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THE PALESTINIANS LOSE (AGAIN) IRAN, HEZ CRUSH BEST HOPE FOR STATE
The New York Post ^ | August 23, 2006 | Amir Teheri

Posted on 08/23/2006 1:54:09 PM PDT by sr4402

What the Palestinians urgently need is a state of their own based on their national identity. They do not want to destroy Israel, let alone "pull down the American empire," as Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad promises. They do not want to die so that others can play heroics on TV and in their name.

Israeli Premier Ehud Olmert is wrong in putting Ariel Sharon's policy of unilateral withdrawal from the West Bank on hold. For the two-state formula to work, it is imperative for Israel to decide exactly where it wants its frontiers to be drawn. Once it is clear where Israel wants to be, it would be possible to discuss where Palestine could be as a state.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amirteheri; muslimextremists
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Isn't this a bit naive? The, so called, Palestinians, elected Hamas as there leadership, and Hamas first act was to attack Isreal. They beat Hezbollah in kidnapping Isreali Soldiers and firing imported rockets (which nobody asks where the Rockets came from so quickly).

IMHO: I think the two-state formula is now dead. The, so called, Palestinians have rejected there own chance at a state, continually use their own children for suicide bombers against other children, employ kidnapping and use imported weapons to destroy what chance they had of peace.

IMHO, These folks have had their chance and have demonstrated their total corruption. Fooling with them any more is a waste of time. Any more money to these people is a waste of time. Isreal needs to expel the corruption and buffer themselves against their enemies.

What do you think of this two-state idea now?

1 posted on 08/23/2006 1:54:10 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: sr4402
Palestinians... do not want to destroy Israel

He begins the article with a blatant lie.

2 posted on 08/23/2006 1:57:20 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace begins in the womb.)
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To: sr4402
What the Palestinians urgently need is a state of their own based on their national identity.

They have no unique "national identity" being no different than other Arabs from surrounding countries. They already have such a state, it's called Jordan, formerly Trans-Jordan, formerly the Arab/Muslim portion of the British Mandate of Palestine.

3 posted on 08/23/2006 1:57:25 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: sr4402

Israel is always wrong when it doesn't capitualte, according to some people.


4 posted on 08/23/2006 1:57:53 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Bring your press credentials to Qana, for the world's most convincing terrorist street theater.)
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To: El Gato
Jordan doesn't want Palestine in the same way that San Diego doesn't want Tijuana.
5 posted on 08/23/2006 1:59:29 PM PDT by burzum (Despair not! I shall inspire you by charging blindly on!--Minsc, BG2)
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To: sr4402

Baloney. They're all Islamic terrorists who want to destroy Israel and kill all Jews (and Christians).


6 posted on 08/23/2006 2:00:13 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: DoughtyOne

Give the Palestinians Sinai.

Build them a city, teach them how to fish and farm and turn them loose.

Use Euro money to fund it.

Israel takes back the West Bank and Gaza. Better yet, move the UN to Gaza, then level the place.


7 posted on 08/23/2006 2:00:29 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("If you liked what Liberal Leadership did for Israel, you'll LOVE what it can do for America!")
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To: sr4402
They do not want to destroy Israel,

You could have fooled me.

8 posted on 08/23/2006 2:04:24 PM PDT by dirtboy (This tagline has been photoshopped)
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To: El Gato

The Jordanians are Hashemites who want nothing to do with Palestinians. Also, it is inaccurate to say that Palestinians want a homeland. Having a home implies working to maintain it, which is not really their strong suit.


9 posted on 08/23/2006 2:07:00 PM PDT by youngandgungho (If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything)
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To: El Gato

What the Palestinians really need is a nice long time out until they decide to play nicely with others.


10 posted on 08/23/2006 2:08:04 PM PDT by bordergal (John)
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To: sr4402

Op-Ed by Amir Taheri (Iranian)

Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amir_Taheri

Between 1972 and 1979, Taheri was executive editor-in-chief of Kayhan, Iran's main daily newspaper. He has also worked as editor-in-chief of "Jeune Afrique" and Middle East editor for the London Sunday Times, and has written for the Daily Times, The Daily Telegraph, The Guardian, The Daily Mail and other leading British publications.

He has been a columnist for the pan-Arab daily "Asharq Alawsat" and its sister publication Arab News along with International Herald Tribune, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, Newsday, and The Washington Post.

He was also an editorial writer for the German daily Die Welt and has written for Der Spiegel, Die Zeit and Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung in Germany, La Repubblica in Italy, L'Express, Politique Internationale and Le Nouvel Observateur in France, and El Mundo in Spain. He is currently a contributor to the German weekly Focus, the National Review and the New York Post.

Taheri is a commentator for CNN and is frequently interviewed by other media including the BBC and the RFI. He has written several TV documentaries dealing with various issues of the Muslim world....


11 posted on 08/23/2006 2:12:14 PM PDT by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: sr4402
I disagree with Taheri's take on the situation. If the Palestinians were willing to discuss immediate statehood based on recognition of Israel, most Israelis would be happy even now to give up the greater part of the West Bank for genuine peace. The problem is Hamas rejects ANY solution that does NOT lead to the destruction of Israel. How do you even begin to talk to people like that? There's not a chance of a settlement - not in this generation and by embracing Hezbollah and Iran, the Palestinians will again be history's losers.

( No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo!)

12 posted on 08/23/2006 2:12:33 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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"What do you think of this two-state idea now?"
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I thought Israel might succeed when they were in the process of disengaging and building a wall. Now I'm a lot more pessimistic. I don't think they have the will to survive. It won't happen overnight, but without disengagement they will lose because of the demographics.
13 posted on 08/23/2006 2:13:08 PM PDT by wmfights (Psalm : 27)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Give the Palestinians Sinai

Not really an option given that Egypt has been reasonably cooperative in the peace process for return of the Sinai.

A Pallie enclave carved out of the Sunni triangle and west desert of Iraq would be a more viable option if a high enough fence is put around it.

Any Pallie who was a Christian or would otherwise pledge loyalty to Israel would be allowed to remain.

14 posted on 08/23/2006 2:16:17 PM PDT by Vigilanteman
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To: sr4402

Let them have France.


15 posted on 08/23/2006 2:18:07 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: KellyAdmirer

"Let them have France."

Too Late


16 posted on 08/23/2006 2:36:44 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("If you liked what Liberal Leadership did for Israel, you'll LOVE what it can do for America!")
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To: sr4402
What the Palestinians urgently need...

Is to realize their "identity " is based on their own bad judgment and self-deceptions and assimilate quietly into Jordan.

17 posted on 08/23/2006 2:42:27 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: youngandgungho
The Jordanians are Hashemites who want nothing to do with Palestinians.

Wrong. Roughly 2/3 of the population of Jordan is "Palestinian" (whatever that term means, it having been invented very recently). The Jordanian royal family is Hashemite, as are a portion of the population, and I'd agree that they don't want anything to do with the Palestinians since about 1970, when the PLO attempted to take over Jordan.

18 posted on 08/23/2006 2:57:03 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: DoughtyOne
Israel is always wrong when it doesn't capitualte, according to some people.

The Palis don't want a state anyway. They want to drink the blood of the Jews.

19 posted on 08/23/2006 3:07:59 PM PDT by Stepan12 (NY Times: Bush finds cure for cancer; healthcare workers to suffer massive layoffs)
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To: Ancesthntr

The reason Jordan is now 70% Palestinian is because of post-'67 influx and a leisurely lifestyle focused on procreating while on the dole. The 30%, who are the real Jordanians, are less than thrilled about this but it's a bit late for them to complain.


20 posted on 08/23/2006 3:46:00 PM PDT by youngandgungho (If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything)
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