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Man says he might have seen Karr in '96
Rocky Mountain News ^ | 8/26/06 | Todd Hartman

Posted on 08/26/2006 6:53:08 AM PDT by freespirited

Boulder District Attorney investigator Mark Spray has contacted a man who believes he could have encountered the JonBenet Ramsey murder suspect on a bus in the early morning hours of Dec. 26, 1996. Daniel Pride, now of Portsmouth, N.H., said he was at the downtown bus station in Boulder sometime shortly after 12:30 a.m. when a man arrived, behaving strangely and bearing a resemblance to John Mark Karr, arrested last week in the case.

He said the man didn't want to be noticed and pulled away when Pride asked if he had a light for a cigarette. The man boarded the same bus as Pride, and exchanged strange glances with him once aboard, Pride said.

Pride said the individual was wearing a Western fleece vest with a "shiny red spot" that Pride took to be a stain.

Asked how he could remember the event in such detail, Pride said it was because the man acted so strangely, and because he found out about JonBenet's death soon after. At some point after the murder, Pride said he called the tip into Boulder police.

Pride decided to again leave his tip with the DA's office Aug. 18. Spray contacted him five days later, and interviewed him over the phone, Pride said.

Pride provided an e-mail from Spray in which the investigator said he was interested in talking to him. Spray wanted to know what Pride was wearing on the same night, said Pride, who said he thought he could obtain the information from friends who had photos of a gathering that Pride attended on Christmas of 1996.

It's impossible to know the significance of the interview. Those familiar with investigations said Spray could simply be following a lead that could put Karr in Boulder, or might have been trying to corroborate information that he'd already obtained elsewhere.

Pride said the stranger got off the bus on the highway outside of Boulder.

Pride's story seems to have at least one hitch: The Ramsey house is some distance from the downtown Boulder bus station. Even if JonBenet's death occurred prior to midnight - the exact time is unknown - it's a significant walk from that property on 15th Street to the bus depot.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: boulder; colorado; johnkarr; johnmarkcarr; jonbenet; jonbenetramsey; karr; ramsey; ramseymurder
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Can anyone be more specific about the distance between the Ramsey home and the bus station?
1 posted on 08/26/2006 6:53:09 AM PDT by freespirited
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To: freespirited

I want DNA and fingerprints.


2 posted on 08/26/2006 6:57:13 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: freespirited

There is definitely too much useless news on Iran, Lebanon, Terrorism filling the news papers and pushing world critical and overwhelmingly important news of the 10 year old Jon Benet murder off the front page and out of the minds of folks. Please, MSM, give us Jon Benet all the time, 24 hour coverage and let all that other terrorist drival be relagated to being ignored, it doesn't mean anything anyway as far as the state of the world is concerned.


3 posted on 08/26/2006 6:57:32 AM PDT by GreyFriar ( (3rd Armored Division - Spearhead))
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To: freespirited

looks like peolpe trying to get a quick 15 minutes of fame on the drive by obsession of this case...

In fact, I saw ther perp John Karr buying gerbals in the local petshop a few hours before the murder. /s


4 posted on 08/26/2006 6:58:07 AM PDT by dubie
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To: freespirited

I am sure I can also remember everyone I saw the morning of Dec. 26, 1996. I can also remember every phone call, and what I had for breakfast. Sarcasm off. If the DA is counting on this testimony her case is in deep trouble.


5 posted on 08/26/2006 6:58:28 AM PDT by John D
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To: GreyFriar

Also give us more of Gary Condit/Chandra Levy, Scott Peterson/Amber Frey, OJ Simpson and Michael Jackson. After all, Greta needs to make a living, too.


6 posted on 08/26/2006 7:01:19 AM PDT by Salvey (ancest)
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To: GreyFriar

Rove contrived this whole new twist just to get the spotlight off of the president./sarc


7 posted on 08/26/2006 7:02:43 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody want a peanut.....)
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To: freespirited

Pretty weak. Useless, I'd say.


8 posted on 08/26/2006 7:03:30 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: freespirited
December 26, 1996, 12:30 a.m. bus station in Boulder?

If Karr did arrive in Boulder at that time, by his admission, he was in the Ramsey house until they returned from the party that night. So, that would put Karr in Boulder for roughly 24 hours (5 or more of those hours inside the Ramsey house), plus the airplane or bus trip back to Alabama/Georgia.

Surely, the Karr family would have noticed Karr's absent for around a day-and-a-half during that holiday.

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The Karr story smells, still. Even with this 'revelation'.
9 posted on 08/26/2006 7:06:58 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: John D

At first glance it does seem odd that this man would recall so much after ten years, but there are some things that make it more plausible. He did report it contemporaneously soon after. I was a witness to an incident in Honolulu back in 1986 and I remember all the details I reported to the police. Secondly it did occur on the day after Christmas. It's the same thing that makes me remember exactly what I was doing when I heard about the World Trade Center coming down, and people of a certain age remember what they were doing when Kennedy was shot.


10 posted on 08/26/2006 7:08:49 AM PDT by Burkean
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To: Salvey
Also give us more of Gary Condit/Chandra Levy, Scott Peterson/Amber Frey, OJ Simpson and Michael Jackson. After all, Greta needs to make a living, too.

A few weeks ago, I noticed one of the ET-type tabloid programs advertising new revelations about Marilyn Monroe.

Even 20 years ago, I noticed that the newsies would pull out a 'new' news item on certain persons. It was usually filler for a slow news day. Typical personages for the 'new' news items includes, John F. Kennedy, Marilyn Monroe, Elvis. There were a couple of others that would alternate, but those 3 were the primaries. And most of the 'new' news revelations were not much more than the 'new' news revelation in this article.
11 posted on 08/26/2006 7:12:56 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

Yep, you can take to the bank what you learn from a bus rider.


12 posted on 08/26/2006 7:20:03 AM PDT by voxpop
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To: freespirited

I saw Karr, too. He was in my living room, crowding out more important matters while he lusted after his fifteen minutes.


13 posted on 08/26/2006 7:24:49 AM PDT by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: Salvey

As much as I appreciate FoxNews, sometimes I think late-night Fox is a pale imitation of morning-after Enquirer. Greta: call your voice coach- your voice pitch is really annoying and your show seems more & more like a "filler" for slow news days; find a more intellectually challenging spot for yourself- you have the raw materials for a better format.


14 posted on 08/26/2006 7:29:21 AM PDT by Anselma (Visualize whirled peas.)
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To: freespirited

15 posted on 08/26/2006 7:33:49 AM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: Burkean

lots of people remember details about their personal situation when
they heard that Kennedy wvs shot.

So, I tend to believe you.

with that said,
please inform us,
where were you when you heard about the JonBenet killing?
who else was with you?
what clothes were others wearing?
was any of their clothing stained?


16 posted on 08/26/2006 7:38:27 AM PDT by greasepaint
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To: showme_the_Glory
"Rove contrived this whole new twist just to get the spotlight off of the president./sarc"

You do realize that the DUmmies floated that exact theory when this story broke don't you?

17 posted on 08/26/2006 7:39:45 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: Salvey; GreyFriar
Also give us more of Gary Condit/Chandra Levy, Scott Peterson/Amber Frey, OJ Simpson and Michael Jackson. After all, Greta needs to make a living, too.

It is pathetic what people consider news today. It wouldn' surprise me that more time and attention has been given to this soap epera than 9-11.

I'm waiting for the movie version written and directed by the guy who did Friday The Thirteenth. Does anyone know the release date?

"Captain. Please take me off this case. After 10 years, the cameras and reporters are so annoying."

18 posted on 08/26/2006 7:42:19 AM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: Anselma
As much as I appreciate FoxNews, sometimes I think late-night Fox is a pale imitation of morning-after Enquirer. Greta: call your voice coach- your voice pitch is really annoying and your show seems more & more like a "filler" for slow news days; find a more intellectually challenging spot for yourself- you have the raw materials for a better format.

And she's constantly being brought in on BO and H&C for an effective three hour slot every night.

19 posted on 08/26/2006 7:45:13 AM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: Burkean

And some of us remember what we were doing when news of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was announced on the radio.


20 posted on 08/26/2006 7:45:23 AM PDT by middie
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