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So when are Centani and Wiig going to be freed?
Posted on 08/27/2006 5:28:32 AM PDT by 13Sisters76
Perhaps I am misreading what I have seen on Fox News, or perhaps I am getting too cynical in my old age. Perhaps not.
Is anyone else being struck by the "oddness" of this whole scenario? As I watched the men being rushed into the building and as they met with the head of the Palestinian Authority and as they were dragged out for their "press conference" (Mrs. BBC Wiig's big moment) I couldn't help noticing the dearth of western faces. I also noticed Wiig's reaction to being grabbed by several Palestinian "officials" and his yelling "Get off!".
My immediate reaction is that they are STILL being held by the terrorists and they are ANOTHER terrorist incident of manipulating the western media. At what point, I wonder, will they ACTUALLY be released?
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To: rbg81
I certainly hope so. Don't expect anything from Wiig's wife, though, except for more America-bashing. She is BBC and they have gone after Fox News many times. It seems odd how her husband was one taken- he is described as a "free lance" cameraman. This whole thing smells a bit. Maybe I am just over-thinking it. I have come to distrust them ALL over there.
I AM glad they didn't have their heads sawn off or that they were cannibalized for the enjoyment of the arab audience.
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posted on
08/27/2006 6:01:47 AM PDT
by
13Sisters76
("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
To: brytlea
They're reporters and they want to continue to report. Antagonizing the palis isn't the best way to get back in to report.
I'm sure the keyboard heroes will have all kinds of solutions to what they would do if only they had been so lucky as to be held hostage.
From what I've read, islamic hostage takers use some particularly nasty psychological torture methods. One second they'll treat you like a best friend only to hold a knife to your throat in the next second, then gently hand feed you a second after that.
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posted on
08/27/2006 6:09:17 AM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
To: 13Sisters76
"I want to thank everybody. I am happy to be here. I hope that this never scares a single journalist away from coming to Gaza to cover the story because the Palestinian people are very beautiful and kind hearted," Centanni told reporters.Stockholm Syndrome notwithstanding, this "reporter" has forfeited all future credibility for me.
It would be well for him to move to Reuters, because any time he appears on the Fox News Channel, I am switching Fox off.
Even reporters, actually, specially reporters, are not immune to the wise counsel of sometimes embracing silence as the best course of action until reason returns after a traumatic experience.
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posted on
08/27/2006 6:11:07 AM PDT
by
Publius6961
(MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
To: Publius6961
I know...that statement was greeted with a lot of hoots and catcalls at THIS house too. But I am willing to cut him a bit of slack. He STILL wasn't in friendly hands when he made those remarks. Perhaps he will have more to say now that he actually IS free.
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posted on
08/27/2006 6:15:01 AM PDT
by
13Sisters76
("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
To: mkjessup
That was forced (guns to their heads) and while I hope I would not do that, I cannot say what I would do with a gun to my head. Having said that, once I was freed I don't think I would find that sort of people to be hospitable or in any way admirable....
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posted on
08/27/2006 6:15:11 AM PDT
by
brytlea
(amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
To: rbg81
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posted on
08/27/2006 6:15:53 AM PDT
by
brytlea
(amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
To: cripplecreek
I'm sure you're correct. I think I'm more bothered by the Foxnews folks this morning. I understand they're glad their friends are freed, but these are JOURNALISTS, and they should be doing a better job of reporting the story.
I don't expect anyone to say anything other than what their captors want when they have a gun to their head (and if they do I don't expect to see it broadcast). We'll see how this plays out. I have almost no respect for journalists as they virtually all seem to have strong biases that they don't bother to hide. More and more I don't understand why they are given any more priviledge than anyone else since they don't seem any more responsible. But that's just me.
susie
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posted on
08/27/2006 6:20:35 AM PDT
by
brytlea
(amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
To: 13Sisters76
You might try reading what's on the board before starting a new thread just to show your ignorance.
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posted on
08/27/2006 6:28:36 AM PDT
by
libbylu
To: cripplecreek
They're reporters and they want to continue to report. Antagonizing the palis isn't the best way to get back in to report.
I'm sure the keyboard heroes will have all kinds of solutions to what they would do if only they had been so lucky as to be held hostage.I have no solutions, but I do know this. I would never, under any circumstances imagine myself returning from such an ordeal and saying,
"I want to thank everybody. I am happy to be here. I hope that this never scares a single journalist away from coming to Gaza to cover the story because the Palestinian people are very beautiful and kind hearted," Centanni told reporters.
"I am happy to be alive" might have been a more appropriate terse statement; I am not suggesting he was obligated to shout "Muck Fohammed!".
As for "wanting to continue to report", no, thank you. We don't need another CNN feeding us selective official terrorist propaganda for years under the guise of news.
I am capable of knowing perfectly what "palestinians" are like from their actions, thankyouverymuch!
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posted on
08/27/2006 6:31:56 AM PDT
by
Publius6961
(MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
To: libbylu
Ignorance is remediable.
Personality disorders are not.
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posted on
08/27/2006 6:40:13 AM PDT
by
Publius6961
(MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
To: brytlea
That was forced (guns to their heads) and while I hope I would not do that, I cannot say what I would do with a gun to my head. Having said that, once I was freed I don't think I would find that sort of people to be hospitable or in any way admirable...
I understand and agree, none of us can be sure how we will react at any given moment and under the stress that Centani and Wiig were experiencing.
Having said that, I would very much LIKE to think that if I were told to read a statement announcing my conversion to Islam, that I would first demand that a LIVE audience of media be provided, with lots of witnesses, and if I could convince them that I was about to utter a scathing denunciation of all things Western and infidel (and get that live audience), I would wait until the cameras were rolling, and then say in a clear loud voice:
"I do not know what everyone believes, nor do I know what god everyone chooses to place their faith in. I DO know that Jesus Christ is the King of kings, and Lord of lords, He IS Almighty God manifested in human form, He sits at the right hand side of God the Father, and He will soon return to judge the quick and the dead, and I will not renounce or deny His Name."
Of course I might fail in summoning up the courage to do that (and they might start sawing my head off before I could finish), even the disciple Peter denied Christ three times and I doubt that I have a fraction of his faith, and He knew Jesus personally.
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posted on
08/27/2006 6:45:37 AM PDT
by
mkjessup
(The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
To: mkjessup
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posted on
08/27/2006 6:46:55 AM PDT
by
brytlea
(amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
To: mkjessup
I am
certain I would not have the strength to do all that, nor do I believe that my God demands that of me. That's just me.
Under those circumstances, I would say whatever I am ordered to say. In my universe, there is no disgrace in that; it was quite common, in a slightly different context, with captured pilots in Korea and Viet Nam.
The mindless commitment you describe is more befitting the world's current serious affliction, the Religion of Death...
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posted on
08/27/2006 6:57:07 AM PDT
by
Publius6961
(MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
To: Publius6961
It far from mindless my FRiend. And unlike the Religion of Death you invoke, my faith does not require me to kill all those who refuse to convert to my beliefs.
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posted on
08/27/2006 7:02:57 AM PDT
by
mkjessup
(The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
To: 13Sisters76
To add on to his victimization by the Palestinians, Centanni is now compromised with respect to any reporting on the Middle East. This would be a great opportunity, however, for him to cross over into the editorial world, writing a column -- from an undisclosed location -- on what he really thinks about the ongoing Jihad.
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posted on
08/27/2006 7:27:33 AM PDT
by
AZLiberty
(Creating the <a href="http://clinton.senate.gov">straddle</a> Google bomb one post at a time.)
To: rbg81
You're right, the whole dog and pony show is nauseating. I really feel sorry for those two guys. BTW, I think "Palestinian leadership" is an oxymoron.
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posted on
08/27/2006 8:14:20 AM PDT
by
khnyny
(Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.- Winston Churchill)
To: Publius6961
They weren't quite safe yet, IMO, but that was over the top. The Palestinians and beautiful are not words I would use. He could have been more vague. I hope the best for these men, as it was a horrifying situation I'm sure, but I am disappointed the same.
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posted on
08/27/2006 8:16:30 AM PDT
by
PghBaldy
(CNN on Castro - Intestinal Crisis 2006: A People Mourn.)
To: libbylu
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posted on
08/27/2006 9:24:24 AM PDT
by
13Sisters76
("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
To: AZLiberty
As I said, I am willing to wait and see what he says from this point. I'm sure he must have felt as careful with his words while in the PA's hands as he must have in the "care" of the OTHER terrorist group.
Bet there's a book coming...
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posted on
08/27/2006 9:28:12 AM PDT
by
13Sisters76
("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
To: mkjessup
And unlike the Religion of Death you invoke, my faith does not require me to kill all those who refuse to convert to my beliefs. First of all, I did not invoke anything, simply made a reference to it.
"Invoke" is a carelessly used and emotionally charged word.
Is English your first language?
Further, I never suggested that our common faith requires you or anyone else to to kill others.
Are straw men an essential part of your thought process?
Have a nice day.
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posted on
08/27/2006 10:18:48 AM PDT
by
Publius6961
(MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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