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Tom Cruise's Behavior and Scientology: A Link?
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| 8-24-06
| BILL BLAKEMORE
Posted on 08/30/2006 6:14:28 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser
Tom Cruise's Behavior and Scientology: A Link?
The Debate Continues As the Controversial Religion Thrives
By BILL BLAKEMORE
Aug. 24, 2006 - "In my opinion," says Rick Ross, who has spent years studying cults and religious groups, "(Tom Cruise's) meltdown is likely attributable to Scientology. He's made some bad career choices lately. He's damaged goods. How do you go from the world's biggest movie star to someone Viacom dumps?"
The New York Times this morning said simply that Cruise has gone "into full Scientology mode." Indeed, his recent responses to Matt Lauer, inveighing against modern psychiatric care, reflect Scientology's claim that its own methods of "auditing" people to get them "clear" are the only true way to win genuine happiness. And some non-Scientologists wonder if Cruise's jump up onto Oprah's couch was a demonstration of the self confidence granted when one gets "clear."
Once again, the public spotlight swings to the unusual religion of Scientology. It was started some 50 years ago by science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard and based (by all accounts) on a story that includes intergalactic tribulations long ago between extraterrestrials and a cruel emperor named Xenu.
Not for the first time, does this notoriety exist. "A hugely profitable global racket that survives by intimidating members and critics in a Mafia-like manner ... a depraved, yet thriving enterprise" is how Time magazine's in-depth investigative cover story put it in 1991.
Tax Exempt Status For Scientology
And as recently as this February, an in-depth examination in Rolling Stone laid out details of "America's most controversial religion" -- but religion, nonetheless, which is part of the reason the IRS, after years of examining Scientology's massive and complicated coffers, had to acknowledge tax-exempt status, finally won by the group in the early 1990's on the grounds that it was a charitable organization.
"Scientology made significant inroads into Congress during the Clinton administration," says sociologist Stephen A. Kent at the University of Alberta. "Other governments including the U.K., France and Germany have not given Scientology tax exempt status," he says.
Kent says that, following contacts between Scientologist John Travolta and President Clinton, the U.S. State Department became an advocate in Germany on behalf of Scientology.
Cult expert Ross says the Germans are extremely wary of Scientology, and consider it a fascist organization.
Kent adds that active lobbying on Capitol Hill got prominent Scientologists -- including musicians Isaac Hayes and Chick Correa, as well as actor Travolta -- before congressional committees.
And during the current Bush administration? Professor Kent cites a 4:30 pm meeting listed on the official schedule of Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage on June 13, 2003 with Tom Cruise and Scientology official Kurt Weiland.
Scientology's Membership Discrepancy
But Scientology's claims that it is growing steadily around the globe -- they sometimes claim as many as 8 million to 10 million members worldwide in dozens of countries -- are derided by its critics.
"If I had to guess, I might say, perhaps, 150,000," says Kent, whose website archives some of his studies of the group.
Both Kent and cult expert Ross believe that Scientology is, in fact, shrinking and falling on relatively hard times.
"The exposure that comes through the Internet," says Kent, "seems to have had a negative impact on Scientology."
Ross's extensive archives on various cult and cult-like groups, including many on Scientology, can be found here. They have extensive documentation that tends to substantiate the charges that have been made repeatedly and continually in the press over the years.
Those charges include that Scientology requires new members to sign releases that give the church permission to keep them from conventional psychiatric care; to withhold its own records of members' case histories; and even, to keep members locked up if the church deems they are in need of Scientology's particular form of personal care.
ABC News has contacted the church of Scientology for comment and interview -- first, through Scientology International's official spokeswoman, Pat Harney, at their headquarters in Clearwater, Florida -- who referred us to Scientology's New York office where, after a brief and cordial conversation on the phone, Mr. John Carmichael promised to send us within a few hours, e-mail responses to questions we gave him.
Subsequent efforts to reach him by phone -- he did tell us he was very busy "preparing for a human rights conference in a couple of days" -- have been unsuccessful.
We are still looking forward to his response.
Who's Telling The Truth?
For most people outside Scientolgy, the church remains a conundrum. On the one hand, there are the critics and the horror stories...reports of forced labor camps to punish members who have strayed; of personal finances wiped out (among those non-celebrity members who don't have millions of dollars buffering their choices); of mental confusion and even some suicides. There are the tabloid reports of Tom Cruise converting immediate family members and the accusations that he has launched an essentially abusive relationship with his fiancée Katie Holmes. She is reported by some to have undergone a notable personality change and to be traveling now with a Scientology "minder."
And on the other hand, there are the believers. The regular everyday people who say Scientology has made their lives better.
And there's the warm, humorous, sensitive, highly visible image of John Travolta, who, when asked about his religion, explains patiently and kindly with nothing at all like Cruise's televised couch-leaping and self-righteous verbal assaults.
Archangel Michael -- who became such a hero in Travolta's film, "Michael", when he told the little terrier, "Remember, no matter what they tell you, you can't have too much sugar" -- just doesn't seem to square up with the Cruise "Top Gun", devilish concentration in his eyes as he barrels down, indulging his righteous obsession.
But these are just appearances -- actors' parts -- on the surface of an organization that, in spite of 15 years of thorough professional probing and reporting, still thrives and promises genuine happiness to those willing to let it take the lead.
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Dated but an interesting read:
http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/ReadersDigest.htm
Readers Digest
Scientology: Anatomy of a Frightening Cult
The faithful inner core serve as thieves, shills and spies. The shocking story behind one of the most dangerous "religious cults" in America today
By Eugene M. Methvin
May, 1980 -
In THE LATE 1940s, pulp writer L. Ron Hubbard declared, "Writing for a penny a word is ridiculous. If a man really wants to make a million dollars, the best way would be to start his own religion."
Hubbard did start his own religion, calling it the "Church of Scientology," and it has grown into an enterprise today grossing an estimated $100 million a year worldwide. His churches have paid him a percentage of their gross, usually ten percent, and stashed untold riches away in bank accounts in Switzerland and elsewhere under his and his wife's control. Surrounded by aides who cater to his every whim, he reportedly lives on church-owned property, formerly a resort, in Southern California.
Scientology is one of the oldest, wealthiest-and most dangerous-of the major "new religions" or cults operating in America today. Some of its fanatic operatives have engaged in burglary, espionage, kidnapping and smear campaigns to further their goals. Says Assistant US. Attorney Raymond Banoun, who directed a massive investigation that resulted in conspiracy or theft convictions of nine top Scientology officials in Washington, D.C., last October "The evidence presented to the court shows brazen criminal campaigns against private and public organizations and individuals. The Scientology officials hid behind claims of religious liberty while inflicting injuries upon every element of society."
Sci-Fi Fantasy. In 1950 Hubbard, then 39, published Dianetics The Modern Science of Mental Health. In 1954 he founded the first Church of Scientology in Washington, D.C. By 1978 the organization claimed 38 U.S. churches, with 41 more abroad, and 172 "missions" and 5,437,000 members worldwide. These claims are highly doubtful; critical observers have estimated a hard core of around 3000 full-time staff and no more than 30,000 adherents in the United States.
Even so, Hubbard may live more regally than did the Maharajah of Jaipur, whose 30-room mansion and 57-acre estate in England Hubbard bought in the late 1950s as "world headquarters" for his growing movement. His retinue includes young women, known officially as "messengers," who light his ever-present cigarettes and catch the ashes. They record every word he says, including his frequent obscene outbursts of rage. They help him out of bed in the morning, run his shower, dress him. They scrub his office for a daily "white glove" inspection and rinse his laundry in 13 fresh waters. (Former members say he erupts volcanically if he sniffs soap on his clothes.) Hubbard attracts and holds his worshipful followers by his amazing capacity to spin out an endless science-fiction fantasy in which he is the supreme leader of a chosen elite. He tells them he is a nuclear physicist who was severely wounded while serving with the U.S. Navy in World War 11. "Taken crippled and blinded" to a Naval hospital, he claims to have "worked his way back to fitness and full perception in less than two years." In the process, he developed the "research" that led him to discover "Dianetics" and Scientology, the answers to most of mankind's ills. The truth is something else. Hubbard did take a college course in molecular and atomic physics, which he flunked. He served in the Navy, but Navy records do not indicate he saw combat or was ever wounded. He was discharged and later given a 40 - Percent disability pension because of an ulcer, arthritis and other ailments. About this time he was petitioning the Veterans Administration for psychiatric care to treat "long periods of moroseness and suicidal inclinations." He was also arrested for petty theft in connection with checks. When he wrote to the FBI that communist spies were after him, an agent attached a note to one of his letters "Make 'appears mental' card."
"Robot-like." Since Dianetics Hubbard's bizarre "philosophy" has expanded into a 25-million-word collection of books, articles and tape recorded lectures. Hubbard claims to have traced human existence back 74 trillion years, suggesting it began on Venus. Today's earthlings are material manifestations of eternal spirits who are reincarnated time and again over the eons. But, Hubbard claims, our earthly troubles often result from ghostly mental images which he calls "engrams"painful experiences either in this life or in former incarnations.
Hubbard's original book created a sensation; he claimed to have cleared" 270 cases of engrams, thus greatly increasing the subjects' I.Q.s and curing them of assorted ills from arthritis to heart troubles. Later Hubbard said that Scientology eradicated cancer and was the only specific cure for atomic-bomb burns.
To detect engrams, Hubbard adopted a battery-powered galvanometer with a needle dial wired to two empty tin cans. Charging $150 an hour, a Scientology "minister" audits a subject by having him grip the tin cans and answer detailed questions about his present or past lives. The needle's gyrations supposedly detect the engrams.By causing the subject to "confront" the engrams, the minister claims to "clear his memory bin," thus raising both body and mind to a superhuman state of "total freedom."
The Scientology auditor also carefully records any intimate revelations, including sexual or criminal activities or marital or family troubles. According to the church's own documents and defectors' affidavits, such records are filed for blackmail purposes against any member (or member's family) who becomes a "potential trouble source" by threatening to defect, go to the authorities, or generate hostile publicity.
Of course, new prospects are never asked to swallow the whole ridiculous story at first gulp; they get it in timed-release capsules. The process transforms them into what one who went through it calls a "robot-like" state.
Split Personalities. Typical was the experience Of 17-year-old Julie Christofferson, a high-school honors graduate who was invited by an acquaintance -actually a shill - to take a "communications course." (The church advertises that these "field-staff members" get ten-percent commissions on all money their recruits pay.) Unknowingly, Julie hooked herself onto a mind-scrambling conveyor belt of hypnotic 11 training routines" developed by Hubbard. The recruit, cynically referred to as "raw meat," sits knee to knee with a "coach" for hours, her eyes closed. Next she sits, eyes open, for hours. Then the coach tries to find 11 emotional buttons." Hours of command drills follow "Lift that chair." "Move that chair." "Sit in that chair."
As Margaret Thaler Singer, a University of California psychologist who interviewed Julie and over 400 former members of cults, observes, "These routines can split the personality into a severe, dissociated state, and the recruits are hooked before they realize what is happening."
Julie found that the next step, auditing, continued to erase the boundary between reality and fantasy. In this phase, Julie exhausted all $3000 of her college savings. Then she was told she could take college level courses while going "on staff" and working full time to recruit and process new raw meat. She ended up working 60 to 80 hours a week, at a maximum salary Of $7.50 She had now reached the "robot-like" state.
Julie felt superior, one of the chosen elite of the universe. She was one of the faithful who are promised they will "go with Ron to the next planet." Thus, they are conditioned to the "us against them" outlook that characterizes so much religious and political fanaticism.
Julie Christofferson was among the lucky, however. After nine months, her parents removed her from the cult and snapped her out of her zombie-like trance. Last August, a Portland, Ore., jury found the church's conduct so fraudulent and outrageous that it awarded her $2,067,000.20 in damages.
Doctrine and Dollars. Less fortunate was Anne Rosenblum, who spent nearly six years in Scientology. During her last 15 months she was in the church's punishment unit, the "Rehabilitation Project Force." There, prisoners are guarded constantly, never left alone or allowed to speak to any outsider without permission. They cat leftovers, sleep on the floor, and fill their days with strenuous physical and menial labor, classroom study of Ron's works and grueling auditing to detect "crimes against Ron" in "this or past lives."
As defectors have attested, subjects become hysterical and psychotic in their auditing. Then they are locked in isolation. Not surprisingly, suicides occur. Last January in Clearwater, Fla., for example, a Scientology member hurled herself into the bay and drowned.
Through the years, Hubbard has continually added new grades and "levels" of belief. The "clearing course" costs $3812, but to get to the highest level, the devotee shells Out $14,295. Hubbard has punctuated his policy letters to staff with exhortations to MAKE MONEY, MAKE MORE MONEY, MAKE OTHER PEOPLE PRODUCE SO AS TO MAKE MONEY. When numbers of recruits and receipts fall off, Hubbard orders staffers onto a diet of rice and beans.
But revenues appear to have been consistently high. In 1974 the church spent $1.1 million for an old Jesuit novitiate in Oregon. In 1976 the IRS turned up $2.86 million in cash aboard Hubbard's 320-foot flagship Apollo. Moving secretly, the church paid another $8 million for a hotel and other properties in Clearwater, Fla. A top Hubbard lieutenant who recently defected has attested that the Clearwater organization alone last year was grossing as high as $1 million per week.
Dirty Tricks. In 1966 Hubbard created his own "Intelligence" organization, called the "Guardian Office" (GO). He had convinced himself that a "central agency" was behind attacks against Scientology, and his suspicion focused on the World Federation for Mental Health. "Psychiatry and the KGB operate in direct collusion," he declared. He seemed to think they worked through the FBI, CIA, various newspapers and other groups. He named his third wife, Mary Sue Hubbard, to direct his own counterattack from the Los Angeles headquarters. She defined the GO's objective "To sweep aside opposition sufficiently to create a vacuum into which Scientology can expand." The GO training program included instructions in how to make an anonymous death threat to a journal-smear an antagonistic clergyman, forge phony newspaper clips, plan and execute burglaries. Public-relations spokesmen were drilled on how to lie to the press- "to outflow false data effectively." A favorite dirty trick making anonymous phone calls to the IRS, accusing enemies of income-tax cheating and thereby inducing the IRS to audit them. Big targets were organizations that investigated Scientology or published unfavorable articles about it, newspapers, Forbes magazine, the American Medical Association, Better Business Bureau and American Psychiatric Association.
Individuals were also targeted. In 1971 Paulette Cooper, a New York free-lance writer, published a book called The Scandal of Scientology. The church responded with an elaborate campaign of litigation, theft, defamation and malicious prosecution. She got death-threatening phone calls. According to church documents later revealed, this campaign was aimed at "getting PC. incarcerated in a mental institution or in all."
It came incredibly close. Miss Cooper and her publisher were sued in several US. cities and foreign countries. In order to call off the Scientology legal war, her publisher agreed to withdraw the book. "It just wasn't worth the legal expenses," he explained.
The worst thrust, Miss Cooper says, came after a Scientology agent stole some of her stationery, faked bomb-threat letters and framed her. She was indicted by a federal grand jury on a charge of making bomb threats. She went through two years of torment until she volunteered to take a Sodium Pentothal "truth" test. Only after she passed did the government drop the charges. Defending herself cost her $28,000
Counterattack. In 1976 the FBI discovered that two Scientology agents were using forged credentials to rummage through a Justice Department office at night, and thereby uncovered the tip of a widespread espionage operation in Washington. One agent, Michael Meisner, after nearly a year as a fugitive, offered to Cooperate with the government. Meisner said that in 1974 Scientology had mounted an all-out attack on U.S. government agencies the church thought were interfering with its operations. He himself supervised Washington operations. With another agent, he broke into the IRS photographic-identification room and forged the credentials that they used to enter various government buildings, steal and copy keys left carelessly on desks, pick locks, and steal and copy government files.
With Meisner's testimony, the FBI obtained search warrants and, on July 8, 1977, raided Scientology headquarters in Washington and Los Angeles. Agents in Los Angeles seized 23,000 documents, many stolen from the U.S. government, plus burglar tools and electronic-surveillance equipment. The scope of the espionage operation was staggering. In a Justice Department agency, a Scientology employee-plant actually worked in a vault containing top secret CIA and defense documents. Other Scientologists entered on nights and weekends and ransacked offices, including the Deputy Attorney General's, stealing highly secret papers and copying them on government copiers.
On October 26, 1979, nine high Scientology officials stood before a federal judge and were found guilty of theft or conspiracy charges arising from their plot against the government. Heading the list was Mary Sue Hubbard, 48, who had supervised the operation. Hubbard himself and 24 other Scientologists were named as unindicted co-conspirators.
Since the convictions, many former Scientologists have come forward to tell stories they had previously kept secret for fear of Hubbard's Guardians. In Boston, attorney Michael Flynn has filed a $200-million federal class-action suit for fraud, outrageous conduct and breach of contract on behalf of a former Scientologist and others who have been abused by the cult.
But Hubbard and his Scientologists have not been deterred. After last fall's convictions, they issued an appeal for volunteers for the Guardian counterattack, "to ferret out those who want to stop Scientology." THE LESSONS of Hubbard's Church of Scientology arc many. As history demonstrates, when a fanatical individual employing powerful communication skills gathers an entourage of followers, infects them with his own delusion, persuades them that the outside world is hostile and they alone can save the world, and exacts blind obedience, the collective may break the fabric of civilized restraints and descend into terrifying crimes. Convictions, seized church documents, stipulated evidence and defectors' affidavits demonstrate that Scientologists have already indulged in burglary, espionage, blackmail, kidnapping, false imprisonment, and conspiracies to steal government documents and to obstruct justice; some have committed suicide. The parents of a teen-age girl, after following her into Hubbard's entourage for several weeks, issued an urgent appeal last January to help prevent "what we believe could be another mass murder or suicide."
Above all, the 20th-century record of leader-cults demonstrates that such collectives need watching. Nothing in our legal tradition requires us to shut our eyes to a racket religion simply because it masquerades and claims immunity under our First Amendment. As the late U.S. Supreme Court justice Robert H. Jackson pointed out, the Constitution is not a suicide pact.
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posted on
08/30/2006 7:44:49 PM PDT
by
nralife
To: SkyDancer
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posted on
08/30/2006 7:48:08 PM PDT
by
null and void
(Islamic communities belong in Islamic countries.- Eric in the Ozarks)
To: fight_truth_decay
Sorry, no "win" for you on this one.
You should learn to "bullbait" better, it might help you "across the bridge"
LOL
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posted on
08/30/2006 7:48:43 PM PDT
by
Central Scrutiniser
(I was in the house when the house burnt down.)
To: null and void
You should go share on the xenu.net forums, good stuff, lots of inside info about the crumbling of the cult.
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posted on
08/30/2006 7:50:33 PM PDT
by
Central Scrutiniser
(I was in the house when the house burnt down.)
To: Central Scrutiniser
Perhaps. But this is my place.
45
posted on
08/30/2006 8:00:23 PM PDT
by
null and void
(Islamic communities belong in Islamic countries.- Eric in the Ozarks)
To: null and void
Well, JT is not wearing his toupee either, he never gets photographed that way. Maybe he is gonna out himself and quit the cult.
There are rumors of something big about to happen at the cult, maybe Davy the midget is gonna step down?
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posted on
08/30/2006 8:36:36 PM PDT
by
Central Scrutiniser
(I was in the house when the house burnt down.)
To: null and void
I know about it since a friend of mine was in it and finally was able to excape it ... I pretty much know what goes on with them ..... thanks for the link.
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posted on
08/30/2006 8:44:46 PM PDT
by
SkyDancer
("The Americans on Flight 93 did more to counter terrorism than the Democrats have done in 4 years")
To: Left2Right
Right - I took a comparitive religion's class that delt with quite a few cults - we studied Scientology quite a bit since not too many of the class knew about it ...
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posted on
08/30/2006 8:46:45 PM PDT
by
SkyDancer
("The Americans on Flight 93 did more to counter terrorism than the Democrats have done in 4 years")
To: Central Scrutiniser
I don't think Miscarriage will step down voluntarily.
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posted on
08/30/2006 8:54:13 PM PDT
by
null and void
(Islamic communities belong in Islamic countries.- Eric in the Ozarks)
To: null and void
He might leave for "health" reasons, but then, that would be a problem for him, since he is OT8 he could just eliminate any bad health.
Evidently they have been selling land, and the office in my city has moved twice in the last year, each time to a smaller building, from a free standing building to a few suites in an office park.
Its gonna be interesting watching this thing break apart like a fan with a broken blade.
If JT would leave the cult, no matter what his sexuality, he will help his career out if he blows the lid off of it. America loves a good story, and this one would be a doozy!
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posted on
08/30/2006 9:02:24 PM PDT
by
Central Scrutiniser
(I was in the house when the house burnt down.)
To: Rembrandt_fan
If ever an organization can be said to be satanically inspiredCould it be.... Thetan?
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posted on
08/30/2006 9:02:43 PM PDT
by
D-fendr
To: Rocko
Hubbard discovered that starting a milk-cow "religion" would bring him more income than writing for a hundred years for Astounding would ever have. He also suckered a number of other science fiction writers with going along with his loony theories for a short time (to their embarrassment). The rumor is that Hubbard and several other sci-fi writers met at a convention and got drunk together. One of the topics under discussion was that any sci-fi writer worth anything could create a religion easily. Hubbard then made a bet with Isaac Asimov over who could create a religion first. Hubbard won, proving once again that some people will follow any goof no matter how inane his proposals are.
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08/30/2006 9:04:59 PM PDT
by
Surtur
(Free Trade is NOT Fair Trade unless both economies are equivalent.)
To: Hazcat
I've also heard that Hubbard started this BS 'church' to avoid taxes. He made the whole thing up, as is obvious to anyone who has read his science fiction. He always wrote 'tongue in cheek' and that's what Dianetics is. What are you talking about? Dianetics is real! I saw the commercials. Hell, the meaning of life is on page 237!
I haven't seen those commercials in years. They always amused me.
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08/30/2006 9:40:19 PM PDT
by
Phantom Lord
(Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
To: KoRn
Not that I've ever really cared. I see most movies I want to see on my big screen a few days, sometimes even weeks before they are released in theaters, but is that legal? lol The creators of SP, Matt and Trey, have stated that they do not mind the downloading of the show off the internet according to the FAQ on the South Park Studios website.
To: null and void
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posted on
08/30/2006 10:39:56 PM PDT
by
Central Scrutiniser
(I was in the house when the house burnt down.)
To: Central Scrutiniser
I don't know if there is a link to be proven with Cruise, maybe some others...
I get the feeling that Cruise was a nut from day one and that his "people" around him that he's only recently fired had much to do with his image.
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posted on
08/30/2006 10:42:31 PM PDT
by
MikefromOhio
(aka MikeinIraq - Go Bucks!!!)
To: Central Scrutiniser
Subsequent efforts to reach him by phone -- he did tell us he was very busy "preparing for a human rights conference in a couple of days" -- have been unsuccessful. Irony ping
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posted on
08/30/2006 10:54:56 PM PDT
by
monkfan
To: Central Scrutiniser
And during the current Bush administration? Professor Kent cites a 4:30 pm meeting listed on the official schedule of Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage on June 13, 2003 with Tom Cruise and Scientology official Kurt Weiland.
Deputy Secretary of State
Richard Aritage
Official Schedule
4:30 pm -- Tom Cruise, Kurt Weiland -- RE: Talk about keeping tax-free status for Scientology and try my darnedest to embarrass this administration.
4:45 pm -- Robert Novak -- RE: Out Valerie Pflame and try my darnedest to embarrass this administration.
5:00 pm -- Sandy Burglar
5:06 pm -- Order MORE office stationery
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posted on
08/31/2006 3:04:49 AM PDT
by
Watery Tart
(NEVER let the people draw their own conclusions. –DU 8/29/2006)
To: SkyDancer
My understanding is that L.Ron Hubbard who was a science fiction writer took one of his science fiction books and turned into a bible sort of thing called Dyanetics (??) .... and that became a religion????One story is that Robert Heinlein and Hubbard were in a bar, and they made a bet about making up a religion. The results were Heinlein's "Stranger in a Strange Land," and Hubbard's "Scientology."
Mark
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posted on
08/31/2006 3:22:52 AM PDT
by
MarkL
(When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
To: SkyDancer
My understanding is that L.Ron Hubbard who was a science fiction writer took one of his science fiction books and turned into a bible That's about it. I've read his admitted fiction (as opposed to fiction claimed as fact) since I was a kid, and what Scientology is based on isn't even one of his better science fiction stories.
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