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Those planetary scientists sure are passionate.
1 posted on 08/21/2006 9:44:19 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Well, at least they know what the word "evolution" means. ;)

Words are just symbols, and even in science, where verbal precision is almost as important as in law, some of the most commonly used words have different meaning for different people. Usually the differences are subtle, but they can be subtle as when an airplane on a 4,000 mile journey starts the trip only one degree off course. The results can be dramatically off the mark in the end.


2 posted on 08/21/2006 9:47:55 AM PDT by RobRoy (Islam is more dangerous to the world now that Naziism was in 1937.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
IMHO, the Kuiper Belt objects should not be considered planets, even if they are round.

OTOH, I would keep Pluto on the list due to historical precedence, stare decisis if you will, at least until lay people digest the facts and would feel comfortable dropping Pluto from the list.

4 posted on 08/21/2006 9:55:14 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: SunkenCiv

Planet debate ping!


5 posted on 08/21/2006 9:55:14 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I'm glad that Clyde Tombaugh isn't around to see this happening, though there were hints of this before his death.


6 posted on 08/21/2006 9:55:53 AM PDT by syriacus (Worried about attacks from Iran or Korea? Daschle wanted to scuttle our missile defense program)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets; Pyro7480; annie laurie; garbageseeker; Knitting A Conundrum
Thanks Pyro7480 for the ping, L in M for the topic.

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7 posted on 08/21/2006 9:57:23 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
All hell broke loose today as astronomers began openly debating ...things were OK until someone started a slap fight. Then, another guy got stabbed with a compass, and it was on.
9 posted on 08/21/2006 10:00:45 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I think the self importance of the scientists causes them to over complicate things.

They can't decide if Pluto is a planet so they add Pluto's moon Charon into the mix and call it a potential planet. However that doesn't make the rest of the moons in the solar system planets, only Charon which orbits an object that they can't decide on. To further convolute the issue they add an asteroid (Ceres) into the mix.

Maybe we should add the two Martian moons to the mix. They sure don't look like moons to me, they look like captured asteroids.


10 posted on 08/21/2006 10:00:45 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Name the Pluto-like planets..

Mickey, Minnie, Donald, Goofy, etc..


11 posted on 08/21/2006 10:01:37 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I guess since none of these guys has a chance at going on a date any time soon, they have to expend their energy somewhere.


13 posted on 08/21/2006 10:03:13 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

This debate is the scientific version of "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin." It's an excellent example of how technogeeks of whatever stripe can get wrapped around the axle about minutiae that have no real scientific value. It's all about defending one's own view on the matter.


14 posted on 08/21/2006 10:05:10 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Do you mean these?


16 posted on 08/21/2006 10:08:33 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Does anyone know if any of the asteroids or ort bodies are large enough to be spherical due to their own gravity? This to me seems like a good criteria to separate planets from 'oids. The fact that Pluto orbits the Sun (and not another planet) seems like good criteria to separate it from being a moon (despite it's sixe).

28 posted on 02/16/2005 7:51:58 AM PST by arkham

My opinion on this issue is still the same as it was a year and a half ago. Nice to know the real astronomers are coming around. I agree with others that Charon should be considered a moon, though.

20 posted on 08/21/2006 10:11:35 AM PDT by arkham
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

nothing like a few drooling scientists in a turf war.


28 posted on 08/21/2006 10:25:17 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Pray hard and do the math.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

They need to have the fedex "we are doomed!" guys at that conference.


30 posted on 08/21/2006 10:41:35 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Clyde Tombaugh is rolling in his grave. His niece was my girl scout leader.


40 posted on 08/21/2006 11:13:09 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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