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Breaking Fox - Kidnapped Fox journalists released
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Posted on 08/27/2006 12:41:00 AM PDT by Crazieman
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To: DCPatriot
Joe Biden is on sucking up to Islamic radicals.
To: pillut48
No biggie. My reputation precedes me. Your posts have been excellent, and I have no issue with you personally. I would hope that I have not offended you.
To: Brad C.
"Let's put it the other way round. Say Hitler accepted Christ in his youth, before becoming the monster that he was. Through all the murder, mayhem and commandments that he broke later in his life, would he still be welcomed at the Gates?"
Paul taught that a true conversion experience would result in fruits of the Holy Spirit, enabling the converted person to give up a life of sin. Sure, true Christians still sin. But they are able to become more Christ-like as the Holy Spirit enables them to become free of one sin at a time throughout their lifespans.
So, a truly converted Hitler would find his sins so repugnant that the Holy Spirit would compel him to change his ways. The fact that Hitler committed such atrocities is evidence that he never gave his life to Christ.
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posted on
08/27/2006 3:22:43 PM PDT
by
keats5
(tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
To: beckysueb; Miztiki
I really hate to say this. I've been worried sick about Steve and Olaf, but they just sold their souls to the devil. I was thinking the same thing. The Bible warns us we will be faced with this delimma in the end times and we are to accept death. There is no going back.
Get a freaking grip, will you??
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posted on
08/27/2006 3:25:46 PM PDT
by
DCPatriot
("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
To: ARealMothersSonForever
Bygones! :-)
I'm just proud to live in a country where we can disagree like this and not worry about being dragged out of our beds at night at gunpoint! Freedom rocks!
And I'm just really glad the journalists are free, and we aren't grieving over their untimely murders by terrorists!
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posted on
08/27/2006 3:27:47 PM PDT
by
pillut48
(CJ in TX (Bible Thumper and Proud!))
To: keats5
But if he *had*, yes, he would have been forgiven. Christ died for *all*, even the seemingly unredeemable ones like Hitler and Osama Bin Laden, etc.
1,046
posted on
08/27/2006 3:28:59 PM PDT
by
pillut48
(CJ in TX (Bible Thumper and Proud!))
To: ET(end tyranny)
Now that was a really, really intriguing, well-written and thoughtful response -- thank you.
To: pillut48
I agree, but after turning our back on someone, it's hard to face them again. A hardening, a guilt probably occurs out of embarrassment and insecurity. How would we feel if we betrayed our best friend, our president. We would have our tails between our legs. And our own human feelings alone could alienate us from God. We can cause alot of damage ourselves. We can cause a separation alone that may seem unforgivable. There will come a time when it will be unforgivable. I don't care to challenge when that time is.
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posted on
08/27/2006 3:29:52 PM PDT
by
sasha123
(Pray for the peace of Jerusalem)
To: DCPatriot
To: sasha123
Indeed. That is human nature, and our curse. Thank God we as Christians have Jesus to overcome it! :*)
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posted on
08/27/2006 3:31:52 PM PDT
by
pillut48
(CJ in TX (Bible Thumper and Proud!))
To: DCPatriot; beckysueb; Miztiki
Get a freaking grip, will you?? DCP, that is what it says.
To: MinuteGal
Was up half the night following this and praying for the two of them.
Just had a thought (as irrelevant as it may be). Steve and Olaf pulled the ultimate slap in the face to their captors....(now follow me on this.) The Islamofast believe it is OK if not honorable to lie to the infidels to get their desired results. We'll guess what, the infidels turned it around: lied to them about their conversion and got their freedom. Rather ironic.
To: ET(end tyranny)
It is a bit nauseating to have to wade through tons of replies dealing with one's religious proclamations....
"WHAAA...I am a better christian than you"...
..."OMG, they denied Christ"....
..."I am so angry at them for being weak christians.....blah, blah, blah"!
That said, have at it....I'll find another thread. ;^)
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posted on
08/27/2006 3:36:37 PM PDT
by
DCPatriot
("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
To: ARealMothersSonForever
Then why are we discussing this? Go ahead and convert to Islam. It's not what you say under extreme duress that matters, it's what's in your heart.
Suppose they had knives to your childrens throats, you'd proclaim whatever they wanted, even if in your heart you didn't believe it.
OTOH, proclaiming one is a devout Christian doesn't make him/her one if he/she doesn't really believe.
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posted on
08/27/2006 3:36:54 PM PDT
by
CaptainCanada
(Citizenship which costs nothing is worth nothing..........................................)
To: ez
my God will give forgiveness for lying to murderous zealots.Only if you ask him for it.
And that would entail admitting it was WRONG, which is something I'm not seeing on this thread.
Most of us would take the cowardly way out to save our own lives. That isn't the point. Even if it's the only way out, it's still the cowardly way out, and a majority vote will never turn it into bravery.
What sickens me are the people who post that NONE would do differently in their place, as if there had never been Christian martyrs, as if our American ancestors hadn't been willing to die over matters less important than denying Christ, and as if no one is capable of the same now. Better to mock the ones who pray for courage, rather than look at their own lack of conviction.
To: Don Joe
The Southern Baptists (speaking as a former SBC Sunday School Teacher) have an axiom, "Once saved, always saved."Except for that little issue about blasphemy against the Holy Ghost. Definitely not a good idea.
To: Libertina
This is one of the best posts on this thread. Thank you for writing it.
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posted on
08/27/2006 3:45:22 PM PDT
by
Sue Perkick
(The true gospel is a call to self-denial. It is not a call to self-fulfillment..John MacArthur)
To: DCPatriot
It is a bit nauseating to have to wade through tons of replies dealing with one's religious proclamations.... People are discussing what they think and feel regarding events that resemble Revelation. Scroll on past them if they don't apply to you. I ignore lots of posts all the time.
"WHAAA...I am a better christian than you"......"OMG, they denied Christ".... ..."I am so angry at them for being weak christians.....blah, blah, blah"!
I must have skipped past those, I don't recall anyone saying they were angry. Some have expressed concern, others have said they would probably do the same and lots have said they didn't know how they would behave.
That said, have at it....I'll find another thread. ;^)
Isn't free will great! :)
To: Michael Goldsberry
Use the bible like a fine wine.
Sip from it and savor the fruits.
The bible was written so that you wouldn't eat your neighbor without fearing eternal damnation.
Christians who take the bible so literally are no different than Islamic jihadists who follow the Koran.
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posted on
08/27/2006 3:46:03 PM PDT
by
DCPatriot
("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
To: DCPatriot
Christians who take the bible so literally are no different than Islamic jihadists who follow the Koran. Yes we are, we don't want to kill you.
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