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What to do about Tel Aviv
Jerusalem Post ^ | Aug. 28, 2006 | Isi Leibler

Posted on 08/28/2006 5:49:37 PM PDT by Alouette

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1 posted on 08/28/2006 5:49:37 PM PDT by Alouette
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2 posted on 08/28/2006 5:50:12 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 23-28)
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To: Alouette
Isn't this a no-brainer?

Isreal could not stomach the massive amount of civilian casualities that would have been required to effectively prosecute the war. Isreal first lost the PR war then the ground war.

3 posted on 08/28/2006 5:53:36 PM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (Just another evil conservative)
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To: Alouette

"The unending attacks, both direct and indirect, on nationalism, on militarism and on the American narrative have eaten away, from the inside, at the tree trunk of America's existence and sucked away its life force."

We are NO different, look at what our schools teach, look
at how our children are raised by the state. It's a wonder
we can even fight at all.


4 posted on 08/28/2006 5:53:58 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Alouette

Liberals could wreck a wet dream.


5 posted on 08/28/2006 5:57:14 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
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To: Alouette

Shulamit Aloni was the Education Minister who despised religious and Zionist education and purged it.


6 posted on 08/28/2006 6:00:54 PM PDT by dervish
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To: Alouette
We suffer the exact same here. When you tell a soldier that he can only go so far in a battle is to erode his drive to win. For a nation to tie one of it's own hands behind it's own back as a way of apology for being stronger and better equipped, to not to use all of it's power to defeat the enemy is a self inflicted insanity demanded by an international community with it's own economic agenda.

The inability of the international community to make moral judgments, only economic judgments, leaves the entire West vulnerable. Diplomacy is the arsenic in the cup.
7 posted on 08/28/2006 6:13:30 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Alouette
Let us return to the Book of Samuel for a glimpse of the past travails. Saul has slain his thousands, David has slain his ten thousand.
8 posted on 08/28/2006 6:15:54 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: Alouette
When the muzzies finally nuke Tel Aviv the Jews will not be "happy"...
They will not be happy at all..

Did'nt the IDF just buy three more submarines from the Germans?...
They will not be happy, I'm tellin ya..

9 posted on 08/28/2006 6:18:45 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole.)
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To: Alouette
Israel fought this war in arena of PC'ism if there is such a word. Israel needs to fight as they had previously under the old guard of those who lead the 6 day war. There is no such thing as a kinder gentler way of warfare.
I am afraid if the US is ever struck directly we would respond with the restraint of PC'ism too.
These fascist do not recognize any response that is less than total commitment as being a response in dishonor and weakness
10 posted on 08/28/2006 6:22:36 PM PDT by John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?
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To: Alouette

"We have become tired of fighting; tired of being arrogant; tired of winning; tired of defeating our enemies."

Let's all welcome the Jewish Jimmy Carter


11 posted on 08/28/2006 6:26:01 PM PDT by bluejay
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To: dervish

And perhaps he heard a song in his deeper soul which lamented that Zion brooks no pretenders at education.


12 posted on 08/28/2006 6:30:24 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bluejay
Nay, no, never. Not so. The author expresses only the kind of exhaustion that marks the end of a sickness, and the beginning of a recovery -- like when a flu's fever peaks, the invalid is totallty exhausted, for at the very same moment the body is most rejecting the infection; the exhaustion marks the point that the body will survive and the flu will not.

And that is NOT a concept a petti-man like Jimmy Carter could ever comprehend.

13 posted on 08/28/2006 6:37:37 PM PDT by bvw
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I don't understand Israel relying on secular Judaism for their salvation. The G-d* of Israel is their only salvation. Remembering G-d is with them and they are His people will save them regardless of the power and strength of the Muslims or any other peoples, united or singularly, arrayed against them.

If you study the Jews, there can be no good reason for them to survive as a people for thousands of years, under the most horrible conditions and odds, without some Divine hand preserving them. This is what the Jews of Israel should think about. G-d is with them!







*Religious Jews do not believe in writing the word "G-o-d"; they consider writing His name down, when it can then be destroyed in some manner, blasphemous. I use the spelling, G-d, to show my respect to them.

14 posted on 08/28/2006 6:40:59 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: bvw

In that case we better hope that he is like Jimmy Carter, whose depressing statements helped lead the way to Ronald Regan.


15 posted on 08/28/2006 6:43:08 PM PDT by bluejay
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To: MissAmericanPie
The inability of the international community to make moral judgments, only economic judgments, leaves the entire West vulnerable. Diplomacy is the arsenic in the cup.

It is a crisis of leadership here in the USA

We need a strong leader to use blunt language and the MSM be damned

We don't have that

We have Compassionate Conservatism
16 posted on 08/28/2006 6:46:35 PM PDT by uncbob
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"We have become tired of fighting; tired of being arrogant; tired of winning; tired of defeating our enemies."

So he loses one, because, you know, winning is so boring...

17 posted on 08/28/2006 6:48:14 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 23-28)
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To: Alas Babylon!
"*Religious Jews do not believe in writing the word "G-o-d"; they consider writing His name down, when it can then be destroyed in some manner, blasphemous."

Odd practice considering how many times God according to the Bible announced that his name should be praised, etc.

Can you imagine the Psalms, and the Bible w/out the name of God?

Whatever term, Elohim, Yahweh, sticking a hyphen in the middle of a name or title is a contrived PC sort of nonsense.

What sort of God can be blasphemed so easily?

It is absurd.

18 posted on 08/28/2006 6:49:43 PM PDT by Radix (Law was made for Man, and Man was not made for the Law.)
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To: Radix

Writing the Name of God
Jews do not casually write any Name of God. This practice does not come from the commandment not to take the Lord's Name in vain, as many suppose. In Jewish thought, that commandment refers solely to oath-taking, and is a prohibition against swearing by God's Name falsely or frivolously (the word normally translated as "in vain" literally means "for falsehood").

Judaism does not prohibit writing the Name of God per se; it prohibits only erasing or defacing a Name of God. However, observant Jews avoid writing any Name of God casually because of the risk that the written Name might later be defaced, obliterated or destroyed accidentally or by one who does not know better.

The commandment not to erase or deface the name of God comes from Deut. 12:3. In that passage, the people are commanded that when they take over the promised land, they should destroy all things related to the idolatrous religions of that region, and should utterly destroy the names of the local deities. Immediately afterwards, we are commanded not to do the same to our God. From this, the rabbis inferred that we are commanded not to destroy any holy thing, and not to erase or deface a Name of God.

It is worth noting that this prohibition against erasing or defacing Names of God applies only to Names that are written in some kind of permanent form, and recent rabbinical decisions have held that writing on a computer is not a permanent form, thus it is not a violation to type God's Name into a computer and then backspace over it or cut and paste it, or copy and delete files with God's Name in them. However, once you print the document out, it becomes a permanent form. That is why observant Jews avoid writing a Name of God on web sites like this one or in newsgroup messages: because there is a risk that someone else will print it out and deface it.

Normally, we avoid writing the Name by substituting letters or syllables, for example, writing "G-d" instead of "God." In addition, the number 15, which would ordinarily be written in Hebrew as Yod-Heh (10-5), is normally written as Tet-Vav (9-6), because Yod-Heh is a Name. See Hebrew Alphabet for more information about using letters as numerals.


19 posted on 08/28/2006 6:52:30 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 23-28)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Oh my... boy the LEFT really has a STINKY SMELL doesn' it. The Left and its values, like a cancer growth, zaps the life of anything it puts its tentacles on. I am sorry for Israel... they are way more f*** up than I thought. I heard the IDF has homosexuals openly servicing in it... No a good sign either. Who can blame the arabas for being so bold and aggressive... they also dectect the same stinking smell of weackness, of nothing of value.


20 posted on 08/28/2006 7:05:31 PM PDT by ElPatriota (Let's not forget, we are all still friends despite our differences)
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