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Big Bang's afterglow fails intergalactic 'shadow' test
University of Alabama in Huntsville ^ | 01 September 2006 | Staff (press release)

Posted on 09/01/2006 8:10:03 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

The apparent absence of shadows where shadows were expected to be is raising new questions about the faint glow of microwave radiation once hailed as proof that the universe was created by a "Big Bang."

In a finding sure to cause controversy, scientists at UAH found a lack of evidence of shadows from "nearby" clusters of galaxies using new, highly accurate measurements of the cosmic microwave background.

A team of UAH scientists led by Dr. Richard Lieu, a professor of physics, used data from NASA's Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe (WMAP) to scan the cosmic microwave background for shadows caused by 31 clusters of galaxies.


The apparent absence of shadows where shadows were expected to be is raising new questions about the faint glow of microwave radiation once hailed as proof that the universe was created by a "Big Bang."

"Among the 31 clusters that we studied, some show a shadow effect and others do not," said Lieu. If the standard Big Bang theory of the universe is accurate and the background microwave radiation came to Earth from the furthest edges of the universe, then massive X-ray emitting clusters of galaxies nearest our own Milky Way galaxy should all cast shadows on the microwave background.

These findings are scheduled to be published in the Sept. 1, 2006, edition of the Astrophysical Journal.

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Another story about this is here.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bigbang; cosmology; genesis1; haltonarp; lettherebelight; stringtheory; thewordistruth; tvf
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To: Democrap
There had to be something to blowup because nothing is the most stable environment that can exists so there had to be something.

That's a common miscoception about the Big Bang. It wasn't an explosion in space of something, it was an explosion of space itself.

41 posted on 09/01/2006 10:27:56 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Democrap
what was there to make it unstable

Nothing is stable. Change comes with the territory.

42 posted on 09/01/2006 10:31:06 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: AFreeBird

I don't believe in dark matter. I suspect they will find that the law of gravity needs revision, that it is not the simple inverse square relation they thought. It's too bad, really, the universe should obey simple math so we can feel like we actually have a clue. :)


43 posted on 09/01/2006 10:36:06 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: doc30
That's a common miscoception about the Big Bang. It wasn't an explosion in space of something, it was an explosion of space itself.

So space was Something?

44 posted on 09/01/2006 10:41:09 AM PDT by Democrap (http://democrap.com)
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To: RightWhale
Nothing is stable.

That's what I said.

45 posted on 09/01/2006 10:42:52 AM PDT by Democrap (http://democrap.com)
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To: Democrap

There is nothing in philosophy or theology to support either view.


46 posted on 09/01/2006 10:43:38 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Democrap

What does it mean to talk about a period before there was anything to talk about?


47 posted on 09/01/2006 10:45:47 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: RightWhale
... the universe should obey simple math so we can feel like we actually have a clue. :) Sometimes I think the Universe has a sadistic sense of humor.
48 posted on 09/01/2006 10:47:57 AM PDT by AFreeBird (If American "cowboy diplomacy" did not exist, it would be necessary to invent it.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for the ping!


49 posted on 09/01/2006 11:01:45 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Democrap
So space was Something?

Aquinas answered that 700 years ago by showing Avicenna was wrong about Aristotle on that very question.

50 posted on 09/01/2006 11:06:04 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: PatrickHenry

My mentor (who is developing an MHD model of early universe formation) says it appears we need a new model in cosmology.

I'm actually kinda happy about this result. It's more in line with a new theory I've been conceptualizing. I may turn the heat up on my reserach in this area now.


51 posted on 09/01/2006 11:38:53 AM PDT by Mark Felton ("Your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.")
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To: Democrap

Space still IS something. It essentially has properties and characteristics.

It can't really be seperated from time either, the two of them together form what we call "spacetime".


52 posted on 09/01/2006 11:41:14 AM PDT by Mark Felton ("Your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.")
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To: RightWhale
"I don't believe in dark matter."

Nor do I.

53 posted on 09/01/2006 11:42:02 AM PDT by Mark Felton ("Your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.")
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To: Mark Felton
Well, there's this: NASA Finds Direct Proof of Dark Matter.
54 posted on 09/01/2006 11:44:11 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (The universe is made for life, therefore ID. Life can't arise naturally, therefore ID.)
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To: Democrap

but, while space is something, it does not appear to be an aether either.


55 posted on 09/01/2006 11:44:53 AM PDT by Mark Felton ("Your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.")
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To: PatrickHenry

I read that when it came out. I remain unconvinced.


56 posted on 09/01/2006 11:47:29 AM PDT by Mark Felton ("Your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.")
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To: PatrickHenry

While it casts doubt on alternate gravity theories there yet remain other theories that don't rely on either dark "matter" or alternate gravity theories.

It does provide insight, but remains yet only one piece of evidence.

It absolutely is not PROOF as the title states.


57 posted on 09/01/2006 11:50:42 AM PDT by Mark Felton ("Your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.")
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To: Mark Felton
It does provide insight, but remains yet only one piece of evidence. It absolutely is not PROOF as the title states.

True. But each new data point is yet another needle that an alternative theory has to thread.

58 posted on 09/01/2006 11:53:22 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (The universe is made for life, therefore ID. Life can't arise naturally, therefore ID.)
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To: Mark Felton; RightWhale


OK I got it figured out now. You guys sure make simple to understand. Boy science sure is smart. So it wasn't empty space that blowup, it was space like in my closet full of junk. And I got to tell you I don't know how that stuff got in my closet either.


59 posted on 09/01/2006 12:37:21 PM PDT by Democrap (http://democrap.com)
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To: Democrap

I deal with it like this: the whole thing is an illusion. We could follow Einstein's example and see if we can explain how the illusion works.


60 posted on 09/01/2006 12:55:20 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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