Posted on 08/31/2006 5:46:18 AM PDT by RedCell
HOW SOON FOR THE IRANIAN NUCLEAR BOMB?
This whole "being the President" thing is just so easy, isn't it? Why, George Bush could certainly handle the job if he just wasn't so dumb, right?
OK ...let's consider Iran. In just a few paragraph here I'll have you saying "Damn, I'm sure glad I'm not the one who has to make these decisions."
First: Iran is working toward a nuclear bomb. I don't care how many times Mahmoud Ahmadinejad talks about nuclear power plants for electricity, every sane person in this country knows that a nuclear weapon is his true goal.
Let's spend just a few moments thinking of what happens when Iran gets the bomb. There are several scenarios. A nuclear strike on Israel is one, of course. Would the West retaliate? Perhaps. Remember, though ... Ahmadinejad and his Islamic fascist pals don't really care how many of their countrymen are killed in any retaliation. They way they look at it, they're fighting and dying for Allah, and this guarantees their place in paradise. Kill infidels, or die trying to kill infidels. It make no difference. In their twisted vision of their religious duty, it's all the same.
So ... Iran makes a few nuclear weapons. They then use the porous border between the U.S. and Mexico to bring one of those bombs into the U.S. Perhaps in the well-shielded back of a minivan. They park the minivan in a garage of some ordinary house in an obscure neighborhood in some mid-sized American city. Then they conduct a nuclear test in Iran. Surprise! We have the bomb!
As the world is reacting to the Iranian nuclear test, some deranged Mullah steps up to the microphones to inform the world that there is a bomb just like the one they tested somewhere in the United States. There's another in some Western European country. The world is then informed that both of these bombs will be detonated unless certain Islamic demands are met.
What demands? Well, let's start with the removal of all U.S. and Western troops out of the Middle East. Then all Jews are told to leave Israel or face annihilation. The U.S. is told that if we dare to defend Israel, the bomb will be detonated. In short order the Islamic fascists have complete control over the entire Middle East. All moderate Arab governments will fall. The Persians of Iran will rule. All oil supplies to the Western world will be held hostage to Iranian demands.
Now ... is there anything in this scenario thus far that you think is absurd? Can you not see things playing out pretty much this way? Sure, there are as many possibilities are there are people capable of dreaming them up. Any way you look at it, Iran with a nuclear bomb isn't a warm and fuzzy thought.
So .. what do we do?
There are three main alternatives.
1. Diplomacy 2. Sanctions against Iran 3. Military action
Diplomacy?
Tell me, please, how that is going to work. The Islamic world sees America as weak. When George Bush first initiated the war against Radical Islam we were seen as strong and full of resolve. The Arabic world responded to that image of strength and determination. Libya immediately halted its weapons programs. Saudi Arabia started to institute reforms that called for more democratic processes. Syria was trembling in fear that American troops would not stop at its border with Iraq.
Then ... the left got rolling. Democrats' hatred of George Bush overwhelmed any resolve they may have had to defeat Islamic fascism. Islamic fascists who once feared that a dangerous and resolute America had been pushed too far suddenly saw signs of weakness. The "Bush lied - People died" campaign was in full swing, and Islamists were in full smile. Democrats were pushing for a timetable to war, a timetable that Islamic murderers would use as one for conquest.
Diplomacy? Sorry .. but we're operating from a position of weakness in any diplomatic discussions with Iran. Why, we're getting ready to give a former Iranian President president Mohammad Khatami a royal welcome to the U.S. next week? In fact, Mr. Appeasement himself, Jimmy Carter, is going to swap spit with Khatami in Washington DC! This Islamic murderer is going to be permitted to speak at the National Cathedral! All of this ... every bit ... the visit, the meeting with Carter and the speech in our National Cathedral will be viewed by Islamists as a sign of American weakness.
If you think that negotiating with Iran from a position of perceived weakness will do the trick, then go for it! Let us know how that works out for you!
Sanctions?
Let me read to you the headlines in the world's major newspapers just a few weeks after we impose sanctions on Iraq.
* Iranian Sanctions Bring Hunger * Women and Children Suffer Under Oppressive Sanctions * Iranian Children are Dying for Lack of Medicines
Get the picture?
As soon as we impose sanctions the left's publicity machine will crank up in perfect step with Islamic propagandists. Ahmadinejad is not above starving his own people to get images of death that can be broadcast worldwide and blamed on the Americans and their sanctions. In the meantime, Russia will make sure that the Iranian nuclear program isn't hurt. Who knows, maybe a little help will come from that strange little gargoyle in North Korea as well!
With sanctions the United States will soon be painted as a horrific monster that is set out on a course of genocide against the Iranian people. The world media will be all-too-happy to promote that image.
Military Action?
The simplistic solution would seem to be to just send in the military to destroy as much of Iran's nuclear infrastructure as possible. You do know, don't you, that Ahmadinejad has surrounded the Iranian nuclear development sites with as many Iranian school children and women as possible. He has taken steps to guarantee that any Israeli or U.S. strike against his nuclear program will result in the deaths of hundreds, perhaps thousands of women and children. If our planes and bombs don't kill them, then he will ... with all blame placed on America.
Remember ... there are new rules out there. While Muslims can get a pass on shooting children in the back, the United States simply cannot take any military action, no matter how grave the threat may be, if that military action would result in the death of a civilian, let alone a woman or child.
There are your options. Today the Iranian government is supposed to tell us whether or not it is going to cease it's nuclear enrichment program. Do you want to sit in the Oval Office and make the decision as to how we respond?
LOOKING LIKE SANCTIONS FOR NOW ...
The conventional wisdom is that the next move against Iran will be sanctions.
When Iran tells the world, probably today, to go play with itself, something will have to be done. After all, we don't want to look completely French, do we? So what will it be?
Probably sanctions. In fact, we're working up a list of sanctions right now!
So what kind of sanctions? Real ones that will really, really hurt? Of course not. Why? Because real sanctions (like, for instance, on oil sales) would actually hurt. Instead, here are some of the "sanctions" that are likely to be proposed:
* Restrictions on the import of nuclear equipment and material. Yawn. Like that stopped North Korea.
* Measures that might restrict the travel of Iran's leaders. Like to where? The United States? I'm sure they're shaking in their boots.
* And, according to news reports, the United States would look to pressure European markets to stop lending money to Iran. Oh boy...this is sure to have Tehran shaking in their boots! There are banks in the world that would lend money to anybody.
So at the end of the day, Iran is going to defy the world, and there will be no consequences, just like the rogue terrorist state knew there wouldn't be. After all, it took 12 years of U.N. resolutions before the U.S. invaded Iraq and put Saddam Hussein in jail. Iran's just getting started.
Just as always, the U.N. is a complete joke. Aside from calls of condemnation and threats of sanctions, nothing will happen. And the Islamic terrorist beat goes on.
Come on now, all we need to do is get the UN to pass another resolution!
So ... Iran makes a few nuclear weapons. They then use the porous border between the U.S. and Mexico to bring one of those bombs into the U.S. Perhaps in the well-shielded back of a minivan. They park the minivan in a garage of some ordinary house in an obscure neighborhood in some mid-sized American city. Then they conduct a nuclear test in Iran. Surprise! We have the bomb!
As the world is reacting to the Iranian nuclear test, some deranged Mullah steps up to the microphones to inform the world that there is a bomb just like the one they tested somewhere in the United States. There's another in some Western European country. The world is then informed that both of these bombs will be detonated unless certain Islamic demands are met.
Wow! How true, and how scary (because it is totally true) is this article? Perhaps compassionate conservatism will see us through. I will not be holding my breath. And no, this is not Bush's fault. He is but one in a long line of "leaders" who have presided while the country has gone to Hell, both domestically and in foreign affairs.
It has been quite a while since a surprise attack was used in a large scale war. I think Iran would be sufficiently surprised and the world would take notice if Tehran woke up to a thunderous storm of precision munitions from America and Israel.
There would sure be political hell to pay. But history would paint it as a brilliant move.
Let's Deliver A Nuke Tomorrow!
"This is why Conservatives are jumping up and down concerning our wide open borders. 5 years after 9/11 and we are still allowing our borders to be very porous."
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That's not the main reason why conservatives want the borders closed. If it were a national security issue something meaningful might have been done.
The threat of bringing in a bomb is probably greater at our ports.
Make that an EMP, fry all the electronics. That should slow them down.
Fortunately for the world, we had leaders in WW2 that understood that Germany and Japan could not be allowed to get the bomb, they didn't wait to see if they would use it wisely, The same situation applies NOW........someone has to make the call...........and it sure as hell won't be (A)Europe (B)UN (C) any Arab nations..........that kind of leaves it up to the US. Now do we have the leadership?
If not civilization will suffer for it.
No, no and no. Again, if Iran were to lob a couple nuclear Shehabs at Israel, Israel would a) shoot them down with their Arrow anti-ballistic system, and b) fire 10 back and turn Iran into a steaming crater. Iran's goal is to become the dominant mideast power, not get turned into dust.
"So ... Iran makes a few nuclear weapons. They then use the porous border between the U.S. and Mexico to bring one of those bombs into the U.S. Perhaps in the well-shielded back of a minivan. They park the minivan in a garage of some ordinary house in an obscure neighborhood in some mid-sized American city."
Yes. That is what they are plotting. Obscure neighborhood? I don't think so. I think we all know what city they are targeting in such a scenario. Police the border. Get listening agents into Venezeula. Penetrate the Tri-border region in Columbia. And get detectors up around the City. AQ operatives have declared in their interviews they have intended a 2nd attack around 2010 - something that would deal a severe economic blow. Iran will be all too willing to provide them with the means (van nuke) if we allow it.
With their status now assured in the Middle East, Iran now waits for the appeasers on the left to take over Congress and the Presidency to complete their humiliation of the US. The McGovernites will use an Iranian bomb to castigate Bush for not negotiating with the mullahs ....if we had only let Jimmy Carter give us peace in our time etc.
All the Iranians need to do is explode one crude bomb ...my bet is before the end of 2007.
The Muzzies, and interestingly, the NKs, like to tie their surprises to historical events. I look for something around election week in the US.
Kill 'em all. Let Allah sort 'em out!
Ping
Powerful argument.
I don't know about the rest of you but I fully intend to do everything I can to pressure my congress critter to support a formal Declaration of War against Iran and get this thing over with. Iran must never, never, never be permitted to get the bomb.
I'll probably be dead before this nightmare scenario plays out, but the rest of you will likely be living in caves after nuclear winter sets in. You have two options. Direct action now, or nuclear winter (if you survive.)
This won't be resolved until one of our cities is a smoking crater. Whereas on Sept. 12, 2001, I was certain we had the resolve to do whatever it takes, sacrifice whatever necessary to rid the world of this scourge, time has proven that, instead that the White House is simply going to hope it just goes away. It's not going away.
The mullahcracy's bomb program won't complete its work.
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