north of Baghdad.

Staff Sgt. Raymond L. Girouard, Spc. William B. Hunsaker, Pfc. Corey R. Clagett and Spc. Juston R. Graber have claimed they were ordered to "kill all military age males" during the raid on the island. According to statements from some of the soldiers, they were told the target was an al-Qaida training camp.

Hunsaker told investigators that he and Clagett were attacked by the three men, who were being handcuffed, and shot them in self-defense. Clagett said he was hit in the face, and Hunsaker claimed he was stabbed during the attack.

Prosecutors argue the soldiers conspired to kill the men and then altered the scene to fit their story. They contend Girouard stabbed Hunsaker as part of the killing plot.

Clagett, Girouard and Hunsaker also are accused of threatening to kill another soldier who witnessed the slayings. Girouard, the most senior soldier charged, faces several additional charges, including sexual harassment and carrying a personal weapon on duty.

Paul Bergrin, Clagett's civilian attorney, said he was surprised that Daniel recommended the case be taken to trial at all.

"I'm extremely disappointed and disheartened," Bergrin said Saturday. "They are being used as pawns in the war on terror. They followed the rules of engagement. They were confronted with violence by a known al-Qaida training camp member."

Other lawyers in the case, several of whom are deployed to Iraq, did not immediately respond to e-mail requests for comment.

The soldiers are expected to be tried at Fort Campbell. They have been jailed in Kuwait since their arrests this year.

The U.S. military has not executed a soldier since the 1960 hanging of a soldier convicted rape and attempted murder.

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Associated Press writer Alicia A. Caldwell, the El Paso, Texas, correspondent, reported this story from Glendale, Ariz.


38 posted on 09/02/2006 12:18:15 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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If this is the story about the 4 who raped a girl then killed her and her family, and it is true, I say this is exactly what they deserve.

They single handedly brought shame on their whole country- If they were to do this at home and were civilians I would say they deserve the same penalty.

But to do this in another country does and incredible amount of damage beyond the crime itself, and the only way to help repair that part is to give them what they deserve.


47 posted on 09/02/2006 12:26:24 PM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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