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10 Questions for Pat Buchanan (Pat teaches Time Magazine about illegal invasion)
Time Magazine ^ | Aug. 21 06 | Time Mag/Pat Buchanan

Posted on 08/21/2006 9:08:47 AM PDT by churchillbuff

Unapologetically conservative and unfailingly provocative, Pat Buchanan has been firing from the right for most of the past four decades. In his new book, State of Emergency--out this week--the politician and omnipresent pundit confronts what he calls the immigrant "invasion and conquest of America." Buchanan, 67, talked with TIME's Jeff Chu about American identity, why conservatives will lose the culture wars and the rewards of being a cat lover.

The U.S. is in a state of emergency?

If we do not get control of our borders and stop this greatest invasion in history, I see the dissolution of the U.S. and the loss of the American Southwest--culturally and linguistically, not politically--to Mexico. It could become a part of Mexico in the way that Kosovo is now a part of Albania.

You liken the immigrant wave to the Visigoths who sacked Rome. Is that fair?

I'm predicting that America will no longer be one nation but more like the Roman Empire--a conglomerate of races and cultures held together by a regime. The country I grew up in was culturally united, even if it was racially divided. We spoke the same language, had the same faith, laughed at the same comedians. We were one nationality. We're ceasing to be that when you have hundreds of thousands of people who want to retain their own culture, their own language, their own loyalty. What do we have in common that makes us fellow Americans? Is it simply citizenship? Or is it blood, soil, history and heroes?

Your '92 Republican Convention speech put another culture war on the agenda. Who's winning?

It's not a battle of right and left but right and wrong. What do we believe about abortion? What do we believe about gay rights? The left has triumphed in seizing the heights of culture--the media, Hollywood, the academic community--and it's fiercely competitive in the political realm. I don't think someone of Bill Clinton's views could have been elected in, say, 1972. And we wouldn't be debating gay marriage in the 1970s. People would have said, "Are you insane?"

Do you think legal gay marriage is inevitable?

Traditionalists still have the upper hand, but there's no doubt which way the trend is going. And it is not going the conservative way.

Can conservatives win the culture wars?

Those of us on the right have been losing ground since the 1970s and '80s. Can we ultimately win? I think you would need a reconversion of the country to a traditionalist, Christian point of view--and I don't see that coming.

You ran for President three times, most recently in 2000. Will you again?

The American people have spoken on that issue. But I loved campaigning. Everywhere you go, people are saying, "Go, Pat, go!" It's like the NFL play-offs, and you're captain of one of the teams. But as [British politician] Enoch Powell once said, "All political lives end in failure."

How would you rate President Bush?

On some things--the Supreme Court, tax cuts--I give him an A-plus. On foreign policy, I give him an incomplete. If it doesn't improve, it's going to be failure. I don't believe interventionism is the way to deal with rising Islamic revolution. We're seen in the Middle East as an imperial power propping up corrupt regimes and giving Israel the wherewithal to do what they did to Lebanon. The President is widely reviled.

You sound a bit like Cindy Sheehan!

Anybody that knows Pat Buchanan knows we're not dealing with Cindy Sheehan here. [Laughs]

I was surprised to read that the animal-rights group PETA gave you an award last year.

I think it was most improved player! I've always been a cat fan, and my magazine ran a couple of articles saying, "Let's stop cruelty to animals." I've always been disgusted by that, even though I'm not a vegetarian.

I confess I always think Pat Buchanan seems to take things so seriously. What do you do for a laugh?

I read the newspapers. There's so much silliness and nonsense going on.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
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To: churchillbuff

Pat is probably right on this issue, but even a moron can be right from time to time.


21 posted on 08/21/2006 9:25:50 AM PDT by Holden Magroin
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To: COEXERJ145

Buchanan is Catholic. To my knowledge, he is not a racist. Some of his statements regarding Israel have been hostile toward the Jewish state. After a few too many drinks, he may, like Mel Gibson, blame the Jews for all the wars.


22 posted on 08/21/2006 9:27:44 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: churchillbuff
Is Patrick looking wissomely at another presidential run?

LOL.

Truth to Tell, Pat is not a nut, he is simply that voice on the shoulder of the Republican Party, that whispers both nothings and substance into its ear. Nothing much has changed on where he is right or wrong, and of course Time wants to brand all Pubbies as nuts, which is why they ran him.

23 posted on 08/21/2006 9:28:08 AM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: churchillbuff

Also, the influx is putting a strain on our infrastructure.


24 posted on 08/21/2006 9:28:13 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Candor7
Pat's right about this, too:

""It's not a battle of right and left but right and wrong. What do we believe about abortion? What do we believe about gay rights? The left has triumphed in seizing the heights of culture--the media, Hollywood, the academic community--and it's fiercely competitive in the political realm. I don't think someone of Bill Clinton's views could have been elected in, say, 1972. And we wouldn't be debating gay marriage in the 1970s. People would have said, "Are you insane?" ""

25 posted on 08/21/2006 9:29:35 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

"The country I grew up in was culturally united, even if it was racially divided. We spoke the same language, had the same faith, laughed at the same comedians. We were one nationality. We're ceasing to be that when you have hundreds of thousands of people who want to retain their own culture, their own language, their own loyalty. What do we have in common that makes us fellow Americans? Is it simply citizenship?"

This is the real question, how can you exist as a nation state if there is no national identity. Times has changed immigrants no longer gets assimilated. I belive that this will lead to increased political corruption and racial politics.


26 posted on 08/21/2006 9:29:48 AM PDT by cicero106
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Pat Buchanan might be right on this issue, but in general, he's a nut. My head isn't "in the sand" just because I believe Buchanan does more harm than good. If he's really so concerned about our country's survival, perhaps he should support the war on terrorism as much as he supports tighter policies on illegal immigration.


27 posted on 08/21/2006 9:32:09 AM PDT by RebekahT ("Government is not the solution to the problem, government is the problem." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


28 posted on 08/21/2006 9:32:49 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: churchillbuff

American Airlines does the safety presentation on the planes before takeoff in English and Spanish now.

Blew me away when flying to NYC yesterday.

The balkanization of the US continues.


29 posted on 08/21/2006 9:32:50 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: churchillbuff
who hasn't visited Los Angeles in the last 5 years. LA is Tijuana North.

Try 20 years. However, riddle me this: where is some of the most expensive real estate in the US located?

Ever watch the novellas (Mexican soap operas) on the many SoCal TV stations? They portray a lifestyle enjoyed by upper-crust Mexicans.

The pyramid scheme that exists in Latin America is being recreated here. It ain't so bad when you're on the top.

30 posted on 08/21/2006 9:40:56 AM PDT by Chuck Dent
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To: COEXERJ145

here I was, expecting another pat-bot to attack me, and instead I find a highly intellegent person, capable of very rational opinions. You have renewed my faith in free republic.....


31 posted on 08/21/2006 9:42:12 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Israel, taking out the world's trash since 1948.)
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To: churchillbuff
Explain why Californians (and California enclaves in Arizona and Colorado)have an emotional reaction to illegals that people in Texas and New Mexico don't seem to have?

Could it be maybe that the generous welfare state voted in by white Californians shouldn't have been put in place to begin with?

32 posted on 08/21/2006 9:43:05 AM PDT by Clemenza (Now its dark...)
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To: RebekahT

Buchanan does support the WOT. He just doesn't support some aspects of it.


33 posted on 08/21/2006 9:44:06 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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To: Wallace T.

I am a catholic. We support israel, and the jewish people. Pat is no more a catholic than I am a hindu ( sorry to you people of hindu faith, I did not mean to shove pat down your throats )


34 posted on 08/21/2006 9:44:20 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Israel, taking out the world's trash since 1948.)
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To: churchillbuff; wideawake
Calipornia was a socialist state long before the Latinos "took over." Even when you occassionally voted in a Republican governor, you folks still voted in bennies for education, unions, environmental laws, etc.

In other words, while illegals have made the situation worse, it was the palefaces who created to socialist paradise of California years ago.

35 posted on 08/21/2006 9:45:14 AM PDT by Clemenza (Now its dark...)
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To: joe fonebone
"I am a catholic. We support israel, and the jewish people. Pat is no more a catholic than I am a hindu ( sorry to you people of hindu faith, I did not mean to shove pat down your throats )"

By your ignorant statement you embarrass all Catholics.
If your faith leads you to make emotional, fact-less attacks on other people, your faith is not Catholicism.
36 posted on 08/21/2006 9:49:54 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: joe fonebone; RebekahT

Both wrong. Pat is neither a nut or a moron. He's a very intelligent fellow, who lets his isolationism and dislike of Zionism lead him astray at times.


37 posted on 08/21/2006 9:50:12 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: beaversmom
This site is becoming a place for nutjobs - yea,the kind that if you don't follow GW hook, line & sinker - if you don't drink the pubbie kool-aid 100% you are castigated. I hope some of you see the parallel between this & the nutjobs at DU. (Whether some of you know this or not Iraq can go either way & it appears that this struggle is yrs away from an outcome). GW & this borders situation is the thing that is close to an impeachment. If our comander-in-chief won't provide a defense from an invasion & basically supports this, then maybe you kool-aid drinkers should take a look in the mirror. (I'll admit that the other faction of this cartel is IMO an enemy but that doesn't exempt this administration from criticism).
38 posted on 08/21/2006 9:51:30 AM PDT by Digger
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To: Prokopton

???????????????????????please explain your remark...


39 posted on 08/21/2006 9:52:07 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Israel, taking out the world's trash since 1948.)
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To: churchillbuff
What do we have in common that makes us fellow Americans? Is it simply citizenship? Or is it blood, soil, history and heroes?

The "Blood and soil" slogan has already been used. Blut und Boden

40 posted on 08/21/2006 9:53:02 AM PDT by omega4412 (Multiculturalism kills. 9/11, Beslan, Madrid, London)
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