Posted on 08/22/2006 2:04:20 PM PDT by js1138
ADL Blasts Christian Supremacist TV Special & Book Blaming Darwin For Hitler
New York, NY, August 22, 2006 … The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today blasted a television documentary produced by Christian broadcaster Dr. D. James Kennedy's Coral Ridge Ministries that attempts to link Charles Darwin's theory of evolution to Adolf Hitler and the atrocities of the Holocaust. ADL also denounced Coral Ridge Ministries for misleading Dr. Francis Collins, the director of the National Human Genome Research Institute for the NIH, and wrongfully using him as part of its twisted documentary, "Darwin's Deadly Legacy."
After being contacted by the ADL about his name being used to promote Kennedy's project, Dr. Collins said he is "absolutely appalled by what Coral Ridge Ministries is doing. I had NO knowledge that Coral Ridge Ministries was planning a TV special on Darwin and Hitler, and I find the thesis of Dr. Kennedy's program utterly misguided and inflammatory," he told ADL.
ADL National Director Abraham H. Foxman said in a statement:"This is an outrageous and shoddy attempt by D. James Kennedy to trivialize the horrors of the Holocaust. Hitler did not need Darwin to devise his heinous plan to exterminate the Jewish people. Trivializing the Holocaust comes from either ignorance at best or, at worst, a mendacious attempt to score political points in the culture war on the backs of six million Jewish victims and others who died at the hands of the Nazis.
"It must be remembered that D. James Kennedy is a leader among the distinct group of 'Christian Supremacists' who seek to "reclaim America for Christ" and turn the U.S. into a Christian nation guided by their strange notions of biblical law."
The documentary is scheduled to air this weekend along with the publication of an accompanying book "Evolution's Fatal Fruit: How Darwin's Tree of Life Brought Death to Millions."
A Coral Ridge Ministries press release promoting the documentary says the program "features 14 scholars, scientists, and authors who outline the grim consequences of Darwin's theory of evolution and show how his theory fueled Hitler's ovens."
It is you, not I, who would turn FR into a site that is conservative in name only.
> So you make analogies and then deny that you made them?
What analogy do you refer to? Be specific. Thread's too long to remember every post.
Do you really not understand what I wrote?
He was once an ordained minister. Then he was disfellowshipped and moved to San Francisco to start a new congregation.
That San Francisco congregation was "accumulated" precisely by his socialist propagandizing, socialist propagandizing he did after he lost his ordination, after he was thrown out of his denomination for being an apostate.
And Hitler paraded under the banner of Christianity.
No he didn't. Which "Christian parades" did he march in, under which banners?
He marched in National Socialist parades under the pagan sunwheel symbol he cherished.
And I don't know why you are on about these supposed secret conversations - I don't care about them.
Selective breeding predates Christianity by at least 10,000 years and Darwin by at least 12,000 years. For instance, all dogs are the result of selective breeding, as the original "dogs" were wolves. Not to mention all the various farm animals long since "domesticated" i.e. selectively bred from their wild ancestors. Darwin didn't discover breeding. Humans were well used to doing that since before recorded history. Darwin merely establish the mechanism by which nature itself did selective breeding without the intervention of the human hand.
When one states as a starting point that humankind is the result of impersonal random events, it's pretty hard to square that with "All men are created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights." Maybe Jefferson was right, maybe Darwin was right, but one of them has to be wrong, they outlined mutually contradictory ideas.
While one sympathizes with his personal difficult experiences with "Christians," Foxman has enormous gaps in his education. and is not capable of an intelligent conversation on the subject of Christian theology.
He focuses on the complicated ancestral babblings of Mel Gibson and his demented Dad, and ignores real viiolence and murder done and plotted against Jews. To borrow and re-cast a phrase of Golda Meier: Foxman will become effective when his love for Jews surpasses his bitterness toward Christians.
Fake but accurate is your motto.
Is that an argument or a bumper sticker?
The only significant influence is the background of European state-church anti-semitism. As a consequence, he imbibed the general anti-Jewish attitudes of much of Europe. That's where it ends.
Hitler tried very hard to sever Christianity from its Jewish roots, going so far as to claim that Jesus was not Jewish. His religious imagination was fired by obsession with ancient european paganism mixed with a fascination with Hinduism which he mixed into his own esoteric religion. His vegetarianism extended form his flirtation with Hinduism. Erwin Lutzer's The Twisted Cross is a brief but excellent discussion of Hitlers's religious ideas.
"And that makes many Christians itchy."
Not as itchy as the scientific "memes" make scientists, if this thread is any indication.
Hey, let's ban African Americans, too. After all, most of their "ilk" are liberals.
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Funny how when folks want to say that Darwin and Christianity are compatible, they always they always use the ad hominum and point to someone of note who says it is so.
....But no one ever attempts to construct the argument itself .
If there is a Creator, then He Creates. If we are Endowed by Him, then it is not the result of Darwinian process, which, by definition, is impersonal and without intention. Either Intelligence is seriously involved or Intelligence is not involved. Both at the same time constitutes nonsense.
At least someone here can express a rational opinion. The matter of what Hitler thought in private is not nearly as important as what he said to the public in order to gain and hold power.
I can recall seeing pictures of him surrounded by religious leaders and symbols. I don't recall seeing him surrounded by biology teachers.
The question is not whether he was hypocrite. The question is why nominal Christians responded to his bigotry.
does this refresh your memory.
http://www.ushmm.org/museum/exhibit/online/deadlymedicine/profiles/
one of the 10 profiled in the above link
Dr. Julius Hallervorden
A respected neuro-pathologist and head of the Histopathology Department of the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Brain Research in Berlin, Hallervorden received hundreds of human brains extracted from “euthanasia” victims. Many were children killed at the Brandenburg-Görden clinic where, at least on one occasion, Hallervorden himself removed their brains. He later described these specimens to a colleague as “wonderful material . . . feebleminded, malformations, and early infantile disease.”
[POSTWAR CAREER] After the war Hallervorden held a neurological research position at the Max Planck Institute in Berlin. At the Brain Research Institute in Frankfurt, Hallervorden’s specimens, including brains from the “euthanasia” program, were used for research purposes until 1990, when they were buried in a Munich cemetery.
Alter Kaker's post was a response to PhilipFreneau, not James Kennedy.
The idea --- not invented, but highlighted and made more prominent by Darwin and his successors --- that the human race itself is a product of a process of competition resulting in selection on the one hand, and salutary extinctions on the other, gave fresh inspiration to social Darwinists like Herbert Spencer and Darwin's cousin Sir Francis Galton. Darwin's writings are also prominently cited by racial superiority advocates and eugenicists like Sydney and Beatrice Webb, Bertrand Russell, Oliver Wendell Holmes and Adolf Hitler.
Although he is not responsible for exaggerations and misapplications by his soi-disant disciples, Right and Left, Darwin had persuasive ideas about racial progress; and ideas have consequences.
thank you for your intelligent and open minded post in 547.
I will add that evolution does not deny a god that created the universe or the physical laws that leads to evolution.
Further evolution does not deny that men should have inalienable rights or that they are created equal under the law of the land.
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