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Okay I'll try again more reasonably on the stay at home conservatives
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Posted on 09/02/2006 9:41:18 AM PDT by ashamedtobefromparkridge

Some sensitive democrat supporters got my previous post pulled and I admit I went overboard but I am just so angry at how ridiculous some people get.

The whole Idea that because the republicans haven't done everything you want you want them out and want the democrats in TO SEND A MESSAGE.

The only message it sends is you want Bush impeached or at least a long costly trial that will weaken the US in the world and embolden the terrorists.

You want a much better chance at much higher taxes.

You want a very good chance we cut and run from Iraq and Afghanistan.

Tell me these things won't happen if the dems take over and since when do conservatives want cut and run and higher taxes?

And why do you want the terrorists emboldened by a weakened Bush?

Yes he hasn't been perfect but the alternative is much worse.

The Republican congress under Bush has been both good and bad for conservatives.

But the dems would make it 100 percent bad.

I agree on Bush's immigration bill. But it's much better than anything the dems want and if the dems win that's what will happen.

And another point if a vacancy happens in the SC right now at worst we'd get a middle of the road person if the dems win they'd make the most liberal justice look like Rush in comparison.

Vote republican even if you have to hold your nose and work at getting better candidates in 08.

If you truly believe the dem you'd vote for is better you're probably misled at best but vote for him/her.

But just to send a message don't do it.

It took the dems 12 years to take control if they do in 06. Do you want to wait that long to take control back?

I've been disappointed in Bush myself. But when I think of the alternative I get nightmares literally.

The dems will go for impeachment, higher taxes, cut and run and no immigration laws. They may not get them but its certainly much more likely to happen.

A vote against the republicans either for a dem or in default by not voting period is a vote against anything happening good for the conservative movement.

Maybe I'm different because I'm not 100 percent conservative. Some of my views lean a bit liberal (the biggest is while I'm anti gay marriage I am pro civil unions. By the way many gays agree with me on that including my gay republican cousin). But I'd rather vote for a rep willing to make some compromises than any democrat.

We're never going to get eveyrthing we want. But we're going to get what we have taken away and definitely not anything more with a democrat congress.

And believe me I will need a barf bag and nose clips to vote for Judy Barr Topinka in November. I think I should have an ambulance at the ready in case.

This is the first governor or presidential race I haven't put time into since I was 8 years old. I even go back to before I was able to vote to Ford in 1976 helping stuff envelopes at 8 years old.

Heck I've even voted for a democrat or too WHEN HE WAS THE BETTER CANDIDATE! Not to send a message but because he was the better candidate.

And for those who think I'm a DU in disguise. Read my post history.

Or why the heck do you think I'm ashamed to be from Park Ridge? Dave Butts the Washington Redskins star? No her name rhymes with Sillary Flinton.


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To: ashamedtobefromparkridge

Honey, you sure stirred up a hornets nest.

Although, I'll admit, they're being kinder to you than normal, when faced with having a lib, dem, dum, lying, cheating, scum for a President. We had one of those last time.

I for one, would never vote for any rat because.............they are rats! and our party at the very least, does have a moral plank! The other side has nothing. They never have in my life time!
They are a death party.

And also, when the election really does get rolling, you're going to see some action, when they see who the demdum nom actually is.
You want to know about FREEPING...just you wait! ;-)

It tickles me, just thinking about it! ;-)))


141 posted on 09/02/2006 4:12:38 PM PDT by LadyPilgrim (Sealed my Pardon with HIS BLOOD!!! Hallelujah!!! What a Savior)
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To: P-40

A voter should go for the R in the main election and seek changes only in the primaries before the main election.

The problem I have with the protest votes in the main elections is Ross Perot and how that gave us 8 years of Clinton.

We don't need that.


142 posted on 09/02/2006 4:16:57 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: ashamedtobefromparkridge
What democrat expanded the federal government by $1 trillion?

Bush.

143 posted on 09/02/2006 4:47:32 PM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: Right Winged American

Read it many times, thanks. Sanctimious a-holes who vote (R) nauseate me.


144 posted on 09/02/2006 4:55:42 PM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: A CA Guy
The problem I have with the protest votes in the main elections is Ross Perot and how that gave us 8 years of Clinton.

The Republicans gave us eight years of Clinton.
145 posted on 09/02/2006 7:08:16 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: sitetest
Mr. Perot ran in both 1992 and 1996, although he didn't do as well in 1996, gaining only around 8% of the vote.

I could have said that better. He was not a significant factor in 1996, with or without his VP.
146 posted on 09/02/2006 7:09:57 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: ashamedtobefromparkridge
So your going to show yourself as a fraud conservative and vote to get the democrats in power?

I don't respond to ad hominem. Care to make your case without insulting me?

Why do you hate our troops so much? why do you want to pay higher taxes?

This is a hateful thing to say to someone who has carried the conservative banner for over 30 years, and supported the troops when it wasn't "in fashion", not much later than the sKerry treason testimony days when they used to call our brave boys "baby killers" openly. I rallied for Reagan in the heart of liberal land and spent thousands of dollars and thousands of hours helping candidates I cared about. What have YOU done?

As for taxes, do you really think this RINO Congress who has spent us into a hole bigger than any Congress has in history won't renege on this issue too, once they're safely voted in for more terms? Have you forgotten W's RINO Dad and his lying, lying lips?

If I can't meaningfully threaten to withhold my support and vote in order to champion the CORE conservative values I care about, to a mincing GOP who supports Democrats over Republicans and RINOs over conservatives, what do you propose I use as a tactic against the heinous direction I see my party going?
147 posted on 09/02/2006 7:22:13 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: ashamedtobefromparkridge

two words should inspire disaffected Republicans, or single-issue conservatives: Roberts and Alito.

The alternative? Souter and Kennedy

Ultimately, that's what it will come down to. With a Democrat controlled Senate, Bush will not get thru a conservative nominee for SCOTUS and will have to compromise as did his father and President Reagan .. and look what we got there!


148 posted on 09/02/2006 7:37:15 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: P-40

No, the percentage of people who broke away from Bush 1 to vote for Perot gave us Clinton.

Bush 1 had to deal with the end of the S&L crash from Carter and people replaced the man with a fool who didn't take Bin Laden, enabled the nuclear missiles of China and soiled our honor for years.

Those who voted Perot were taking votes from conservatives, not the libs.

Perot voters = a bunch of total idiots.


149 posted on 09/02/2006 8:04:05 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: P-40

Clinton was a great con man.
Had a good look, but all he could do was follow a poll.

As 96 came around, he had set up false representations of himself to the people that most had not seen through yet.

Keep in mind that when a Democrat is in office, all the poor disappear from the streets and there is mostly no negative press. So once in office, a Democrat is harder than a Republican to defeat.


150 posted on 09/02/2006 8:08:50 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
Those who voted Perot were taking votes from conservatives, not the libs.

It was the conservatives that voted for Perot when he ran on things that would interest conservatives. The Republicans should have taken note and been...conservative.
151 posted on 09/02/2006 8:18:37 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: P-40

All those conservatives who protest voted for Ross Perot gave us Bill Clinton.
Total stupidity on the part of anyone who did that.
The only thing MORE stupid would be not learning from that mistake IMO.


152 posted on 09/02/2006 8:20:42 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: ashamedtobefromparkridge

IB4TZ?


153 posted on 09/02/2006 8:21:29 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: A CA Guy
All those conservatives who protest voted for Ross Perot gave us Bill Clinton.

Then the voters got what they wanted. I also recall a contract with America that gave conservatives what they wanted and then Republicans got what they wanted...and it is now theirs to throw away again.
154 posted on 09/02/2006 8:25:32 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: P-40

No, the voters had the con job pulled over their eyes.

The old BS about protest voting which is always of benefit to liberals.


155 posted on 09/02/2006 8:28:57 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
No, the voters had the con job pulled over their eyes.

That is what elections are for.
156 posted on 09/02/2006 8:32:18 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: P-40

Learning from their past mistakes and not making bad protest votes again is what having a brain is for.

People need to pay attention long enough to remember the past IMO.


157 posted on 09/02/2006 8:34:51 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
People need to pay attention long enough to remember the past IMO.

They won't. That takes effort. Very few remember why exactly the Republicans control all three branches right now.
158 posted on 09/02/2006 8:38:09 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: P-40

Two main reasons IMO would be:

Clinton right off with gays in the military and having Hillary trying to right away follow up with socialized medicine and trying to take over a seventh of the US economy.

Newt and the contract with America. What they did when they came in.


159 posted on 09/02/2006 8:42:25 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
Newt and the contract with America.

The whack-job wife electing herself co-president sure helped the Republicans but the Contract With America was by far the best. Exciting time to be a Republican...and I sure miss those days at times.
160 posted on 09/02/2006 8:50:13 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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