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To: callmejoe
Hi callmejoe. I think the key color is green. Green and non-green. The extremists want nothing less than a world Caliphate. The map I posted was removed from the original site (also no longer available) just before 911.

I only have time for a quick search right now, but here is something... More background at little green footballs:

3/5/2005: The United States of Islam

The Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine is a wonderful tool, containing more than 30 billion web pages archived from 1996 to a few months ago. It’s a good place to look for sites that no longer exist on the web, if you know the site’s former address.

Here’s one, which was apparently removed from the Internet some time around July 2001: New World Order Known As Muttahida Jihad Council. (Hat tip: Kae.)

The former Muttahida Jihad Council site featured the following map prominently; please note the small map at lower right labeled “After 100 Years.”

THE MAP OF UNITED STATES OF ISLAM.

THE DREAM OF 20th CENTURY MUSLIMS WILL BE REAL IN 21st CENTURY.

FIGHT IN THE WAY OF ALLAH (AGAINST THE ENEMY OF ISLAM). AND HOLD FAST, ALL TOGETHER BY THE ROPE OF ALLAH AND BE NOT DIVIDED AMONG THEMSELVES.

MUSLIM MAJORITY

[Green]MUSLIM COUNTRIES
[Non Green]NON MUSLIM COUNTRIES

DETAILS OF ISLAMIC STATES

CAPITAL: ONLY MAKKA, BUT NOT SAUDI’S FAMILY ARABIA
HEAD OF STATE: REHNUMA
NAME OF CURRENCY: ISLAMIC DINAR
RULE & LAW: QURAN & HADEES
ISLAMIC FLAG: BLACK BACKGROUND WITH WHITE KALMA PRINT

RESULT

ALL RESOURCES AVAILABLE IN ISLAMIC STATES.
BIGGEST ARMY IN THE WORLD
STRONGEST CURRENCY IN THE WORLD.
LARGEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.
ATOMIC & SUPER POWER COUNTRY.
EUROPE & U.S.A. CAN NOT SEIZE ASSESTS IN FUTURE OF MUSLIM UMMAH (COMMUNITY)
THE HEART OF GLOBE IN MUSLIM HAND.
MORE THEN HALF POPULATION OF WORLD IN ISLAMIC STATE.

A link to the Muttahida Jihad Council web site still exists on this page: Islamic Web Sites, under the title “NYC United States of Islam.” [DLN NOTE: The NYC United States of Islam website also no longer exists following little green football's reference a few months ago.]


1,056 posted on 09/16/2006 5:47:36 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo (DEATH TO ISLAMIC TERRORISTS AND ANIMAL AND CHILD ABUSERS.)
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To: Donna Lee Nardo
Muslims in China

Snip: .....There are now some 34,000 mosques and 400 Islamic organization in the entire People's Republic of China (Beijing, Rabi Awwal 28/June 20 (IINA). Muslims are allowed to perform Hajj and the number of pilgrimage from China is about 3000 per year.

At present, according to official statistics there are 28 million Muslim in China but in1936 it was estimated that the Muslim population was 48 million. By this time total population has increased 3-4 fold. So we can conclude that the total Muslim population has increased minimum by that same proportion. Therefore, now the total Muslim population (ed/ in China) is at least 150 million.

Muslim population in India

Snippets: The high rate of Muslim population is not unique to India alone. Barring the isolated case of Indonesia, Muslim population growth outpaces almost every other group in just about any country in the world.

To bring it up to date -- Between 1961 and 2001, in absolute numbers, the Hindu population has grown from 366 million to 827 million - a growth of 126% while the Muslim population in the same period grew from 47 million to 138 million -- a growth of 193 per cent. The Muslim population growth was consistent at about 50 per cent higher than the Hindu population.

1,058 posted on 09/16/2006 6:53:06 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: Donna Lee Nardo
I've seen that map before. Here's what I found out in March: The website's put out by the Muttahida Jihad Council (MJC) which is an umbrella body of 17 Pakistani based terrorist groups. It was fostered by the ISI, according to some sources, including Yosef Bodansky. http://www.kashmir-information.com/Bodansky/Bodansky1.html According to Jane's , http://www.janes.com/security/international_security/news/jwit/jwit010920_1_n.shtmlthe group is Sunni/Wahhabi. They have alliances with the the Taliban, al-Qaida, Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU) and other international Islamist organisations. There are also some links with Sikh organisations, which Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency has brokered in the past.
India accuses Pakistan of heavily subsidising UJC groups, and also of providing the groups with training and equipment. However, the dependency of each group on Islambad varies. HuM and HM receive much of their income from religious charities, for instance, while JeM is almost wholly dependent upon Pakistan. Other funds for militants arrive from al-Qaida, sympathetic individual Pakistanis, Kashmiris who live overseas, drug trafficking, and religious foundations based in countries around the world
Another source http://www.ict.org.il/inter_ter/orgdet.cfm?orgid=14 says at least one of the 17 terrorist groups under the MJC umbrella also receives donations from sympathizers in Saudi Arabia and other Gulf and Islamic states and from Pakistanis and Kashmiris.
The source and amount of HUM's military funding are unknown. The organization may recieve an unknown amount of monetary support from Pakistan. It is a member of the United Jihad Council [Muttahida Jihad Council - MJC] set up in 1994 by Pakistan's Inter Services Intelligence agency. Among the other member organizations: Hizb-ul-Mujahideen, Jamiat-ul-Mujahideen, Al-Jihad, Al-Barq, Ikhwan-ul-Mussalmin, Tariq-ul-Mujahideen.
The MJC chairman Syed Salahuddin went to Saudi late last winter http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006\01\04\story_4-1-2006_pg7_53 and to meet with Syed Ali Shah Geelani, chairman of All Parties Hurriyat Conference (APHC) faction, who's now apparently living in Saudi. Supposedly, they discussed "track-II diplomacy", the composite dialogue process and APHC’s reunification. (Track-ll diplomacy involves Track II diplomacy involves actors representing non-governmental organizations engaged in activity at the grassroots level and back channel measures. Track II diplomacy is important in maintaining support at the local level for negotiated agreements and terms to a peace settlement. APHC's an alliance of secessionist parties and leaders, as a political front to further the cause of Kashmiri separatism) I'm not sure which "track" involved strapping a bomb on your chest to blow up schoolkids. I wrote about it in http://cuppapolitics.blogspot.com/2006/03/wed-like-to-teach-world-to-sing-jihad.html -- many apologies for the link. It's just a little better formatted over there, and the links are easier to click to. Thanks for your time, will go back to "lurking."
1,086 posted on 09/17/2006 5:00:05 AM PDT by Tilly (I'm not paid to be stressed!!!)
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To: Donna Lee Nardo

Thanks for the info. I'm all for looking at any and every crazy scheme/map/image floating around. Long ago, I read both Mein Kampf and Shto Dyelat and I'm sure anyone reading those pre-revolutionary diatribes at the time would find it difficult to make sense of the writings let alone take those schemes seriously.

But unless there is some rationale I'm missing, all this map shows is the Islamic world as it has been for 1000 years with all the other countries colored in random colors, then showing a world 100 years from now all in green (Islamic), but not really showing how that happens when the area shaded green has not really expanded much in 1000 years - - not much progress to show for 1000 years of "jihad".

The map shows the dream of that same old radical faction within Islam that remains, even after a millenium, "stuck on stupid". The only way they can get "unstuck" and get the jihad they truly envision is if they manage to set off a global clash between the "green world" and the rest of the world. The source of the map may be legit. But without some rhyme or reason to the colors to "break their code" (if any), despite all the small print, the map never really says anything new (except they believe Islam will one day rule the world, which comes as no shock)

Most people still do not understand that 9/11 was not really about us. Actually, none of the terror attacks is ultimately about us (the "infidel" colored countries). We are just props in their pseudo-religious morality play. It is all about the green countries (or more precisely the literal 99.95% of the Muslim world that even after 1000 years still will not engage in active global "jihad").

Jihadis (Sunni or Shia) cannot unify all the "green" countries under their radical banner of a mythical Caliphate unless they somehow create a situation that forces them to band together to defend themselves against the rest of the world. The vast majority of the Islamic world after all this time remains completely unwilling to participate in an "offensive" jihad, but if they become convinced that the entire Muslim world is under attack, then they will possibly come together to fight "defensive" jihad.

This is the reason for all the tapes over the past 10 years. It is to repeatedly argue their case to the "home crowd" (which is not yet convinced) that the entire world is attacking them, and that this militant faction of jihadis are therefore only acting in self-defense on their behalf when they go out and kill "infidels", and so jihad is the only solution for Muslims to survive.

So when they attack American civilians again, but on a much larger scale, it will be only after repeated "warnings" and "invitations" to relent, and then only in "self-defense". The warnings are not so much for us but for the billion-plus Muslim spectators on the sidelines, many of whom, but not all , are citizens of the green countries, who may hate American policies (as do the majorities in virtually every other country on that map as well, including our "allies'), but are not ready to sign onto the global religious war of the jihadis in the name of defending Islam. It is a sign of the weakness of global jihad that they have had to spend years preparing their populations for the use of WMD against America. Their people need all this convincing . . . because they are not convinced.

It is damning evidence that the Muslim world really does not want global jihad and never has. After 10 years of telling them that the West/infidels are committing genocide in Bosnia, Chechnya, Kosovo, Kashmir, Palestine, Afghanistan, now Iraq, with over a billion Muslims, you couldn't fill two football stadiums if you rounded up every single international jihadi fighter on the planet. And even if you included those who actively support them, but do not actually wage jihad, you still have a fraction of a fraction. That is why the jihadis have been pursuing the "holy grail" of WMD. They need to set off a war of mutual mass murder, so they truly get mutual "genocide" and in that way infect the rest of the Islamic world with the martyrdom complex that afflicts jihadis. A WMD war is the only way the jihadi death cult gets the 99% of those on the sidelines to come drink their kool aid. This is not about us.

This small band of global revolutionaries is trying to set off an apocalypse by using WMD to start a global war/civilizational clash, so that all those green countries (who have little to do with one another at this point and have not for most of the past 1000 years) then come together to form a "caliphate" in "self-defense". That is the only way jihadis will come to power. It is the only way they will ever succeed because they have nothing to show for the past 1000 years. Almost all the Islamic world - - Iraqis, Bosnians, Lebanese, Iranians, Indonesians, Kosovars, Nigerians, etc are more concerned about putting food on the table, keeping their kids safe, and taking care of their futures than going off to fight jihad.

So if the revolution of global jihad cannot convince the Islamic world to willingly go embrace jihad and fight for their cause, they will force the war to come to them. And the only way they will ever get the bees in the "infidel" beehive to come attack them in their own countries (and create their excuse for global jihad) is to go hit the beehive as hard as they can, then go run and hide behind the women and children of the "green countries" (Muslim world) so that when massive numbers of Muslim civilians then get killed in the crossfire, they can then scream to the spectators who are sitting on the fence - - "let all Muslims join us now to go fight jihad". That is why they have long needed something sufficiently large to provoke a retaliation large enough to set this train in motion. That is the playbook. Not that map.


1,144 posted on 09/18/2006 8:43:26 AM PDT by callmejoe
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