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Okay I'll try again more reasonably on the stay at home conservatives
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Posted on 09/02/2006 9:41:18 AM PDT by ashamedtobefromparkridge

Some sensitive democrat supporters got my previous post pulled and I admit I went overboard but I am just so angry at how ridiculous some people get.

The whole Idea that because the republicans haven't done everything you want you want them out and want the democrats in TO SEND A MESSAGE.

The only message it sends is you want Bush impeached or at least a long costly trial that will weaken the US in the world and embolden the terrorists.

You want a much better chance at much higher taxes.

You want a very good chance we cut and run from Iraq and Afghanistan.

Tell me these things won't happen if the dems take over and since when do conservatives want cut and run and higher taxes?

And why do you want the terrorists emboldened by a weakened Bush?

Yes he hasn't been perfect but the alternative is much worse.

The Republican congress under Bush has been both good and bad for conservatives.

But the dems would make it 100 percent bad.

I agree on Bush's immigration bill. But it's much better than anything the dems want and if the dems win that's what will happen.

And another point if a vacancy happens in the SC right now at worst we'd get a middle of the road person if the dems win they'd make the most liberal justice look like Rush in comparison.

Vote republican even if you have to hold your nose and work at getting better candidates in 08.

If you truly believe the dem you'd vote for is better you're probably misled at best but vote for him/her.

But just to send a message don't do it.

It took the dems 12 years to take control if they do in 06. Do you want to wait that long to take control back?

I've been disappointed in Bush myself. But when I think of the alternative I get nightmares literally.

The dems will go for impeachment, higher taxes, cut and run and no immigration laws. They may not get them but its certainly much more likely to happen.

A vote against the republicans either for a dem or in default by not voting period is a vote against anything happening good for the conservative movement.

Maybe I'm different because I'm not 100 percent conservative. Some of my views lean a bit liberal (the biggest is while I'm anti gay marriage I am pro civil unions. By the way many gays agree with me on that including my gay republican cousin). But I'd rather vote for a rep willing to make some compromises than any democrat.

We're never going to get eveyrthing we want. But we're going to get what we have taken away and definitely not anything more with a democrat congress.

And believe me I will need a barf bag and nose clips to vote for Judy Barr Topinka in November. I think I should have an ambulance at the ready in case.

This is the first governor or presidential race I haven't put time into since I was 8 years old. I even go back to before I was able to vote to Ford in 1976 helping stuff envelopes at 8 years old.

Heck I've even voted for a democrat or too WHEN HE WAS THE BETTER CANDIDATE! Not to send a message but because he was the better candidate.

And for those who think I'm a DU in disguise. Read my post history.

Or why the heck do you think I'm ashamed to be from Park Ridge? Dave Butts the Washington Redskins star? No her name rhymes with Sillary Flinton.


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To: P-40

I agree. Problem is that Republicans spent so much time fearing the loss of office that they became empty suits.


161 posted on 09/02/2006 8:52:56 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
Problem is that Republicans spent so much time fearing the loss of office that they became empty suits.

There is a lot to that...and the ones that are still afraid should go.
162 posted on 09/02/2006 8:55:50 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: P-40

But the only safe time to remove a ding dong is in the primary.


163 posted on 09/02/2006 8:56:53 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: P-40

Good night, USC is winding down on the football and I'm going to go watch a movie.


164 posted on 09/02/2006 8:58:30 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
Good night, USC is winding down on the football and I'm going to go watch a movie.

Good night and a pheasant tomorrow.
165 posted on 09/02/2006 9:02:05 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: P-40
Good night and a ***pheasant*** tomorrow.

Thanks, I do like chicken at least.

166 posted on 09/02/2006 9:04:43 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Badray; ashamedtobefromparkridge
The other thing is, the world will not end if the Dems take the lead

atbfp, the above quote from Badray is reflective of a couple of handful of FR posters, and (thankfully) only about 1% of voters.

This happens every election cycle. They threaten to stay home or vote third party. Third party (Constitution Party) hacks post here daily, tearing down each and every electable Republican candidate.

They are insignificant, and will not change the outcome, no matter how much they bloviate on Free Republic.

In 2000, I even had a Keyes supporter tell me it would be better to have a Dem in the WH than to have Bush, because "then people would understand how much we need Keyes". That really woke me up. Lately I've discovered an ugly truth relating to that statement. If a Democrat wins the WH, it is Gravy Train City for the only "real conservatives" and their foundations/alliances that exist by hyping IMPORTANT ISSUES! that need IMMEDIATE ACTION AND SUPPORT$$$$

You aren't going to change their minds. After all, they have too much to lose.

167 posted on 09/02/2006 9:08:18 PM PDT by Rex Anderson
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To: Rex Anderson
The only time when Republicans seem to actually act like Republicans is when they're out of power. Then you'll start hearing about fiscal responsibility and limited government.

Stay at home conservatives usually seem to be the ones who go for the losers in the GOP in the same way that left-wing Democrats only go for the losers in their party. The difference is, the Dumbocrats actually nominate their losers.

168 posted on 09/02/2006 9:25:38 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
I've been accused of 'alienating the base' by a Constitution Party hack who was exposed.

Even after losing election after election... after election..., the right wing fringe has gained no political maturity. Many times they will field a coo-coo candidate to run against the incumbent in the Republican primary, and when their candidate loses (big-time!), they then run him in the general election as a Constitution Party candidate. It is insanity. Except for all the donation money taken in, and spent with consultants, caging companies, mailing list companies, etc., in which they have an interest.

There is an interesting Senate race in Utah. The incumbent cleaned the "real conservative's" clock. Keep an eye out for a Constitution Party candidate entering that race. Har.
169 posted on 09/02/2006 10:02:50 PM PDT by Rex Anderson
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To: Rex Anderson

Speaking of which, I've heard that Jim Gilchrist, founder of the Munutemen, is going to run as the Constitution Party's candidate in 2008. This is a guy who says that Bush should be impeached because of the borders. Talk about doing something that will kill your movement...


170 posted on 09/02/2006 10:30:40 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
Talk about doing something that will kill your movement...

... and bring in$$$$!

Did you know that Alan Keyes, back in the '90's, running for Senate, paid himself an $8,000 per month salary out of campaign donations? LOL

Of course, he lost the election.

171 posted on 09/02/2006 10:35:44 PM PDT by Rex Anderson
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To: Jedidah
When we are apathetic, we may deserve what we get for our laziness.

I'm far from lazy. I am, however, apathetic.

Don't thank me; thank the Republicans.

If only they had charged up their base by behaving like Republicans.......

172 posted on 09/03/2006 4:10:47 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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To: LadyPilgrim
I for one, would never vote for any rat because.............

Me too.

But not voting at all ia quite probable.

173 posted on 09/03/2006 4:18:03 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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To: ashamedtobefromparkridge
I would add one thing. President Nancy Pelosi - as Speaker, she would be third in line for the President. We have a movie out showing the President being assasinated. The VP has a heart problem.

I want BOTH of them to live long and healthy lives. BUT, if something were to happen, (if the dims take over, they make it more likely) do you really want her in that position?

174 posted on 09/03/2006 4:26:07 AM PDT by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: Lazamataz

Morning Laz ;-)
Remember, "no action, is in deed, an action".
I don't know who said it, but it works for me. ;-)

Do what you will, but we aren't sure who that nominee is going to be, as of yet.
Also whoever they choose, might just be the ticket to fire up all the folks that have gotten a bit lackluster during the last couple of years.

I pray that is the case.

Laz, these are anxious times in our world.
Sometimes we are called just to participate.
;-)

God bless you and yours!
Sorry, I have to get ready for early church.
Be back later. ;-)



175 posted on 09/03/2006 4:44:03 AM PDT by LadyPilgrim (Sealed my Pardon with HIS BLOOD!!! Hallelujah!!! What a Savior)
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To: ashamedtobefromparkridge
Voting for RINOs just breeds more RINOs....
176 posted on 09/03/2006 4:46:46 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: ashamedtobefromparkridge
My main point is a RINO is better than a dem any day.

Why does the name "Bloomberg" come to mind?

177 posted on 09/03/2006 4:49:46 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: patton

"The republicans sold us down the river.
Medicare prescription benefit cost ~ $1 trillion dollars."

So what's the alternative....staying home and getting Nancy Pelosi as speaker, 3rd in line to the Pres., John Conyers, an avowed socialist and Charley Rangel ways and mean chairman. You think the GOP screwed up...just wait.


178 posted on 09/03/2006 7:14:31 AM PDT by KenmcG414
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To: patton

which party will expand abortion rights?


179 posted on 09/03/2006 8:15:48 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy

good point. :(


180 posted on 09/03/2006 8:18:47 AM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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