Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 20 August 2006

Various big media television networks ^ | 20 August 2006 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Alas Babylon!]

p>The Talk Shows

Sunday, August 20th, 2006

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., and Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y.; airport security consultant Rafi Ron; Rand Beers, former presidential counterterrorism adviser; Washington Nationals co-owner Mark Lerner.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.; British Home Secretary John Reid; Spike Lee, director of the documentary "When the Levees Broke."

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Sens. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., and Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.; Iraqi Industry Minister Fawzi al-Hariri.

[Phsstpok]

Babah posted 

John Kerry says Lieberman is out of step with the dems in Conn. I guess we'll see come November.

and TomGuy replied

If Lieberman does win, he has said he will vote with the Dem caucus. So, all this race proves is the inability of the GOP to capitalize on a split Democrat party in CT. It is still a win-win for the Dems. Lieberman is liberal on almost every issue, except the WoT.

There are more independent voters in Connecticut than either Democrats or Republicans.  I think I heard that they outnumber the two parties combined.

To me a Lieberman victory is a loss for MoveON.ORG and their allies and not significant for the Republicans, except to point out that the Republicans are virtually nonexistent in Connecticut. 

[HawaiianGecko]

Watch him win, and watch Freeper opinion turn around by this time in 2008.

I agree with you. CFR left a bad taste in my mouth, but I'm not a one issue person. Many say McCain is a RINO because of CFR and  Tancredo is a true conservative because of the border issue, but look at their record and positions.  Personally I think too many people are single issue oriented.

Tom Tancredo is a Moderate Conservative.
Click here for explanation of political philosophy.

John McCain is a Moderate Conservative.
Click here for explanation of political philosophy.

 

 

[A.Hun]

Thanks rodguy, and I considered every point you mention when I wrote it.

I nearly always give the President the benefit of the doubt in all policies, but conservatives are being swamped by the opposition rhetoric. The wild rhetoric of the left is constantly replayed, while the sensible rhetoric of the right is ignored. I would like to see some inflammatory rhetoric from the White House.

I am sick of negotiating with b*stards. We should only spend time negotiating where there is a chance of progress.

The status quo with Iran is going to allow them to get nuclear weapons. Diplomacy has been exhausted unless Iran does a 180. Just as Bush forced Saddam into a corner with troops ringing him, he will have to force Nutjob's hand.

On immigration, I have wanted a complete solution, but that is not going to happen. Once again, we cannot allow the status quo, which means nothing gets done.

Thanks for your critique.

[headstamp]

McCain would get TV time ONLY as long as he was toeing the MSM line. Go over that line and he would have to use 2 cans with a string between them to talk to the American people.

As you say, the President has a weekly radio address.

[rodguy911]

Wow you just ruined my day.

McCain has proven he is not friend of the GOP but only McCain time and again. Why would any of us support him over a Rudy or most any other pubbie that runs?

He may be viable and might even win but McCain emulates most everything we don't like here at FR.

[evad]

To me a Lieberman victory is a loss for MoveON.ORG and their allies and not significant for the Republicans, except to point out that the Republicans are virtually nonexistent in Connecticut.

Indeed...and considering the numbers game in the Senate, it give the RATs one less number towards majority.

It's not as good as having an "R" but it's better than having a "D".

[rodguy911]

Great post here Starwise, you are correct there are no coincidences!

[zook]

Step off. You know what I meant. First of all, I don't really believe McCain is a loose cannon. If he is, at times, then it ain't necessarily bad. It keeps our enemies guessing. What's more, you left off the second part of my cannon comment, that a firing cannon is better than one sitting quiet. There is no other potential candidate out there, other maybe than Rudy, who I trust to actually fire the damned cannon.

[TomGuy]

I totally agree. I only wished to point out that Kerry doesn't know what he is talking about, as usual.

JohnnyK can still say nothing in 5,000 words or more.

lol.

[Bahbah]

a Lieberman victory is a loss for MoveON.ORG and their allies and not significant for the Republicans

Agreed. I fully intend to visit DU and Kos when Lieberman's victory is announced purely for my amusement.

[Phsstpok]

I have read that the White House has started putting out fast responses via email to misinformation in the press. I wonder if there's a way for us to subscribe to that and start posting them here?

I'm pinging Tony as his account still seems active and he may have someone monitoring it.

[zook]

If McCain were only looking out for himself, he would not have taken the unpopular positions he has, especially on the WOT.

He may be wrong sometimes, he may get angry and fly off the handle a bit. But he'll look out for the national security of this country like no other potential *viable* candidate, other perhaps than Rudy.

[TomGuy]

I have the Text Size Toolbar extension installed for Firefox. It puts convenient icons on the toolbar to increase and decrease font sizes.

https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/472/

[rockrr]

And that's where the rubber meets the road.

Often times politicos will speak inarticulately or in-artfully on a subject (or a poor comment nestled in the course of a wide-ranging interview), providing fodder for opportunists to slam or sabotage him.

Where I saw this in play was with the ports issue earlier this spring. I thought King's opinion about the impending port deal was chicken little-esque. And I saw more than a few trash him because of it. But I stepped back and looked at his comments in context to his constituents. I still don't agree, but I do understand his position.

On other issues I have found his opinion echoing mine frequently (and his voting record speaks for itself!).

Now I need to go look up Chuckie Hagel's voting record ;'}

[Bahbah]

I liked the letter, Hun, as well as rod's response. The big picture that I take from it is that we are really in need of some plain speaking and some bold moves from Dubya. His foes and his phony friends have tried to pin him down at every turn, on judges, on fighting the war, on foreign policy, etc. The base is sorely in need of some action.

[E.G.C.]

BTTT

[Phsstpok]

Step off.  You know what I meant.

No, you completely messed up the meaning of a well known phrase in common english discourse in use for centuries.  Words matter.

First of all, I don't really believe McCain is a loose cannon.

Then don't use that phrase to describe him, particularly saying that loose cannons that are firing are good things.  It's silly and completely reverses the point you are apparently trying to make.

If he is, at times, then it ain't necessarily bad.

Again, a loose cannon is a bad thing.  It's like a bundle of dynamite with a lit fuse loose on the floor of a rolling ship.  Odds are it won't have a good outcome.

It keeps our enemies guessing. What's more, you left off the second part of my cannon comment, that a firing cannon is better than one sitting quiet. There is no other potential candidate out there, other maybe than Rudy, who I trust to actually fire the damned cannon.

What you want to say is that he's unpredictable.  That's a totally different argument that was confused and even contradicted by the phrase you chose.  Unpredictability is a good thing in some circumstances, particularly conflict.  I however don't view him this way.  I think he's very predictable.  He will always do what advances John McCain, screw the Constitution, screw the nation and particularly screw the people.

[patj]

8 reporters assigned to Hillary? I guess she's going to get some good press. Must be nice to be a liberal candidate and get all the free coverage.

[Mo1]

* would speak every two weeks to the American people. [besides every week on MTP & Hardball].

Oh great ... he's a Jimmy Carter wannabe

[rodguy911]

My pleasure.

the wild rhetoric of the left is constantly replayed

Many of us share your frustration. Truth is we are still short in the Senate several votes of getting a bullet proof Senate and even then we have the rino contingent there to act as spoilers.

There are so many issues I agree with you on and desperately want but am forced to settle for what is doable and what is not.

The MSM is a true disaster. But think about it. We have and are making remarkable progress in turning all that around. Talk radio numbers(Rush has 14,million listeners, MTP about 3 million) far out doing anything the MSM could ever dream of.

For example MTP the standard bearer of political discourse here every Sunday has dropped almost a million listeners over the past year alone, people are not stupid. The New Media is slowly taking over.

Fast enough for me? Hell no! But I do all I can, you do all you can and together with the many sites on the web talk radio, and a few newspapers and t.v nets that get it we are having a huge impact!It just doesn't happen (like the war in Iraq)over night.