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NIST Refutes 9/11 Conspiracy Theories (National Institute of Standards and Technology)
EE Times ^ | 08/30/2006 | George Leopold

Posted on 08/30/2006 12:57:41 PM PDT by nickcarraway

The government is taking the unusual step of responding to conspiracy theories about the destruction of the World Trade Center.

The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST, Gaithersberg, Md.), which investigated the causes of the collapse of the twin towers, said Wednesday (Aug. 30) that it has posted a "fact sheet" addressing alternatve theories about the fires and collapse. Several academics have put forth a "controlled demolition" and missile attack hypotheses for the destruction of the towers.

NIST concluded after a three-year building and fire safety investigation that the towers collapsed after being hit by separate, fuel-laden aircraft flown by terrorists. The impacts severed and damaged support columns, dislodging fireproofing insulation and dispersing jet fuel over multiple floors of each tower.

The resulting fire, which reached temperatures as high as 1,000 degrees C, weakened floors and columns, causing upper floors to collapse after sagging and pulling inward on perimeter columns. "This led to the inward bowing of the perimeter columns and failure of the south face of WTC 1 and the east face of WTC 2, initiating the collapse of each of the towers," NIST concluded.

NIST's probe rejected claims that upper floors "pancaked" on top of lower floors, causing the collapses. Other investigations pointed to huge amounts of office supplies, especially paper, as a source of fuel that significantly raised the temperature of tower fires beyond those that jet fuel would normally burn outside of an aircraft engine combustion chamber.

"Both photographic and video evidence—as well as accounts from the New York Police Department aviation unit during a half-hour period prior to collapse—support this sequence for each tower." NIST concluded.

Far more controversial are theories about explosions inside the towers. Conspiracy theorists postulate that puffs of smoke seen at the time of each collapse are evidence of a controlled demolition. Critics of the official probe also cited seismic data they claim showed evidence of explosions just before each tower collapsed. Other theories alleged missiles were fired at the doomed towers.

While both NIST and the 9/11 Commission have dismissed these theories, U.S. officials have been compelled to address allegations widely disseminated on the Internet.

"NIST respects the opinions of others who do not agree with the findings in its report on the [World Trade Center] collapses," the agency said in a statement. "However, the WTC Investigation Team stands solidly behind the collapse mechanisms for each tower and the sequences of events (from aircraft impact to collapse) as described in the report."


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KEYWORDS: 911; 911conspiracy; bush; conspiracies; fifthanniversary; moveon
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To: streetpreacher
I'm still at a loss as to why the 9-11 Commission did not investigate this collapse.

I suspect you're not really at a loss. You must have come up with some theory. After all, it's part of the conspiracy, don't you see? Why not share? We all need to know.

181 posted on 08/30/2006 5:09:47 PM PDT by Rocko (Lamont is gonna be pounded like a cheap cutlet.)
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To: streetpreacher; hellinahandcart; Rocko; VegasCowboy
These pictures were available at http://www.mdw.army.mil/news/Contingency_Planning.html but have inexplicably been pulled

Well then, you sick fanatical freak, why did the cunning and all powerful conspirators leave the story itself, WHICH INCLUDED A MONTAGE OF THOSE SAME PHOTOS, up on the website at least until March 11, 2005? HINT: The photos and the story probably just scrolled of the site, in a perfectly normal pattern.

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.mdw.army.mil/news/Contingency_Planning.html

182 posted on 08/30/2006 5:14:42 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: sagar
Actually, sun doesn't rise. It looks like it is rising from certain points of earth at certain time.

That is what they WANT you to think. Karl Rove has taken control of the sun, and some day soon....well just hide and wait

183 posted on 08/30/2006 5:17:46 PM PDT by don-o (Proudly posting without reading the thread since 1998. (stolen from one cool dude))
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To: Stultis

Good catch.


184 posted on 08/30/2006 5:17:53 PM PDT by Rocko (Lamont is gonna be pounded like a cheap cutlet.)
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To: streetpreacher
That is why the squibs racing "up" #7 seem to be a different monster to me. What would explain that?

I still don't get the squib thing, I guess, and I do not recall "squibs" racing down the towers but massive floor-by-floor expulsions of smoke and paper and dust. But it seems perfectly obviously to me that if one building is pancaking from the top down, and another building is pancaking from the bottom up, that THAT is the reason you think the squibs, if they exist and if what they appear to be doing matters at all, may look like they're racing DOWN in the top-to-bottom collapse and UP in the bottom-to-top collapse. Doesn't it to you?

Anyway, I don't know what pictures you've seen of #7, but I don't know how you could look at any pictures of #7's southern face (short side of the trapezoid, remember) from the afternoon of 9/11 and not conclude that it was burning like a mofo.

If you are serious, I will find and post what few photos I have.

If you're not serious, and instead are the typical 9/11 doubter that gets sexually aroused by obsessively asking the same questions over and over on different forums, please don't waste my time. I am a married woman now and I don't want to play that.

185 posted on 08/30/2006 5:26:05 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: Stultis

LOL.

It's kind of like making a grand dramatic exit and getting your purse caught on the doorknob on the way out.


186 posted on 08/30/2006 5:29:26 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: Rocko; streetpreacher; hellinahandcart; VegasCowboy
O.K.

The photo page (apparently, if it's not some particularity of the Internet Archive) scrolled of the servers a bit before the story itself. Last "Way Back" capture 12 October 2004, versus 11 March 2005 for the story page.

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://mdw.army.mil/news/news_photos/Contingency_Planning_Photos.html

Now, lessee, the pictures themselves... I'll just try the first image...

O.K. I get the following message.

Path Index Error.

Sorry, we can't find the archived version of this page. The URL has been archived but not indexed. Try another request or click here to search for all pages on mdw.army.mil/news/news_photos/Ex_sim1.jpg
See the FAQs for more info and help, or contact us.

Is this normal? Maybe the Way Back Machine doesn't index pages (like a photo) with no text? Anyway, as noted, the montage of ALL the images remained with the article through the last Way Back snapshot.

187 posted on 08/30/2006 5:33:33 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: american spirit
The only way I've ever seen a building fall that fast is by controlled demolition.......have you ever seen a building that was on fire, even for hours, fall so quickly?

There is a reason why you have never seen buildings collapse after being hit by jetliners, and that is because it is something that has never ever happened before.

188 posted on 08/30/2006 5:34:53 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.All generalizations are false, including this one.)
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To: ClaireSolt
I always want to ask "Well dang, how many buildings have you seen fall down, with or without controlled demolition?" but these yahoos would probably just make up some astronomical number.

Or not answer.

189 posted on 08/30/2006 5:41:24 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: american spirit
OK, it's been reported in many circles. But there should be no speculation or rumor needed- it's a matter of record.

If this happened, nobody needs to say "I read it somewhere on the Web" or My Brother-in-law has a friend who said he heard...

It would be easy to prove beyond the whispers of rumor, and would be quite an interesting story that many newspapers and several mags would pay money to publish, if it's well documented and backed up with actual fact.

As long as it stays rumor, I'll remain skeptical.
190 posted on 08/30/2006 5:42:06 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: ClaireSolt
I always want to ask "Well dang, how many buildings have you seen fall down, with or without controlled demolition?" but these yahoos would probably just make up some astronomical number.

Or not answer.

191 posted on 08/30/2006 5:43:20 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: american spirit

Why are you asking questions five years later? Why is it that you haven't found the answers to your questions in all this time? The purpose of questions is to guide inquiry, not annoy others. Your questions only seem to indicate that you are ignorant. If you want to prove anything you will need a lot more than just questions.


192 posted on 08/30/2006 5:50:14 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.All generalizations are false, including this one.)
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To: american spirit

"gimme a break!" No. Cynicism is not the American spirit.


193 posted on 08/30/2006 5:55:32 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.All generalizations are false, including this one.)
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To: hellinahandcart
getting your purse caught on the doorknob

Kinda. Except of course agents of N.O.G. (the Neocon Occupational Government) carry hand-tooled black leather attaches to match their Armani suits and dark sunglasses.

194 posted on 08/30/2006 6:06:21 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: ClaireSolt
See the last paragraph of #185 and then try not to think about it. :D

He also keeps referring people to some Justin Raimondo article that was posted here after 9/11. For some reason (cough!) he won't link it.

195 posted on 08/30/2006 6:20:01 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: streetpreacher

Do you at least admit that #5 and #6 were not "shielding" #7, and that there's really no mystery as to why a tall thin building might sustain different and more fatal damage than a short, wide, and long building right in front of it?

Your answer will tell me a lot.


196 posted on 08/30/2006 6:28:16 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart

LOL! You're part of the conspiracy hellinahandcart!

Here's a good debunking link to save you some time:

http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/06/wtc-7.html


197 posted on 08/30/2006 6:51:54 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Incorrigible

Great link. The discussion at the bottom is the archetype (and loooooong, LOL).

I bookmarked it, because it had some pix I didn't have.


198 posted on 08/30/2006 7:09:15 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: Incorrigible; Stultis
From the link:

insidejob, you moron! FASTER that freefall speed??? Do you just make this stuff up on the spot? NO STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS AGREE WITH YOU! NONE! THINK about that for a second. Let it sink in.

"(1) Bush Admin. had been warned, and had supressed FBI investigations" They were warned of their OWN plot?

As for Bush's reaction at the school, if he carried out 9/11 don't you think he would have jumped up and taken charge of the situation? Instead he sat there - like many people that day - in shock. Seriously, dude, do you think ANY of your bullshit would stand up in a court of law?

At 10:10 AM, telescopemerc said... LOL. How was this accomplished? Did the the BushCo. Cabal, Inc. use their supa-dupa, uber-sekrit gravity enhancement generators underneath the buildings?

Haven't you figured it out? Gravity is a conspiracy to keep us down.

199 posted on 08/30/2006 7:25:33 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: Rocko

Okay.


200 posted on 08/30/2006 7:25:40 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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