[TWohlford]

And in a previous thread, Freepers are wanting to protect children from swearing uttered during the 9-11 rescue efforts....

[dc27]

I like how our state can pass more nanny-state laws. Glad to see they have their priorities straight.

[dayglored]

> "Children are effectively smoking a pack and a half a day for every hour they are exposed to smoke in a car."

How's that work? Years ago when I smoked, I was up to a pack and a half a day, and could never pull that rate off. Doing a pack and a half in an hour would have required chain-smoking.

Not just chain-smoking -- more like running two cigarettes at a time. 30 cigarettes in an hour is a whole cigarette every two minutes, continuously.

WTF??!?!?

[donmeaker]

Of course if second hand smoke is harmful, there is no evidence of it.

[cabojoe]

Just another reason for the CHP to pull over whoever they want to. Pathetic.

[facedown]

"Children are effectively smoking a pack and a half a day for every hour they are exposed to smoke in a car."

And space aliens have taken over the Girl Scouts.

[RockinRight]

Under current law, that would be children who were younger than 6 or who weighed less than 60 pounds. But a bill on the governor's desk would require children younger than 8 years to ride in child seats unless they were at least 4-foot-9.

Show me one child that size in a car seat and I'll show you a kid that gets beat up at recess.

[goldstategop]

I find insulting parents need to be fined for smoking among their kids and its damning our legislators want to require Wal-mart to submit triplicate forms to set up new shopping centers in California. Your Nanny State at work.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

[upchuck]

Kalifornika, the uber nanny state.

[kabar]

The logical follow-on is to ban smoking in homes with small children. This is what happens when you put the inmates in charge of the institution.

[FlingWingFlyer]

The clowns here in Arizona have put a "reasonable" proposition on the ballot making it illegal to smoke in public places statewide. The law also makes it a crime for parents to take their kids into bars where smoking is going on. Cue the Twilight Zone theme. Next year the "reasonable" proposition will be about smoking in your home if you have children.

"New laws always sound like a good idea until the first time you have to enforce them." --- Unknown

[Mark-in-Kentucky]

I think it's getting to the point where it is almost impossible to be a law-abiding citizen with the minutiae of our everyday lives is being legislated. No matter what you do, you're bound to run afoul of one law or another.

In the grand scheme of things, I believe the It's for the children! type legislation is a bigger threat to our freedom than islamofascism. I'm not given to hyperbole, but I believe it to be so; this seemingly innocuous type of nanny-statism just isn't as dramatic as terrorism.

[mojo114]

The goal is to stop all smoking everywhere. People in this country do not understand the freedoms they have lost.

[ThomasThomas]

The gubernatorial race here in.. (I just like the word)

Arnold our Gubernor will not sign at least some of these proposed laws. He is a real goober, But the other guy the democrate what his name would sign them all if elected with fan fare. This is the first time I need to vote for a know idiot.

[Gabz]

Nanny State PING.........

Californians who smoke in motor vehicles carrying young children could be slapped with $100 fines under a bill approved Monday by the state Senate.

But a measure to force automakers to produce more lower-polluting, alternative-fuel vehicles fell four votes short of passing.

The smoking ban, in a bill by Assemblyman Paul Koretz, D-West Hollywood, would cover vehicles carrying children who were required to ride in a child safety seat.

Let me make sure I have this straight.............High pollution vehicles are ok - but the non-issue tobacco smoke in a vehicle is now illegal????? Where do these people get their brains from? There is obviously something in the air in California, and it sure as chit ain't tobacco smoke.

[Gabz]

Sen. Deborah Ortiz, D-Sacramento, said the Koretz bill was an attempt to "protect the health of children who cannot protect themselves."

"We all know that secondhand smoke is hazardous," she said, particularly for young children whose lungs are still developing. "Children are effectively smoking a pack and a half a day for every hour they are exposed to smoke in a car."

How can this cretin sleep at night knowing she is allowing these kinds of lies to be published?

[Zon]

"Children are effectively smoking a pack and a half a day for every hour they are exposed to smoke in a car." -- Sen. Deborah Ortiz

 That'll be true when monkeys fly out of her butt.

[annelizly]

"We all know that secondhand smoke is hazardous," she said, particularly for young children whose lungs are still developing. "Children are effectively smoking a pack and a half a day for every hour they are exposed to smoke in a car."

Now, why aren't we suing her for fraud?

How is it that people can stand up and LIE LIE LIE and get away with it? where is the accountability? Not to mention the study that supports her theory?

[ladyinred]

These leftist commies in California need to mind their own freaking business for once. The nanny state is so getting out of hand in this nation.

[RouxStir]

Rather interesting article located here:

European Journal of Endocrinology (2005) 152 491–499

The article is long (smoked an entire Diamond Crown Maximus Double Corona while reading it) and rather boring, but essentially seems vague and inconclusive in many areas of the health-smoking relationship.

I can't link to the article but I will put it in a separate post for those interested.