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Israel has right answers on profiling air travelers
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | August 21, 2006

Posted on 08/21/2006 9:39:58 AM PDT by knighthawk

In July 2001, Richard Reid tried to board an El Al flight to Israel. The 28-year-old Briton, who later became known as the "shoe bomber" for trying to ignite explosives in his sneakers on an American Airlines flight from Paris to Miami, was stopped before he could get on the Israeli plane. His answers to routine questions from El Al security officials made them suspicious. He was detained and searched because they determined his behavior was erratic. He fit the profile of a would-be terrorist.

Americans who cherish their civil liberties are reluctant to allow the type of psychological profiling used by the Israelis to be employed at U.S. airports; they are nervous about the balance between personal freedom and public safety. So a security rule has to apply equally. "Here at an airport, my 2-year-old son has to take his shoes off before screening," says Andy David, deputy consul general at the Israeli Consulate in Chicago. "In Israel, he doesn't have to do that. Here there is a huge amount of energy invested in screening populations which pose no threat. A child or an old woman traveling with her husband should be differently screened from everyone else."

David is right. The latest incident of potential airline disaster, the alleged bomb plot in Britain using liquid explosives, necessitates a rethinking of airport security. Searching bags for hair gel and X-raying shoes and handbags don't go far enough. Israeli security has managed to make the airport at Tel Aviv and El Al airline safe by asking passengers simple questions.

"Israeli security agents try to understand who is standing in front of them," says David. Earlier this year, the Transportation Security Administration said it would use more psychological means to uncover terrorists -- but little has been done so far. At Dulles Airport in Washington a few years ago, security agents began to ask passengers questions to determine if they seemed tense or evasive. And those who acted suspiciously were pulled aside. But it didn't always work well. In one case, the national coordinator of the American Civil Liberties Union's Campaign Against Racial Profiling was pulled aside. He is now suing. This doesn't mean, however, the method was flawed; it just means the security agents needed better training. We can't, as David says, treat everyone the same. Grandma isn't the problem.

And simply checking bags isn't good enough anymore. Nor is scanning faces to determine strange behavior. Simple questions -- like "What did you think of the Sox game?" or "How was your trip to the airport?" -- would suffice. Anything to tip off security personnel that the traveler is nervous or has something to hide and should be further investigated. Sometimes civil liberties have to be balanced with the interests of protecting lives.


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airlinesecurity; gwot; israel; terrirism; terrorism
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To: marblehead17

ping


21 posted on 08/21/2006 11:14:55 AM PDT by marblehead17 (I love it when a plan comes together.)
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To: knighthawk
I would start by asking passengers to eat a ham sandwich.
22 posted on 08/21/2006 11:17:03 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: calex59
I'm not sure how driving an automobile and flying on an airplane are unenumerated rights incorporated by reference into a Constitution that was ratified before the invention of either the automobile or the airplane.

Sounds like "living document" hogwash to me, not original intent.

23 posted on 08/21/2006 11:18:01 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: js1138

Well, that disqualifies all observant Jews, and all observant Orthodox Christians for months out of the year and all observant Catholics on certain days.


24 posted on 08/21/2006 11:19:17 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Cecily
Would you support an airline that required a background check in order to be it's customer? Kinda like a private golf club but an airline instead. Of course no Muslims or ACLU lawyers allowed.
25 posted on 08/21/2006 11:21:02 AM PDT by RC51
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To: wideawake
But it slashes by 98 percent the number of people needing further screening. Step two would be to how a page of cartoons of Mohammad and ask which are the funniest.

The ham sandwich test gets most people through quickly. The Mohammad test passes most of the rest.

I am kidding, of course, but if you are going to profile, you might as well make it efficient.
26 posted on 08/21/2006 11:27:49 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: RC51

I guess I would, since I have flown on El Al. I even got a little extra scrunity and screening based on my answer to one of their questions, but the world didn't come to an end.


27 posted on 08/21/2006 11:34:05 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: wideawake
'm not sure how driving an automobile and flying on an airplane are unenumerated rights incorporated by reference into a Constitution that was ratified before the invention of either the automobile or the airplane. Sounds like "living document" hogwash to me, not original intent.

BS, the RIGHT to drive is inherent in our constitution, along with the right to do anything else that insures our happiness and ability to work. If you can't see that, TS, you are just blind to what freedoms our consitition bestows on us.

It has nothing to do with "living document" hogwash as you put it. Your interpretation, and the governments, of driving and flying being a priviledge is the real hogwash and intended to dupe citizens of the US into thinking the government has more control over us then they actually do. Sooner or later people will confront the "priviledge" of driving headon and win. In the mean time slaves of the government, such as yourself, will continue to parrot the government mantra! I suppose everything invented after the constitution was written falls under priviledge in your opinion and idiotic interpretation of the constitution.

28 posted on 08/21/2006 1:21:18 PM PDT by calex59 (Hillary Clinton is dumber than a one eyed monkey with a brain tumor(credit to Harley69))
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To: knighthawk; Alouette
The problem with the El Al model, is that, at least as of March 2002, they had only 30 aircraft and and 90 flights per day. I think that close to that many flights take off from O'Hare alone in an hour. With that few flights, and thus passengers, to screen, they can use more intensive screening techniques, like interviewing each passenger that wouldn't be practical here. With the roughly 25,000 flights (not passengers!) per day taking off in the US, we are going to have to use much cruder screens. I suspect that some combination of profiling for muslim/middle eastern appearing passengers, combined with random checks (recall that that palesimians did use Japanese Red Army and Baader-Meihof thugs) will work best, though nobody from TSA has asked my opinion yet.
29 posted on 08/21/2006 1:40:50 PM PDT by white trash redneck (Everything I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9-11-01.)
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To: calex59
Thanks for the personal insults - clearly you were unable to formulate a logical argument.

I'll reiterate that there is no "right" to drive on someone else's property, no "right" to drive an uninsured vehicle, no "right" to vehicle insurance, no "right" to fly on a plane someone else owns - you presume a large number of imaginary rights.

The only thing you said which rational individuals would recognize as a poor semblance of a child's argument is that we have a right to have our happiness "insured" by which I presume you meant to write "ensured" (and that you weren't actually referring to some mystical insurance contract on happiness).

The Framers were not so unintelligent as to believe that their job was to "ensure" or "insure" happiness.

Perhaps that's why they neglected to mention happiness, fuzzy kittens or warm chocolate cupcakes in the Constitution.

As for your misapprehending comment about technology, the Framers did not argue for an inherent right to drive a coach and six or an inherent right to sail, either. They wisely left such matters to the states to regulate as they saw fit - if they weren't focused on providing special rights for the transportation technology of their day, they certainly weren't contemplating special rights for transportation technologies of the future either, somehow writing in imaginary protections for motorists that they did not write in for horsemen.

30 posted on 08/21/2006 1:46:38 PM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: wideawake

> Well, that disqualifies all observant Jews, and all observant Orthodox Christians for months out of the year and all observant Catholics on certain days.

And all vegans and vegetarians.


31 posted on 08/21/2006 1:53:21 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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To: Alouette; swain_forkbeard; calex59

I think you all have an odd idea of rights.

If the airline doesn't want you to fly, the government can't, and shouldn't make them.

To protect the rest of us, regulations can and should be put into place to prevent homicidal individuals from putting passengers at risk.

If you don't earn a driver's license the state can and should deny you the opportunity to drive.


32 posted on 08/21/2006 2:42:03 PM PDT by From many - one.
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To: white trash redneck
I would have to disagree with you on this. The Israelis put two person teams of people on every line of people moving along the check in lanes. It's quick and in your face. If they get any vibes they do a second round. It is all very impressive and makes you feel safe.
33 posted on 08/21/2006 4:46:40 PM PDT by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: All
Regardless of the specific details of the Israeli passenger screening methods, their track record on airline security is probably the best in the world. I know of no El Al flights that have ever been blown up by terrorists on board. I believe there have been just a few hijackings of El Al flights down through the years, but none in quite some time. This despite the obbious fact that El Al is obviously a prized sabotage target in the Islamofascist way of thinking.

That's why any airline or government agency in the Western world which is seriously interested in maximizing flight security should be studying Israeli procedures carefully and implementing them when at all feasible.

34 posted on 08/21/2006 5:34:29 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: RC51

I know you are trying to be funny, but your first ssuggestion has some real merit to it. Native Arabic speakers represent a high risk group that should be given special attention. Nothing wrong with "ethnic profiling" that concentrates time, attention, and resources in the prospective passenger populations statistically most likely to cause the most trouble.


35 posted on 08/21/2006 5:43:37 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: NC28203

It's a myth that Americans are not willing to undergo questions and waits given the safety risks. The media are the only ones you ever hear saying that the public will not put up with it. They're looking for a story and some controversy where there is none.


36 posted on 08/22/2006 1:44:05 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

Americans are willing to put up with effective security screening by well-trained, high quality, decently paid security personnel a la El Al. What they are not willing to put up with is bogus, incompetent, and pointless "screening" by unmotivated, low quality, not-so-well paid airport personnel.


37 posted on 08/22/2006 7:18:46 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: From many - one.

"I think you all have an odd idea of rights. If the airline doesn't want you to fly, the government can't, and shouldn't make them."


Well, I don't think my ideas are that odd. And you seem to have something reversed. I never suggested that the government (at any level of government) should force airlines to do business with me. What we were talking about was the government, specifically the TSA, PREVENTING the normal conduct of business.


38 posted on 08/22/2006 8:37:36 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

Since just as many seem to be flying as ever, you're probably right.


39 posted on 08/22/2006 1:14:29 PM PDT by From many - one.
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To: swain_forkbeard

It comes under the heading of national defense.

Very few, if any, Chicagoans (for instance) would be happy to have an enemy controlled missle going splat onto Chicago.

Since making airplanes go splat is one of the enemy techiques, the Federal governmant has the Costitutional right and responsibility to prevent it.


40 posted on 08/22/2006 1:18:37 PM PDT by From many - one.
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