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Japanese-American veterans groups attack Watada
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| Aug. 23, 2006
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Posted on 08/25/2006 2:43:32 PM PDT by george76
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posted on
08/25/2006 2:43:33 PM PDT
by
george76
To: george76
"My son is doing the same thing, fighting for the Constitution, fighting to preserve civil liberties," Bob Watada said. "He is standing up for our Constitution and all the principles it stands for."Nice try, pop. I'm sure the Constitution gives a specific out to someone who wants to renege on his oath. Just what Amendment is that, again?
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posted on
08/25/2006 2:46:30 PM PDT
by
hsalaw
To: george76
"My son is doing the same thing, fighting for the Constitution, fighting to preserve civil liberties," Bob Watada said. "He is standing up for our Constitution and all the principles it stands for."
his civil liberties stopped the moment he joined. he's now subject to the UCMJ and should have the book thrown at him (making sure the book is securly affixed to an anvil)..
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posted on
08/25/2006 2:47:26 PM PDT
by
GeorgiaDawg32
(I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info)
To: george76
Put him in the brig, try him. He is refusing a direct order to report to his assignment.
It is just like desertion. Doubly bad, for as a commissioned officer, he has learned different.
To: hsalaw
"It is not for us to question why, but to do and die," said Ron Oba, the president of the 442nd Veteran's Club of Honolulu.
"That addresses the entire Watada case."
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posted on
08/25/2006 2:48:08 PM PDT
by
george76
(Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
To: george76
But Bob Watada, the lieutenant's father, said his son is grateful for the veterans who fought in previous wars and he isn't dishonoring their legacy.That is a matter of opinion. And the opinion of someone who raised a son so poorly interests me not at all.
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posted on
08/25/2006 2:48:09 PM PDT
by
magslinger
(If at first you don't succeed, squeeze, squeeze again.)
To: truth_seeker
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posted on
08/25/2006 2:50:58 PM PDT
by
george76
(Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
To: george76
From what I understand this guy enlisted after the Iraq war began. He knew exactly what he was getting into. I think he went in planning to make a name for himself on the left. After all he'll probably end up with a book deal.
Sort of reminds me of the openly gay guy yesterday who brought the media with him when he tried to enlist, knowing full well that he would be unsuccessful. I truly wish the military would have accepted that guy though, just to see him pee in his pants when they said "welcome to the army!"
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posted on
08/25/2006 2:51:37 PM PDT
by
Republican Red
(Everyone is super stoked on Gore, even if they don't know it)
To: george76
The poor guy is going to experience real "culture shock" and "weather shock" --- going from Hawaii & Washington to Fort Leavenworth, Kansas..
Semper Fi
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posted on
08/25/2006 2:54:11 PM PDT
by
river rat
(You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
To: GeorgiaDawg32
Article 88: Disrespect Towards Officials
Article 94: Mutiny or Sedition
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posted on
08/25/2006 2:55:17 PM PDT
by
george76
(Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
To: river rat
His new home ?
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posted on
08/25/2006 2:56:22 PM PDT
by
george76
(Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
To: hsalaw
I heard a recording of one of his statements on the radio. It was so loaded with leftist garbage that it sounded like it had been written by a college campus commie wearing a Che t-shirt. The recording by itself would buy him an Art. 88 conviction for contempt of the executive branch.
Anybody know his commissioning source?
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posted on
08/25/2006 2:59:40 PM PDT
by
USNBandit
(sarcasm engaged at all times)
To: george76
Aspiring Democrat politician
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posted on
08/25/2006 3:03:47 PM PDT
by
Chuckster
(Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoset)
To: Republican Red
From what I understand this guy enlisted after the Iraq war began. He knew exactly what he was getting into. I think he went in planning to make a name for himself on the left. After all he'll probably end up with a book deal. You're probably spot-on.
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posted on
08/25/2006 3:10:34 PM PDT
by
Riley
(The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
To: george76
Art 94...(1) with intent to usurp or override lawful military authority, refuses, in concert with any other person, to obey orders or otherwise do his duty or creates any violence or disturbance is guilty of mutiny; I think the sticking point on Mutiny would be that he didn't do this in concert with other military members.
He is definitely going down for Art 88 Contempt, 87 Missing Movement, 133 Conduct Unbecoming. I don't know if you can charge him with Failure to Obey a General Order and Missing Movement, although his missing movement was definitely planned.
If the Army really wanted to go after him they would get the Feds to seize his computer and see if there is any hard evidence of this being planned from the time he decided to enter the military. If he entered via OCS and signed after the OIF commenced then we know this stunt was the whole reason for joining. Then you get him for Art. 83 Fraudulent Enlistment, 81 Conspiracy, 107 False Official Statement, and throw in 134 just for fun.
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posted on
08/25/2006 3:17:17 PM PDT
by
USNBandit
(sarcasm engaged at all times)
To: USNBandit
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posted on
08/25/2006 3:19:14 PM PDT
by
DuncanWaring
(The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
To: GeorgiaDawg32
his civil liberties stopped the moment he joined. His civil liberties may have stopped, his Constitutional rights did not.
Of course none of them apply in this case. No right to desert, no right to refuse to go. Heck there's not even any real question of any illegal orders. The Congress authorized the use of force, twice. Once right after 9-11 and again just before we took down Saddam's "forces". So he's just a left winger, from a wing family, trying to score left wing points.
The only question I have is why he ever joined and took a commission in the first place. Just to make such a point?
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posted on
08/25/2006 3:20:27 PM PDT
by
El Gato
To: magslinger; kcvl
"Watada has said he did not apply for status as a conscientious objector because he isn't opposed to war in principle, just the war in Iraq."
ht to kcvl
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posted on
08/25/2006 3:25:02 PM PDT
by
george76
(Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
To: USNBandit
If the Army really wanted to go after him they would get the Feds to seize his computer and see if there is any hard evidence of this being planned from the time he decided to enter the military. Good point. I would also like to know of communications with the aclu, codepinko, moveon, commies-are-us, etc.
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posted on
08/25/2006 3:26:20 PM PDT
by
Jacquerie
(All Muslims are suspect.)
To: USNBandit; CWOJackson
Article 83Fraudulent enlistment, appointment, or separation (he was fully aware of Iraq BEFORE he accepted his appointment).
Article 88Contempt toward officials (an individual charge every time he opens his mouth).
Article 87Missing movement (could only be imposed once his unit leaves and he refuses to go with them).
Article 132Frauds against the United States (he took his oath knowing full well that he could be assigned to Iraq...with no intention of complying).
Article 134Disloyal statements (an additional charge every time he opens his mouth).
Article 134 - (False pretenses, obtaining services under)(again, he knew about the Iraq situation before accepting his appointment).
ht to CWOJackson
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posted on
08/25/2006 3:29:11 PM PDT
by
george76
(Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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