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Drop in SAT scores biggest in 31 years
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| 8/29/06
| Justin Pope
Posted on 08/29/2006 8:32:31 AM PDT by RushCrush
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posted on
08/29/2006 8:32:32 AM PDT
by
RushCrush
To: RushCrush
I bet if we outsource the SAT to students in India we could get higher scores...:)
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posted on
08/29/2006 8:33:51 AM PDT
by
Marius3188
( I have not told half of what I saw- Marco Polo)
To: RushCrush
What a crock. I wish I could have taken a few of my college tests twice and then counted the higher scores. Mush headed, liberal academia...all show and no substance.
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posted on
08/29/2006 8:34:24 AM PDT
by
Jeff Head
(www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
To: RushCrush
In other news, spending per student has hit 31 year highs.
Therefore spending is invversely related to test scores so enough of the we need more money for the "kids" cries from the unions.
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posted on
08/29/2006 8:35:03 AM PDT
by
1Old Pro
To: RushCrush
When I took the SAT we had to write essays. Oh, and we weren't allowed to use calculators either.
Looks like they may need to another dumbdown adjustment again pretty soon.
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posted on
08/29/2006 8:35:26 AM PDT
by
jpl
(Victorious warriors win first, then go to war; defeated warriors go to war first, then seek to win.)
To: RushCrush
We've been here before, and we know how to fix this problem:
Add 50 points to everyone's score and then pat ourselves on the back for our outstanding educational system.
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posted on
08/29/2006 8:35:44 AM PDT
by
ClearCase_guy
( “I'm the Emperor, and I want dumplings!” (German: Ich bin der Kaiser und will Knödel.))
To: RushCrush
Is this the result of the "No Child Left Behind" policy?
To: Marius3188
Even better: China. Lower labor costs, higher scores. See your tagline.
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posted on
08/29/2006 8:36:07 AM PDT
by
shezza
(God bless our military heroes)
To: Marius3188
I bet if we outsource the SAT to students in India we could get higher scores...:) Of course we would... considering how Indian's behave with interview questions
(if you don't know, it is common for Indian's to pass interview questions to headhunters after they take an interview. The headhunter's will then 'prep' the next candidate with the 'study materials.')
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posted on
08/29/2006 8:38:05 AM PDT
by
sten
To: RushCrush
Looks like a race to the bottom, what with so many kids trying to act ghetto-maxed. One way to prove your street cred is to be dumb on tests. That'll show the Man.
/sarc
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posted on
08/29/2006 8:38:18 AM PDT
by
BelegStrongbow
(www.stjosephssanford.org)
To: RushCrush
Well, it certainly sounds like it is time to boost the baseline another 100 points so today's children do not lose their self-esteem. Certainly, its not time to actually improve schools through vouchers, etc.
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posted on
08/29/2006 8:39:09 AM PDT
by
MarkT
To: RushCrush; PatrickHenry; Doctor Stochastic; Physicist
Education ping (if you know someone who can determine the drop in SAT scores)
IIRC, most savvy students prefer ACT tests and ignore SAT tests altogether.
I wonder if the drop is due, in large measure, to the pool of quality students tested rather than the overall pool of US students.
Maybe we could find an educator to comment?
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posted on
08/29/2006 8:41:11 AM PDT
by
sully777
(You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
To: RushCrush
We are now reaping the seeds we have sown by letting liberals dictate education in this country. This is evidence of the "dumbing down" of our children thanks to liberal policies. We shouldn't put so much stress on our children as to force them to do homework, take tests and act responsibly and respectfully towards teachers and fellow classmates.
I was not permitted to use a calculator either, and was required to turn in my math worksheet with the test. I didn't do that great, around 1100, but it was good enough to get me into my first choice of school (UNC-CH)
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posted on
08/29/2006 8:42:54 AM PDT
by
stm
(Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence)
To: jpl
When I took the SAT we had to write essays. Oh, and we weren't allowed to use calculators either.When I took the SAT back in the mid-70's, I had to walk to the test site, uphill, in both directions, during a blizzard the third week of May.
To: RushCrush
Look guys and gals I hate to punch a hole in your knee jerk reaction but did you read the article? There's a new version of the test. It's significantly longer than the old test and the scores have dropped.
I doubt kids suddenly got stupider. The testing service messed up. The test is too long.
For the record, I too believe that schools have gotten worse not better. But big changes in scores don't happen overnight, unless the test is different.
The testing service is in denial.
To: Jeff Head
As long as I can remember, you have always been able to retake the SAT.
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posted on
08/29/2006 8:43:36 AM PDT
by
Lunatic Fringe
(Man Law: You Poke It, You Own It)
To: RushCrush
More focus on academics is needed bottom line.
To: RushCrush
This is a silly story.
Of course the scores are lower. They've changed the test dramatically, made it much longer and more difficult. It is totally unfair to compare it with scores from prior years.
A few years ago -- late 90's -- SAT "re-centered" the scoring scale. No difference in test content, just a different way of reporting scores. An old 1100 became a 1200, etc. It was a statistical correction, but people tried to compare old scores with new ones then, too.
Hogwash. It's a whole new test this year, completely incomparable with years past.
As for taking the test more than once, that, too, has been common practice for years. Generally, kids take it first as high school juniors to acquaint themselves with the structure, content, and length of the exam, then "for real" as high school seniors. Difference in scores is usually minimal. All of my sons did that, and we're talking maybe 20 points difference between the tests, which could be attributed to a couple of good guesses or maybe just another year of maturity.
This doesn't reflect badly on anybody. Quit the mullygrumping and move on.
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posted on
08/29/2006 8:44:10 AM PDT
by
Jedidah
To: jpl
To: Jeff Head
LOL, my son's HS teachers spent the MAJORITY of 2006 ranting and raving about the "evil Bush" and the "evil war".
Seriously it got so bad that the students started to chuckle whenever another rant started.
It seems all of his assignments in every subject managed to include a political statement.
The Dems, especially the teachers who are mentally weak anyway, have completely gone over the edge of sanity.
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