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MANATEE BONES LEAD STANFORD SCIENTIST TO NEW INSIGHT ON EVOLUTION
Stanford University Medical Center ^ | 28 August 2006 | Staff (press release)

Posted on 08/31/2006 8:31:01 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

Most research professors spend their days writing grants, teaching and managing graduate students, so when Stanford’s David Kingsley, PhD, ventured from his office to his lab, pulled out a scale and started weighing 114 pairs of manatee pelvic bones, it was a sign that something was afoot.

The results of Kingsley’s efforts make his departure from the routine worthwhile. He found that in almost every case, the left pelvic bone outweighed the right. Although seemingly trivial in difference—the average left pelvic bone is a mere10 percent larger than its right-side partner—that difference carries big weight in evolutionary significance. It suggests that mutations in the same gene may be responsible for the evolution of leglessness in animals as distantly related as 1,000-pound manatees in Florida and fish smaller than an index finger living in lakes and streams around the world.

“It’s striking that evolution might use the same mechanism over and over,” said Kingsley, professor of developmental biology at the Stanford University School of Medicine and a Howard Hughes Medical Institute investigator. His study appears in the Aug. 28 online issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

The reason the asymmetric pelvic bones are important goes back to work Kingsley published in 2004. In that paper, Kingsley’s lab showed that mutations in a gene called PitX1 were responsible for the loss of pelvic fins in three different species of a fish called the threespine stickleback. In each of the species, the mutation arose independently as the fish evolved in lakes or streams where a more streamlined shape held some evolutionary advantage.

At the time, Kingsley’s work was the first to show that a single gene could be responsible for a large evolutionary change, such as the loss of an entire set of fins, in natural populations. What was particularly interesting was that the mutation arose independently in populations separated by thousands of miles. Mouse researchers had also known that a PitX1 mutation eliminated hind limbs in mice, albeit under artificial conditions. What’s more, in both mice and sticklebacks with a PitX1 mutation, the residual pelvis tended to be larger on the left than the right.

That finding is what started Kingsley thinking about manatees – large, ocean-going mammals – as well as whales, snakes and skinks, all of which evolved from four-legged ancestors. He theorized that if a PitX1 mutation was responsible for pelvic reductions in several species of sticklebacks and had a similar role in laboratory mice, it might be a mutation used widely by evolution.

As luck would have it, Kingsley made contact with Sentiel Rommel, PhD, a manatee researcher from the Florida Fish and Wildlife Research Institute, who had collected pelvic bones from manatees during autopsies. Kingsley convinced Rommel to send the collection of bones, each about the size of a child’s fist. When Kingsley weighed the rudimentary bones, he found that manatees showed the same characteristic asymmetry found in mice and sticklebacks.

The asymmetry observed in manatee pelvic bones suggests that PitX1 may have been used repeatedly as animals evolved from their four-legged ancestors. However, as Kingsley noted, further studies are now needed to pinpoint the DNA changes in Pitx1 or other genes that are associated with pelvic reduction in manatees and other organisms. Although he has no genetic evidence of a PitX1 mutation in manatees, he’s trying to strengthen his case by extending his asymmetry observations to other animals. Unfortunately, he has yet to find a cache of snake or whale pelvises.

Still, Kingsley is heartened by the morphological similarities his team has observed between pelvic reduction in very different animals. “It’sencouraging because it means that if you are looking at the genetic mechanisms of evolution in one animal, your results may turn out to be surprisingly general,” hesaid.

In this same paper, Kingsley and postdoctoral scholar Michael Shapiro, PhD, show evidence that distantly related species of ninespine sticklebacks, in addition to their threespine cousins, evolved their sleeker shape with help from a PitX1 mutation.

This work was funded by the Helen Hay Whitney Foundation, the Burroughs Wellcome Fund and the National Institutes of Health.


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Everyone be nice.
1 posted on 08/31/2006 8:31:03 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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2 posted on 08/31/2006 8:32:28 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (The universe is made for life, therefore ID. Life can't arise naturally, therefore ID.)
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To: PatrickHenry
THANKS, PH :D
3 posted on 08/31/2006 8:36:04 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just b/c your paranoid; Doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you. :^)
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To: PatrickHenry

Did they find that libs were apes?????


4 posted on 08/31/2006 8:36:56 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: PatrickHenry

Symmetry in animals is a funny thing. We are supposedly bilaterally symmetric, yet we aren't. Starfish with five legs are bilaterally symmetric. Not only that, but the proteins in the cells are left ot right, not both. No symmetry at all when you look close enough.


5 posted on 08/31/2006 8:37:36 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: PatrickHenry

Pretty interesting. It should lead to some additional research by others.


6 posted on 08/31/2006 8:38:09 AM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: HarleyLady27

"Did they find that libs were apes?????"

Huh? What does that have to do with this story? Did you read the story? Do you have any comment on its contents?


7 posted on 08/31/2006 8:39:08 AM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: PatrickHenry

Let me be the first....oh the hugh manatee


8 posted on 08/31/2006 8:39:21 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: PatrickHenry
Everyone be nice.

Sounds like a plan! :)

9 posted on 08/31/2006 8:40:48 AM PDT by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: HarleyLady27
Did they find that libs were apes?????

were ???

10 posted on 08/31/2006 8:41:41 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Former SAC Trained Killer)
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To: PatrickHenry
"---The asymmetry observed in manatee pelvic bones suggests that PitX1 may have been used repeatedly as animals evolved from their four-legged ancestors. However, as Kingsley noted, further studies are now needed to pinpoint the DNA changes in Pitx1 or other genes that are associated with pelvic reduction in manatees and other organisms. Although he has no genetic evidence of a PitX1 mutation in manatees, he’s trying to strengthen his case by extending his asymmetry observations to other animals. Unfortunately, he has yet to find a cache of snake or whale pelvises."---

A little bit annoying to me (mostly this author's writing):

---No evidence of PitX1 mutation in subject animal (Manatee)
---Unable to find supporting observations in other animals.
---Still looking for other subjects to corroborate pelvis reduction theory - article says unable to find them.

Yet the author says, "The asymmetry observed in manatee pelvic bones suggests that PitX1 may have been used repeatedly as animals evolved from their four-legged ancestors."

Okay, with respect to my points stated from the article itself, how does the author come to this conclusion? ...Suggests it may have been used REPEATEDLY? Don't put the cart before the horse, buddy.
11 posted on 08/31/2006 8:42:01 AM PDT by TitansAFC ("Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead.")
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To: PatrickHenry
Most women have a one hooter that's bigger than the other hooter. Evenutally we will evolve one giant udder.

(Runs out the door...)

12 posted on 08/31/2006 8:42:54 AM PDT by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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To: PatrickHenry
MANATEE BONES LEAD STANFORD SCIENTIST TO NEW INSIGHT ON EVOLUTION

Hugh Manatee ----> Humanity

13 posted on 08/31/2006 8:42:56 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: PatrickHenry
“It’s striking that evolution might use the same mechanism over and over,” said Kingsley

Or, maybe not ~ unless "evolution" is simply a demigod or other supernatural being without much creative talent.

What we have here is a finding that a single gene with a specific result (reduced pelvic size and/or leglessness) may be found in numerous species who are not closely related ~ and whose common ancestor undoubtedly existed at a time before the gene in question.

Could be there are mechanisms other than sex that pass along genes like this, and that it's the same gene.

Or, that the gene in question can be modified only a certain way, and always with the same result.

Or, alternatively, that the operators of the intergalactic cruisers who left these critters behind designed them that way.

Or, .......

14 posted on 08/31/2006 8:43:13 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: MineralMan

YES I read the WHOLE article, and if I feel like making a joke, then I'll make it....to bad you have no humor in your day....it shows....


15 posted on 08/31/2006 8:43:34 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: meowmeow

Ah, the uniboob, as seen in "Kung Pow: Enter The Fist."


16 posted on 08/31/2006 8:47:48 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: PatrickHenry

Maybe this explains why manatees taste like beef, yet are healthy like fish.
(oh and the gravy goes great over red potatoes).


17 posted on 08/31/2006 8:48:51 AM PDT by Waverunner
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To: TitansAFC
Don't put the cart before the horse, buddy.

It's called a prediction or hypothesis (or perhaps a conjecture). At any rate, it's a suggestion for a line of research, something that never seems to happen in pseudosciences like ID.

18 posted on 08/31/2006 8:49:22 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: HarleyLady27

IDers make us snippy. I got your joke.


19 posted on 08/31/2006 8:52:34 AM PDT by RippyO
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To: PatrickHenry

Maybe a scientist can help me. In some instances it is thought that limbs evolved and marine animals became land animals. In other instances the land animals went to sea and became marine animals. Presumably it started in the sea. So does this mean that the genetic mutation pathway that developed the legs in the firstplace is different from the pathway evolution took (under this theory) to take them away? Or did the initial evolution of legs just happen to have a short cut for future reversals?


20 posted on 08/31/2006 8:56:15 AM PDT by Rippin
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