Okay I'll try again more reasonably on the stay at home conservatives

ME

[ashamedtobefromparkridge]

Some sensitive democrat supporters got my previous post pulled and I admit I went overboard but I am just so angry at how ridiculous some people get.

The whole Idea that because the republicans haven't done everything you want you want them out and want the democrats in TO SEND A MESSAGE.

The only message it sends is you want Bush impeached or at least a long costly trial that will weaken the US in the world and embolden the terrorists.

You want a much better chance at much higher taxes.

You want a very good chance we cut and run from Iraq and Afghanistan.

Tell me these things won't happen if the dems take over and since when do conservatives want cut and run and higher taxes?

And why do you want the terrorists emboldened by a weakened Bush?

Yes he hasn't been perfect but the alternative is much worse.

The Republican congress under Bush has been both good and bad for conservatives.

But the dems would make it 100 percent bad.

I agree on Bush's immigration bill. But it's much better than anything the dems want and if the dems win that's what will happen.

And another point if a vacancy happens in the SC right now at worst we'd get a middle of the road person if the dems win they'd make the most liberal justice look like Rush in comparison.

Vote republican even if you have to hold your nose and work at getting better candidates in 08.

If you truly believe the dem you'd vote for is better you're probably misled at best but vote for him/her.

But just to send a message don't do it.

It took the dems 12 years to take control if they do in 06. Do you want to wait that long to take control back?

I've been disappointed in Bush myself. But when I think of the alternative I get nightmares literally.

The dems will go for impeachment, higher taxes, cut and run and no immigration laws. They may not get them but its certainly much more likely to happen.

A vote against the republicans either for a dem or in default by not voting period is a vote against anything happening good for the conservative movement.

Maybe I'm different because I'm not 100 percent conservative. Some of my views lean a bit liberal (the biggest is while I'm anti gay marriage I am pro civil unions. By the way many gays agree with me on that including my gay republican cousin). But I'd rather vote for a rep willing to make some compromises than any democrat.

We're never going to get eveyrthing we want. But we're going to get what we have taken away and definitely not anything more with a democrat congress.

And believe me I will need a barf bag and nose clips to vote for Judy Barr Topinka in November. I think I should have an ambulance at the ready in case.

This is the first governor or presidential race I haven't put time into since I was 8 years old. I even go back to before I was able to vote to Ford in 1976 helping stuff envelopes at 8 years old.

Heck I've even voted for a democrat or too WHEN HE WAS THE BETTER CANDIDATE! Not to send a message but because he was the better candidate.

And for those who think I'm a DU in disguise. Read my post history.

Or why the heck do you think I'm ashamed to be from Park Ridge? Dave Butts the Washington Redskins star? No her name rhymes with Sillary Flinton.

[yoe]

VictoryGal, you can pick up the phone, it truly works wonders. I called McCain's office when I heard him politicizing Iraq and denigrating Bush on what should have been done rather than what is being done; apparently hundreds of others did the same thing because the next day he retracted some of his comments. All Republicans should unite and support this President regardless of what you think....Bush is staying focused and doing the best to achieve what he said he was going to do. The world respects him regardless what the pundits say about his foreign policy, it is respected. You don't leave the party you get mad and attempt to do something to change it....and single issues are for the whiners.

[bert]

.....Dissension leads to strength, blind voting to weakness......

I fully agree that dessention, even strong dessention is necessary. That is why we have primaries. The primaries allows dissention and an airing of all views.

Moderation for moderation's sake serves no good purpose. However to dispense with the primary elected candidate because he lacks some sort of purity will assure disaster and the election of someone who is truly bad.

I can blame you and the others showing this attitude for the election of Bill Clinton. Ross Perot appealed to just enough purists to cause Clinton to be elected.

The next time you throw away a vote on a nonelectable candidate or don't vote because of principle.... think of Bill Clinton.

[bert]

Please look at my post 122.

[woofie]

think of Bill Clinton.

Do I have to?

[P-40]

I can blame you and the others showing this attitude for the election of Bill Clinton.

So was it the fault of Ross Perot or the Republicans for not listening to what Republicans wanted? And Ross only ran once...Clinton was elected twice.

[VictoryGal]

I call, I write... I get lip service and form letters.

I send back envelopes (that used to hold donations) with a long letter about why I've stopped donating.

My message is: change your ways, and I'll support you. Keep on with your RINO betrayals, and I won't. I won't send money, I won't vote for you.

In order for this message to really have impact, I need to mean what I say.

[patton]

No, I will think about the greatest expansion in federal entitlement spending ever - even mor than FDR screwed us with.

You think clintoon could have done that? Nah. It took a republican.

"Let all of the poisons that lurk in the mud, hatch out." I CLAVDIVS

[Hydroshock]

Blaming someone of not voting for candidate they find unpalatable is like blaming me for Gm's financial troubles because I bought a jeep. Chevy's are anything I want to buy and RINOS are not anything I will vote for.

[WhiteGuy]

You're still delusional.

It's this simple:

1. The chances of the democrats taking over one house of congress is incredibly slim.

2. The chances of the democrats taking over BOTH houses of congress is zilch

3. Even if the worst case scenario happens (#2 above) there will be NO articles of impeachment brought against the president. NO CHANCE - there has been no crime

4. There will be no massive tax increase, unless you think bush is too weak to find his veto pen.

5. The "war" will go on as it has thus far. maybe more discussion - less of a rubber stamp on spending, but nothing will change.

6. On how our government deals with illegal invaders, the president's position is one of capitulation anyway, so perhaps a little gridlock would help, at least it couldn't hurt.

The sky is not falling, stop repeating what the bought and paid for political entertainers read on the air.

Start thinking for yourself and realize that obedience to a political party is intellectual bondage. And before you start calling names, or making stupid remarks.......... refute my points with facts. (which is impossible)

[SUSSA]

You should read this

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1634250/posts

[MassachusettsGOP]

Term Limits and Challenging the Establishment in the Primaries.

[uptoolate]

Agreed. Analytical minds think alike.

How long did you look at it to see if you could find a pattern?

[uptoolate]

I can blame you and the others showing this attitude for the election of Bill Clinton. Ross Perot appealed to just enough purists to cause Clinton to be elected.

Wow. That's funny. I've been blaming you and the others for not voting for Ross.

How ironic, don't ya think?

[savedbygrace]

This thread needs more cowbell.

[ashamedtobefromparkridge]

Since by staying home or voting dem your voting for higher taxes, cut and run and impeachment why do you care?

[ashamedtobefromparkridge]

Everyone who goes along with this stay home thing or vote dem to show a lesson is worse than the worse democrat.

[Right Winged American]

With Respect, read your own Tag Line.

[ashamedtobefromparkridge]

So your going to show yourself as a fraud conservative and vote to get the democrats in power?

Why do you hate our troops so much? why do you want to pay higher taxes?

[APFel]

Why do you hate our troops so much? why do you want to pay higher taxes?

Foul- logical fallacy. Ten yard penalty and loss of a down.

So your going to show yourself as a fraud conservative and vote to get the democrats in power?

A fraud conservative would have us "hold our noses" while we vote RINO.

APf

[sitetest]

Dear P-40,

Mr. Perot ran in both 1992 and 1996, although he didn't do as well in 1996, gaining only around 8% of the vote. Still, Mr. Clinton did not receive a majority of the popular vote that year, gaining only about 49%.


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