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To: onyx; anita

LOL! You should call him your "very observant" little brother.

This lineup stinks. I think I'd rather do laundry.

I'll simply paraphrase what I posted on another thread this morning:
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I'm sick of hearing Bush/Rice were 'the biggest losers" in the U.N. ceasefire deal. If the GOP had an effective PR machine, the losers would be John Kerry, Howard Dean, the MSM and every liberal who has endlessly demanded a multilateral, peace-at-all-costs approach to the war on terror.

The RNC and all Republicans should be shouting from the rooftops that the U.N.'s and France's perfidy and fecklessness are a total repudiation of everything the libs have demanded since 9/11. (They could start with this morning's talk shows.)

This deal encapsulated every liberal prescription:
--U.N. approval
--rely on allies
--let diplomacy work
--don't rattle sabers
--win hearts and minds
--Geneva Conventions trump all

Now it's clear what comes from such pipedreams. The U.N. and France proved beyond doubt that their "word" is worthless, they can't be counted on in a crisis, and they have nothing to contribute in an actual war. Hearts and minds in the ME belong to the "strong horse". Diplomacy only works when an enemy fears the consequences of its aggression. Their toothless prescriptions have hastened the death of the U.N. and Geneva Conventions they purport to worship.

Saber rattling works only when everyone assumes you'll actually employ the saber. [Better yet, when---like Indiana Jones---you casually shoot the sword-swirling thug before he knows what's happening. Preemption, anyone?]

We have a long way to go in this war. Right now there is an opportunity to shorten that time by pointing out the total vacuousness of the liberals' prescriptions for "peace".


39 posted on 08/20/2006 6:09:15 AM PDT by Timeout (I hate MediaCrats!)
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To: Timeout

Nicely put, Timeout. I heard Benjamin Nethanyahu on BBC Hardtalk paising our President.


51 posted on 08/20/2006 6:18:54 AM PDT by anita
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To: Timeout


What you said BUMP!


73 posted on 08/20/2006 6:34:46 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: Timeout
I'm sick of hearing Bush/Rice were 'the biggest losers" in the U.N. ceasefire deal. If the GOP had an effective PR machine,

Therein lies the problem, however. And it has been an ongoing problem for the Bush 2 Presidency. Team Clinton got out in front of every issue. Team Bush has had to be dragged into defending his policies and decisions again and again; but by then, the perceptions have been cemented in the public's mind.

That big if has been posed and discussed many times in many threads on FR. Many have wondered why it existed. Even the current Press Sec tsk-ed in wonderment in his previous talk-show-host life at the Administration's lack of PR. It has improved some, but it is still woefully lacking.
111 posted on 08/20/2006 6:52:23 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Timeout
I'm sick of hearing Bush/Rice were 'the biggest losers" in the U.N. ceasefire deal. If the GOP had an effective PR machine, the losers would be John Kerry, Howard Dean, the MSM and every liberal who has endlessly demanded a multilateral, peace-at-all-costs approach to the war on terror.

While I agree with you from 30,000 feet I disagree with you at ground level. John Kerry and Howard Dean are not in charge of the United States and it's foreign policy, thank God.   President Bush and Sec. Rice are in charge.  They agreed to this screwball deal, a deal that is turning out exactly as predicted. Heck, this wasn't even a prediction, it was more common sense it would turn out this way.

You say: "The U.N. and France proved beyond doubt that their "word" is worthless."  I agree with you 100%, then squared.

If you are claiming that the President was swayed by the liberal, UN, French thinking pantywaists of the world into accepting this deal, who's fault is that?  A President can't accept a dumb deal that puts Israel at risk in the short run and puts civilization in the balance in the long run just so you can later blow raspberries at the left and say "na, na, na, na, na ... told you so!"


249 posted on 08/20/2006 8:44:10 AM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.)
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