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Peter Jackson Takes Over Mel Gibson’s Movie
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Posted on 08/31/2006 8:45:18 PM PDT by Hal1950

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To: pcottraux

Well, Kong just wasn't the artistic triumph (or smash hit) everyone hoped for.

Jackson won armfuls of Oscars for Return Of The King... Kong didn't even get nominated for anything, and rightly so.

Despite it's impressive modern sheen, it was basically just a third re-telling of the same old story with no dramatic interest for the viewer.


21 posted on 08/31/2006 9:10:14 PM PDT by Jhensy
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To: ConorMacNessa

Thanks for the info! I think the movie alteration can be forgiven -- otherwise, we wouldn't have had McQueen!


22 posted on 08/31/2006 9:10:32 PM PDT by JennysCool (Roll out the Canarble Wagon!)
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To: Jhensy
Well, Kong just wasn't the artistic triumph (or smash hit) everyone hoped for.

Wrong on both counts.

It was basically just a third re-telling of the same old story with no dramatic interest for the viewer.

Okay, scratch that. Wrong on all three accounts. I recall applause in the theater at the end of the movie, which I'd never heard before.

Kong didn't even get nominated for anything, and rightly so.

Ouch. Wrong on all FOUR accounts. It was nominated for best sound.

23 posted on 08/31/2006 9:17:49 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: ConorMacNessa

yeah but who could forget the grit that hollywood added with those American characters?

The focused resolve of "the cooler king"? The scenes where he just bounced that baseball for months on end to while away the bordom?

Hollywood did well with that. Its film classic

24 posted on 08/31/2006 9:19:52 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: JennysCool

My grandfather took me to see the great escape at the fox theater in atlanta in i think 65.absolutely loved it and still do.McQueen helped make the flick and have been a fan of his ever since.


25 posted on 08/31/2006 9:25:08 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: Jhensy
It was basically just a third re-telling of the same old story with no dramatic interest for the viewer.

Spectacularly wrong. Despite being a remake, its take on the material was so filled with imagination and creativity, I found it to be one of the freshest and most original movies of 2005.

26 posted on 08/31/2006 9:26:44 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: imahawk

It's one of my favorite movies. Just perfectly cast.


27 posted on 08/31/2006 9:27:21 PM PDT by JennysCool (Roll out the Canarble Wagon!)
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To: flashbunny; ecurbh; HairOfTheDog; Corin Stormhands
hollywood will ruin it in the remake

PJ certainly did justice to the Greatest Novel of the Twentieth Century, I think he'd do fine with Dam Busters

28 posted on 08/31/2006 9:31:42 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Hal1950
There is all ready one controversy if there going to change the real un-PC name of Guy Gibson black lab... the dog's name was also the code word for the raid... in the earlier dam buster movies they renamed the lab "digger"
29 posted on 08/31/2006 9:33:21 PM PDT by tophat9000 (If it was illegal French Canadians would La Raza back them? Racist back their race over country)
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To: Hal1950

French caption:

Largage d'une bombe cylindrique

Looks like a cylinder.

30 posted on 08/31/2006 9:40:02 PM PDT by Semi Civil Servant (Colorado: the original Red State.)
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To: tarheelswamprat
No, it was cylindrical, and was launched from the plane with reverse/backwards spin which allowed it to skip across the water, but then dive down when in proximity to the dam.

Andy Serkis will play the bomb. They'll use motion capture and CGI to recreate the effect of him rolling across the water ...

31 posted on 08/31/2006 9:45:44 PM PDT by PackerBronco
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To: flashbunny
hollywood will ruin it in the remake

Most of Hollywood would root for Hitler nowadays, if it would bring down Bush. But Jackson is not like that.

32 posted on 08/31/2006 9:57:50 PM PDT by Defiant (Let the Muzzies travel on their own airlines so they don't endanger the rest of us.)
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To: ConorMacNessa
Just what the world needs another 3 hr Pete Jackson sleeping pill!

BTW I am a Tolkien fan, those flicks were pretty good, too much left out, too much put in. I could understand the neccesity of the Liv Tyler put in parts, (Hollyweird romance scenes), but the SOB skipped half of the last book!

The 3 hr monkey movie, was a close runner up for the Nobull prize for curing insomnia. First prize still goes to Dune.

33 posted on 08/31/2006 10:12:09 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather be carrying a shotgun with Dick, than riding shotgun with a Kennedyl! *-0(:~{>)
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To: pcottraux
"Learn his lesson"?

Yeah. Rule #1 don't even think you can improve on a classic!

Rule #2 Don't believe your own PR!

34 posted on 08/31/2006 10:13:09 PM PDT by Bommer
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To: Bommer
Yeah. Rule #1 don't even think you can improve on a classic!

That's stupid. He wasn't trying to "improve" anything. The new one is a loving tribute to the old classic, which is Jackson's own all-time favorite movie.

35 posted on 08/31/2006 10:15:40 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: tarheelswamprat; macamadamia
The problem was to make sure that the bomb didn't sink too rapidly, nor skip over the dam. The whole idea was to use the overpressure of the bomb, together with the already considerable water pressure at the base of the dam, to cause the dam to fail.

To get this to happen, the bombers had to be flying at the right height, at the right speed, and release at the right time, all at once.

The bombsights were something out of the ordinary too-- IIRC they were jury-rigged together with floodlights and wood supports, so that when the lights intersected on the water (height OK), and some landmark (maybe the towers at either end of the dam?) were OK, AND the speed was right, THEN the release should occur.

They took endless runs practicing.

Source: my hazy memory, cribbed from Time-Life books on WWII.

Cheers!

36 posted on 08/31/2006 10:30:15 PM PDT by grey_whiskers
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To: Hal1950
Ping to previous post, typed your name wrong ("ell" for "one") and it was rejected.

Cheers!

37 posted on 08/31/2006 10:31:04 PM PDT by grey_whiskers
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To: grey_whiskers

Dambusters is the movie that Bog Geldof is watching as Pink in the movie version of Pink Floyd's The Wall. They show footage from the film (including keeping the dog's name n***er). In the DVD commentary, I think Roger Waters even makes a point to ridicule Americans being so defensive about that word. (which is funny since he's a grade-A lib).

DHF


38 posted on 08/31/2006 11:16:49 PM PDT by Der_Hirnfänger
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To: pcottraux
The new one is a loving tribute to the old classic,

Love tribute????? BWAAAAAAA!!!! Yeah right. Hollywood makes loving tributes. Hollywood makes remakes because it can't think up original storys like King Kong anymore, it was hugely popular, and they thought they could make it better! Only thing is that they made it more boring.

When I walked out of the movie with my 8 year old son, I asked him how he liked it. he told me that he liked the B&W one better. CGI does not make a movie, and with Peter Jacksons over blown, 1 hour too long epics, its clear he is more into himself then a good story!

39 posted on 09/01/2006 7:30:48 AM PDT by Bommer
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To: Hal1950

Yah know, ever since the awful Pearl Harbor movie, I've been waiting for some aerial epics to be made or remade, fictional, like Sky Captain, or historical. The CGI aircraft were wonderful!
I have been VERY disappointed.
I am happy to see that Dambusters is being remade, but what about some action-intense movies? WWI, WWII or just plain fiction. Maybe a remake of 633 Squadron?
Something?


40 posted on 09/01/2006 7:41:49 AM PDT by Little Ray (If you want to be a martyr, we want to martyr you.)
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