Very interesting...
Posted on 08/23/2006 12:42:16 AM PDT by rdb3
Very interesting...
and yet some how some way its all Bush's, fault lol
oy. i'm rarely made happy when evidence for my convictions comes forth.
bttt
I was recently having a discussion with a NYer who subscribed, not rabidly so, to the "inside job" theory.
I said, "look, you can fit all the explosives you need to take down that building in a semi-trailer or two. What makes you think a well placed jetliner full of explosive fuel couldn't do the same thing?"
The way those buildings came down suggests strongly -- even to a hack like me -- that their demolition was "engineered" -- apparently the left would rather blame Karl Rove than some cave dwellers....with engineering degrees...and tons of money...and intellect animated by evil...
a final comment/question: does anyone besides me think Iran is stalling?
Anyone who doesn't see the ominous parallels between modern day Iran and Germany in about 1939 is either blind or stupid.
L
Or they are trying to provoke Israel and/or the US into taking action so that they can use a nuke in response and say it was self defense.
bttt
either way, if they have these weapons, then they believe they hold all the cards -- because their "ace" is that they are very willing to use them.
a final comment/question: does anyone besides me think Iran is stalling?
Yes, they are. The follow-up question to me is, why?
Well yes and no.
Germany was an industrial power before WWII. It had skilled engineers and heavy industry to build the weapons of war.
Not so with the mad Mullahs.
They don't have the economic base to sustain full scale war very long. They have to import their gas made from their own oil...
Iran is punching way above its weight. That's not to say they can't cause some serious damage. But once the missiles start flying it won't last long. Especially if they manage to set off a nuke somewhere. Then we can't take the risk of them getting off a second one. Total obliteration.
At least that's what I think...
Germany was an economic basket case after WWI. Inflation was running something like 1000% in the mid to late '30s.
It had skilled engineers and heavy industry to build the weapons of war.
Only half right. They had skilled engineers, but one of Hitlers goals in 'annexing' Sudetanland was taking the Czech weapons factories which at the time were the finest in the world.
They don't have the economic base to sustain full scale war very long
The Iran-Iraq war lasted over 8 years.
Especially if they manage to set off a nuke somewhere
Here's hoping that somewhere isn't London or Brussels or New York.
Then we can't take the risk of them getting off a second one
You'r assuming we can prove where the first one came from.
L
Jezebelle raises her hand, "I do! I do!"
Then we can't take the risk of them getting off a second one
You'r assuming we can prove where the first one came from.
The US needs to tell the leadership in Iran and Pakistan that if a nuclear device is exploded in the US or harms US interests, we will assume it comes from them.
We will then turn our attention to the Arabs.
Germany was an economic basket case after WWI. Inflation was running something like 1000% in the mid to late '30s.
We were in the "Great Depression" at about that same time. We were still an industrial power. Take out oil and Iran produces very little. If we were at war, their oil would be going nowhere.
It had skilled engineers and heavy industry to build the weapons of war.
Only half right. They had skilled engineers, but one of Hitlers goals in 'annexing' Sudetanland was taking the Czech weapons factories which at the time were the finest in the world.
Germany may not have had "the finest in the world" but it was obviously more than competitive with most the world. Iran has no neighbors to take over to even get second rate weapons from. Their weapons are no match for ours in all out war.
They don't have the economic base to sustain full scale war very long
The Iran-Iraq war lasted over 8 years.
Two third world countries going after each other with no real means to strike deep in the others country. Not the case with war with the US. Most of their war making industry would be done in the first few weeks, if that long.
Especially if they manage to set off a nuke somewhere
Here's hoping that somewhere isn't London or Brussels or New York.
Or Tel Aviv.
Then we can't take the risk of them getting off a second one
You'r assuming we can prove where the first one came from.
If we are actively at war with them (which is what we're discussing) when a nuke goes off here. There's wouldn't be many other questions asked before we replied. The public would demand no less.
I do not think that their delivery system is where they want it to be yet. I believe that they are getting their ducks in a row and will not make a move, unless forced, until then. I also believe that when they get their ducks in a row, Israel will be the first to know.
Don't forget, this is and will be a bill for Jimmy Carter's administration. We have yet to get the full bill from Bill Clinton's administration. We received some instalments, the attack on the U.S.S. Cole, the embassy bombings, the World Trade Center attack.
I agree with your points.
The Iran-Iraq was the showcase for a certain form of "technology" which we in the West will never use. The Iranian Besiji (the human minesweepers) didn't win the war for them, but that same suicidal animus is what makes them a dangerous (if perverted) enemy today.
We cannot fight suicidal genocidal monsters with words. In the end we will have to revert to 1945 sensibilities.
Russia or China told them not to pull the trigger yet?
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