Posted on 08/21/2006 5:51:49 PM PDT by Bob J
Well, now. I don't want to be a nag but it seems to me that there is a very big contradiction here.
If you think Eve merely sinned because she was deceived by Satan but that Adam sinned because he lusted after Eve then I'll let my kids learn from momma and tell poppa to take his testosterone to the cleaners.
Whether you agree or not, most men are no more than rutting animals and are best left to breaking things and killing.
"Anyway, this whole story, in my view, is just that: a way to relate the fall of man."
Agree.
Oh, for heaven's sake, Adam was deceived too! Not directly by the devil, but by the devil through Eve! They were both sinners. That doesn't mean that women should be quiet and listen! Get yourself a better argument! By the way, I was raised Baptist, went to Wheaton College and then became a Catholic after marriage. I never heard any of this stuff in either of those churches.
I'm not a catholic, but I'll guess that the nuns taught under the direction of men. where using material not so necessarily written by men but ok by men. As long as they taught things OK by the Catholic Church then they would be ok.
Indeed. I taught Sunday School for years (and loved it) and cannot remember any male teachers in the program, and it was a large church with a lot of SS students.
When I was a Southern Baptist, our church did have adult Sunday School for men and women. The men taught the men and the women taught the women. Nothing wrong with that.I actually got my feet wet as a teenager teaching an adult ladies Sunday school class, which was a valuable experience.
I agree that women shoudn't be teaching men, but I also think men shouldn't be teaching women.
Titus 2:3-6 Older women likewise are to be reverent in their behavior, not malicious gossips nor enslaved to much wine, teaching what is good, 4 so that they may encourage the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, 5 to be sensible, pure, workers at home, kind, being subject to their own husbands, so that the word of God will not be dishonored.
There are no "facts" in a story about a snake tempting Eve. It is an allegory to illustrate the FACT that man disobeyed God.
Arguing over the details is pointless.
Read Mark 10:6-12.
"But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;
And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.
What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter.
And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.
And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery."
So the question remains. Do Baptists allow divorce and remarriage?
Again, I'm not a baptist. I read there are biblical reasons for divorce and adultry is one.
Depends on which gospel you look at.
Show me a silent woman and I'll be asking "when did she pass away"?
Well, first off these aren't facts. That aside, if some lounge lizard (your serpent) is snaking through the garden and he sees a good looking babe and a grouchy old dude who do you think he is going to nail, eh?
OK, well, whatever.
Can we agree then that in all other cases those who divorce and remarry are committing adultery against their former spouse?
In the Bible I read, Mark 10:11 refers to Matt 5:32.
The pastor's an idiot. Men and women should be able to preach God's word, and that is QUITE biblical. When it comes to matters of the spirit, God does not recognize sex/gender at all.
As a matter of fact, our church received quite a teaching on this very subject just last evening. The speaker's arguments, well supported and IN context by the Bible.....utterly destroyed any contentions to the contrary.
Hi Bob, I was raised a Baptist, and my Church did not ordain women to preach. However, women were allowed to teach. It seems to me that in the scriptures there were women who did teach in the NT. Perhaps because of my background, I would feel uncomfortable with a woman pastor, I certainly have no problem with women teaching men or what ever.
Man or woman, one must have my permission to teach me.
Anyone who automatically assumes they have something to teach me is a fool.
Ask first, teach after.
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