A College Freshman History Text on the Stock Market Crash of 1987.

American: A Narrative History | 2004 | George Brown Tindall and David Shi

[mcvey]

Yes and the same type of people are now creating a "poor economy" out of 4.8 % unemployment.

It is all in the spin.

[sauropod]

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[SAJ]

Yes, indeed. And, of course, when there's no market in option X, then one gets to deal with the well-known (cough, choke...) ''settlement committee'', which may or may not have any grasp of reality at any given time, but is utterly guaranteed to have a good deal of self-interest in the settle price. Hope your chap's marks weren't too foul!

Marty Schwartz' book Pit Bull, as well as my own little effort, have some, er, choice comments about various phases of mkt action that day.

[mcvey]

You know, we have used Tindall and Shi off and on for years. I think its the best of its type and keeps me below the radar.

But I can point to numerous places where I do know things and it is wrong and always on the left side of being wrong.

I think some things are so emotional for writers that they let myth get in the way.

[Enchante]

"...multiple, mutually-exclusive explanations for the Great Depression."

Incoherence never stopped a liberal academic - it won't even make most of them pause for breath!! :^)

p.s. Clearly we are all still suffering badly from what "Reaganomics" did to the US economy.

[mcvey]

The odd thing is that what may have been a very technical correction, aided by technology not quite under control, may have actually helped the market.

In any instance, there seems to have been no backing off of foreign investment and no, as you put it, "malevolent" greed.

[mcvey]

Which burns my fanny.

Meese was exonerated and the text is written so that students will believe he is rotting in Sing Sing or some similar place.

[mcvey]

Dear DSD:

Trust me, most of them are worse.

You should read the hatchet job done in Eric Foner's textbook--which I have been able to stave off using.

Here's a little story: we all get to agree on a textbook for history. But our far far leftist wanted something to her taste, so she created an American Studies course so that she could use Zinn's People's History.

[mcvey]

So many of our texts are like that. Ask LS--we see the same mistakes, some times word for word, in text after text. It's dishonest, but it allows professors to eat Brie.

/cynicism

[mcvey]

I may be building a course around historical bias. Which will royally p*ss off my colleagues.

[mcvey]

"Finally, commentators who use any problem in free market-oriented, democratic countries to justify their basically cynical world view are just revealing their prejudices."

Trust me . . . they would be happy to admit that they are prejudiced (for the common good, of course.)

[mcvey]

Paul Johnson is anything but a liberal academic.

His problem here is that he is not particularly an economic historian.

And he is very dependent on his researchers.

But he is the best overall, except for LS--whose textbook my department would NEVER buy.

McVey

[Enchante]

Whoops!! I know that, but I didn't realize LS was referring to Paul Johnson with that comment. Slap me on the head and remind me not to rush through the thread so fast.....

[defenderSD]

Whatever happened to the book on American history by Thomas Bailey (of Stanford, iirc)? That was our US history textbook in high school.

[defenderSD]

Do you teach at a college or a high school or a middle school?

[kalee]

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[LS]

Absolutely. The theory was that part of his deal was secret testimony that nailed Milken.

[LS]

It's my understanding, based on the "Predator's Ball," the inside story of the junk bond era, that Boesky did provide evidence that at least began the conviction of Milken. (What tipped it was that the feds had Milken's brother on some minor charge).

[LS]

But I wasn't referring to a lib---I was talking about Paul Johnson, who has the money supply exploding in the 20s (prices fell, and it never kept up with mfg. growth), then simultaneously blaming the Fed for constricting credit. (He's right there).

[LS]

Actually, at the high school level (not yet exposed at the college level) there is widespread plagiarism, as many of the same bots work on all the texts!