Breaking Fox - Kidnapped Fox journalists released

I share your take regarding Amy. Shep tried to sound hopeful.

Very sad, indeed. It appears either Amy had been holding back tears, or had already been crying. I don't know how she got through that segment.

Thanks for telling me that Shep was on, too. I went back in and turned the TV on after you mentioned that.

121 posted on 08/27/2006 1:40:02 AM PDT by jdm (I gotta give the Helen Thomas obsession a rest.)

Yes, (smiling) IMO, far fetched.
Run where? He likely has no damn idea where he's being held.

122 posted on 08/27/2006 1:40:07 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" 10% are fundamentalists, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)

FNC is back to replaying regular programming, but Shep is in the studio. I'll wait through one more news cycle.

123 posted on 08/27/2006 1:42:32 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" 10% are fundamentalists, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)

You're welcome!

You're so right about no more journalists inside the territory, American or otherwise, if these two are harmed. A propoganda drought would be the death of Hamas.

124 posted on 08/27/2006 1:42:54 AM PDT by windchime (One war~many fronts.)

Holy CHIT! This CAN'T be true!!!!!!!!!!!!

125 posted on 08/27/2006 1:45:23 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)

She says that Centanni and Wiig were kidnapped by PA security forces associated with Fatah.

Did she have the first report, or did the Jerusalem Post?

126 posted on 08/27/2006 1:45:39 AM PDT by HAL9000 (Happy 10th Anniversary FreeRepublic.com - Est. Sept. 23, 1996 - Thanks Jim!)

They need Western voices to present their pitiful side, not to mention the foreign aid.

127 posted on 08/27/2006 1:46:42 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" 10% are fundamentalists, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)

Holy chit, is right. Hang on....more to come...

128 posted on 08/27/2006 1:46:48 AM PDT by Chena ("I'm not young enough to know everything." (Oscar Wilde))

129 posted on 08/27/2006 1:47:13 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" 10% are fundamentalists, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)

Yep. They have "chosen the path of peace" and "converted to Islam".

Oh dear Lord. Please don't let this be true!!!

130 posted on 08/27/2006 1:48:30 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)

Yep. Self-reliance isn't one of their attributes.

131 posted on 08/27/2006 1:48:47 AM PDT by windchime (One war~many fronts.)

I don't think the muzzies will kill two AMERICAN hostages. When these two get home they will be stifled from saying anything by FOX.

132 posted on 08/27/2006 1:49:55 AM PDT by Dallas59 (ISLAMOFASCISM!!!!)

When these two get home they will be stifled from saying anything by FOX.

I agree. Some time will have to pass first.

133 posted on 08/27/2006 1:51:22 AM PDT by jdm (I gotta give the Helen Thomas obsession a rest.)

Dunno how many will get this.

134 posted on 08/27/2006 1:52:08 AM PDT by manapua

A "confession" under duress -- even one that insists that it's "given freely" -- is null. To my knowlege no military POW will be condemned, let alone prosecuted, for "denouncing" the USA under duress.

That said, I do not see this as a good sign. I see it as a very ominous indicator.

I fear that what comes next -- or, if not next, "soon", is an announcement that as freely chosen "slaves of allah", they have "chosen" the "martyrdom path." The conclusion of the nightmare would be their deaths, either as "suicide" variety "martyrs" (i.e., loaded with explosives, parked somewhere, and then detonated), or, a "sacrificial offering" of some sort, i.e., their cold-blooded murder, with the cameras running (with previously recorded "oaths to allah", in their own voices, playing over the sound track, with some cock and bull narration explaining how they chose this method to atone for the sins of The Great Satan, and receive their reward in "Motel 72.")

The moment the kidnappers issued a demand that would obvously NOT be met (i.e., the release of "every muslim prisoner in America"), it seemed pretty clear to me that the outcome was the game, and the "demands" a mere pretext to "justify" it. A classic kangaroo court scenario. Issue a demand that you KNOW will NOT be met, so that you can claim "fairness" and "opportunity" for "the infidels", and then, assert that your hands are tied, justice demands no less than the death of the captives, since the "reasonable demands" were rebuffed with the insulting refusal to even consider meeting them.

Hell is not nearly hot enough for the brutal animals committing this atrocity.

Meanwhile, were the hell is the USA of the past? The one that in addition to "not negotiating with terrorists", made damn sure that there was an immediate and COSTLY penalty for kidnapping Americans?

Where are the leaders capable of saying, "Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!" -- and MEANING it?

Our countrymen are kidnapped and abused, and our response is a spineless, clinical statement that, well, we don't negotiate, sorry 'bout that.

This, against a foe that respects only ONE thing -- force. Overwhelmeing force. It respects only what it fears.

This mentality is alien to our "hothouse civilization", which, via projection, insists on the mistaken belief that "we're all the same inside."

We're not.

SOME people operate under an entirely different set of rules. They, in their own words, "love death."

You do NOT persuade people of that mentality by appearing "reasonable"; in fact, the only thing you WILL accomplish via that tactic is to confirm to them that you are WEAK. It is only STRENGTH that can win this conflict, and so long as we are congenitally incapable of DEMONSTRATING the kind of cold, brutal STRENGH that they will respect, we will instead receive their contempt.

The more we try to convince them that we are "reasonable", the more emboldened, confident, and dedicated they become.

We are throwing gasoline on the fire every time we deliver mealy-mouthed platitudes about our enemies.

The enemy knows that we are a paper tiger.

God have mercy on us...

135 posted on 08/27/2006 1:53:19 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)

Does it matter?

Yes, it's useful to know the origin of information.

136 posted on 08/27/2006 1:55:22 AM PDT by HAL9000 (Happy 10th Anniversary FreeRepublic.com - Est. Sept. 23, 1996 - Thanks Jim!)

Don't be silly. In this situation your God knows what you really believe, right? Not to open a can of worms or anything, but this reminds me of Columbine. Remember the female student... approached by gunman and asked her about being a Christian?

She was unwavering in her response and was killed instantly. Was she brave? Absolutely. If she said otherwise, would she have still been killed? Maybe, probably. We just never know.

I know they are in a tough spot, but I could NEVER denounce my God! NEVER! I am praying for the souls of Steve and Olef! How sad.

137 posted on 08/27/2006 1:55:45 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)

More on the Kidnapped FOX Journalists and ones Conversion to Islam....

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - Two Fox News journalists kidnapped in Gaza two weeks ago are expected to be freed later Sunday, a senior Palestinian official said, as the kidnappers released new footage of the hostages.
The government has received assurances that the hostages, cameraman Olaf Wiig, 36, of New Zealand, and correspondent Steve Centanni, 60, of the U.S., are unharmed, said Interior Ministry spokesman Khaled Abu Hilal. "We hope their release will be within hours," Abu Hilal told The Associated Press. The kidnappers, meanwhile, released new video of Wiig and Centanni.

In a written statement attached to the video, the kidnappers claimed the two men had converted to Islam. In one segment of the footage, Wiig is seen sitting cross-legged on the floor, dressed in a beige robe and reading from crumpled notes. "It is Apache helicopters firing hellfire missiles made in America that kill the residents in Gaza," he said in a halting voice, his face expressionless. In another segment, Centanni said he has converted to Islam and raised his index finger in an oath of allegiance to the religion.
The journalists were seized in Gaza City on Aug. 14. Their captors, a previously unknown group calling itself the Holy Jihad Brigades, demanded the release of all Muslims imprisoned by the U.S. by midnight Saturday in exchange for freeing the journalists. The kidnappers did not say what it would do to the men if the deadline passed with their demands unanswered.
It was not clear whether the kidnappers were local militants, either with ties to the ruling Hamas group or the rival Fatah movement, or sneaked into Gaza from outside. However, some Palestinian security officials said Sunday there were growing suspicions that the kidnappers were locals.
In the past two years, Palestinian militants have seized more than two dozen foreigners, usually to settle personal scores, but released them unharmed within hours. The holding of the Fox journalists was the longest so far. Wiig's wife, Anita McNaught, traveled to Gaza soon after the kidnapping to appeal for the men's safe release.
Centanni's brother, Ken, has made a similar plea. On Friday, civil rights leader the Rev. Jesse Jackson also called for the two men to be freed. "They are in a crisis they did not create.
They should not be kept as trophies and we appeal for their release," Jackson told New Zealand television network TV3. Jackson was to lead an ecumenical delegation to the Middle East this weekend to meet with political and religious leaders about the kidnapping and other developments in the region, including the capture of three Israeli soldiers by Islamic militants. Clicky Here For Story

138 posted on 08/27/2006 1:56:57 AM PDT by Dallas59 (ISLAMOFASCISM!!!!)

As per FNC: they do not have the tape -- it is on a satellite feed.

They have it, but they are refusing to play it. At least that's what they said maybe 15 min. ago.

139 posted on 08/27/2006 1:57:11 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)

It's a different situation now. They believe Hammas has defeated Israel, therefore giving them much more power and influence.

I think you meant to say that they believe Hezzbollah defeated Israel, and they're not alone in that thinking.

140 posted on 08/27/2006 1:57:31 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" 10% are fundamentalists, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)

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